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    On the plus side, curing Szark of his demon possession issue has allowed for Szark's character to become a meme here.

    It's small comfort for the rapes, but it's what we can get.
    Do you think that might be why he had a crush on him after being possessed?

    ...

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    And the truth comes out.
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    Do you think that might be why he had a crush on him after being possessed?

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    Ba-hahahaha! Oh god, that's horrible! Especially because it's canonically true!
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    Urgh, Iīm still looking for a character that isnīt drowning in drama in this comic. I donīt think thereīs any char like that. The characters below 3rd caste donīt live long enough to even have a past.
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    Damn, everyone's flashing back all over the place in this arc.

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    At least this strip handles the flashing back well and presents an issue a human living in orc society would have. Almost like Mookie thought about it for a moment.


    Yeah, ahorro fits better with monetary savings, so salvador fits the bill better. Disappointing that the word for Orc is so similar, but it makes sense given the fact that it's basically a coined term.

    For fun, I ran it into a dictionary and found:

    Orc (s.) [orc]
    Orca, orco, especie de cetáceo

    So, yeah, it seems to think Orc refers to orca and translates from there.
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    Salvadorc.

    You know, the older strips are strange. The art is less refined (it hurts to say this) but they're more lively. You can tell he was enjoying it, and they show signs of potential improvement.
    When the Deegans are called out, it feels strange. There was a point where villains had a degree of depth beyond cartoonish supervillainy and the heroes weren't always portrayed as being perfect.

    It also seems like more things can be done, more lively. The 8-panel layout and samey faces are so boring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillith View Post
    Urgh, Iīm still looking for a character that isnīt drowning in drama in this comic. I donīt think thereīs any char like that. The characters below 3rd caste donīt live long enough to even have a past.
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    Spark? Quilt?
    Quilt is stitched up from death peoples parts. Created for the goal of being a mindless slave.

    Besides the fact that Sparks as a sentient being got castrated, there used to be a cast page that stated he was the only talking cat of his litter and had a horrible life until he met his savior Dominic.

    So sadly even these two happy go lucky characters have been tainted by drama. Either on screen or off screen.
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    Urgh, Iīm still looking for a character that isnīt drowning in drama in this comic. I donīt think thereīs any char like that. The characters below 3rd caste donīt live long enough to even have a past.
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    Heyall,

    At least there can't be too many flashbacks in this arc. There are only four named characters and we've already gone through Bulgak. Of course, Bulgak's didn't reveal anything we didn't already know, except that he disfigured his own brother.

    I thought this arc was going to be about evil people doing evil things to each other. Right now it's more like evil people having flashbacks explaining why they became evil.

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    Quick, someone email Mookie and suggest "FlashBack to the Future" as this arc name!

    Also he promised us splatterfest, and I have yet to see a true splatterfest. Certainly not up to his old standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillith View Post
    Quilt is stitched up from dead people's parts. Created for the goal of being a mindless slave.
    Yes, but he's had no real drama in his actual life.

    Bort?
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    YES. THERE ALWAYS IS."

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    Heyall,

    Quote Originally Posted by Thufir View Post
    Yes, but he's had no real drama in his actual life.

    Bort?
    Well, Bort's probably an orphan -- I doubt Mongrelfolk have long life expectancies since they live in Wackyland -- sorry, the Wild Edge.

    Normally, being hunted by poachers would count as drama. The way it was presented in the last arc is a lot of things, but dramatic isn't one of them.

    Quilt's life is remarkably angst free given his horrific origins and the fact that he's a freaking patchwork corpse golem. Barthis is a remarkably tolerant city considering -- he'd probably be stoned to death in any other city in the ridiculously racist Callan. Unless Callanians have less of a problem with necromantic abominations than they do with Orcs.

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    Callanians don't discriminate; they hate everyone equally, especially other Callanians
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    Quotestorm before I get to reviewing the entire arc called Hello Nurse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trazoi View Post
    Wow, I remember posting almost exactly the same points in response to an argument about a later event (the one SaintRidley is hinting at) arguing that this was Dom's Moral Event Horizon. You're going to love that - it makes what Dom did to Szark look as pure as driven snow.

    This makes me feel nostalgic for back when stuff actually happened in this comic.
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    On all three accounts.
    So I should relish this slightly grey slushy mess of a story because later on it becomes encrusted with filth?
    Great.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deme View Post
    You know, I consider what happened in the infamous strip to be rape for both parties (that is, I consider both parties to have been raped, but by different people. The rapist got raped by the people who basically forced him into it, in my opinion. I don't think he had much of a real choice that he had the power to make.) so let's add that addition to the list of "Rape that doesn't matter at all."

    ...Mookie sure writes about rape. A lot. Rape or attempted rape of some sort is the second most common crime in the Dominion by my count, after murder. Unless we count jockery and racism, which are particularly heinous Dominion crimes.
    You know what?
    I'm going to start an Attempted Rape count too. It was involve mental/physical rape and posession.
    I think I miscounted yesterday though.
    Luna: one. Bumper-on-Luna.
    Bumper: two. Brainwashed by Lady Amelia. Forced to try to rape Luna.
    Szark: three. Karnak - bodily posession; Karnak - mental; Dominus - invades Szark's mind and then removes part of his personality/soul/psyche.

    Attempted Rape Count: six.

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    And later on the mind rape gets even more blatantly mind rape-y. Fun fun fun.
    *ka-splodes*
    How can it get any more blatant?

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    Yes, he has.
    I like Venus. He's interesting, and the points he's brought up could be good plots later on.
    I hope Venus comes back.

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    Still, I have trouble believing that a city that seems entirely built upon the sex industry (see skank-cops, jellybean shape, friggin' name of the city, etc.) would not have had a guild for sex workers until Luna's sister entered the picture. That's like going to shoe city, international capital of shoe making, where everything is shaped like a shoe, and being told that cobblers and cordwainers don't have a guild here, no sir!
    That occurred to me too, but I was outraged, so I forgot.
    I'd also like to know how a pleasure city can exist in Callan and not get burned to the ground by the Royal Knights of Callan. Siggy, for all his faults, does have high moral standards, and seems to care about the non-magical people of Callan.
    How many laws must Porno the City break simply by existing?
    It's impossible for there to be a sex city and not have a Guild of Seamstresses.

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    Man, dangling spoilers like this is a lot more fun than reading about backstory-we-already-know

    EDIT: More seriously, keep an eye on Celesto. He speaks like a Snarker - pointing out Dominic's What The Hell Hero moments and generally calling Dominic on his douchebaggery. Yet, if Mookie actually realized the Unfortunate Implications of his writing, he wouldn't be writing the story like he does. So who is writing Celesto's dialogue?
    You are all loving this. Nothing like torturing myself for the entertainment of others. It's a sadistic pleasure.

    I'll remember to keep an eye on Venus. Perhaps he's meant to represent the actions of a normal person reacting to the activities and actions of people native to the Dominiverse.

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    Oh man, It's been so long, I forgot characters in DD used to have more than one dimension. Watching Kurly reads the strips does prove something to me though, that there was indeed a point where the strips were better and it's not nostalgic whitewashing that makes me believe the comic really has fallen to terrible levels. Sometimes I wonder if it was ever possible for me to have liked it.
    These are multi-dimensional characters? They're 3D I suppose, excepting Luna, but they're hardly fully realised.
    And every time someone makes a comment about this being the good stuff makes me whither a little inside.

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    Also, on the terrible event on the horizon for Kurly, having though about it recently, I realize that it could have been done well. Dominic Deegan was certainly not the place for it, but people dealing with the outcome of such an openly misogynistic tradition could have been a really powerful story. But the interspersed lightheartedness and jokes just kill it. In addition to everyone's reactions being solely the cause of demons, and not legitimate feelings when confronted with what had transpired. If it had been a novel, it could probably have been good. Why anyone would think a serialized webcomic would be the place for it though...
    Mookie has good concepts, but he fails in the execution. Taking each arc in isolation would probably show a competent understanding of characterisation and plot. As an eight-year long webcomic, perhap with an over-arching plot; the characterisation here bounces around wildly and even individual arcs have massive problems within them.
    Grrr.
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    He did. Once.

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    Do you think that might be why he had a crush on him after being possessed?

    ...

    OH GOD
    That makes way too -

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    Ba-hahahaha! Oh god, that's horrible! Especially because it's canonically true!
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    Urgh, Iīm still looking for a character that isnīt drowning in drama in this comic. I donīt think thereīs any char like that. The characters below 3rd caste donīt live long enough to even have a past.
    Lady Amelia Sturtz nee Travoria didn't have a dramatic past. I lie.
    Her little sister has tusks. This iustifies her conspiring to murder a dozen noblemen for money to hire an assassin to murder her sister. And to frame an innocent man in order to kill her husband. And nearly getting her sister raped.

    Dead Lady Travoria had a dramatic past too. She had a tusky baby, murdered her husband and then mentally and emotionally abused Luna until she was able to get a marriage contract to Lord Siggy.

    Mama Machina has a dramtic past. Human Karnak loved her, but she didn't love him, so he sold his soul, to become a demon. (You have no idea how it was to not quote The Little Mermaid there)

    Rachel doesn't have a dramatic past!

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    Salvadorc.

    You know, the older strips are strange. The art is less refined (it hurts to say this) but they're more lively. You can tell he was enjoying it, and they show signs of potential improvement.
    When the Deegans are called out, it feels strange. There was a point where villains had a degree of depth beyond cartoonish supervillainy and the heroes weren't always portrayed as being perfect.

    It also seems like more things can be done, more lively. The 8-panel layout and samey faces are so boring.
    If nothing else, something is always going on, even in the filler stuff.

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    I do feel sorry for you, Curly. Largely because where you are, you ain't seen nothin' yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CurlyKitGirl View Post
    *ka-splodes*
    How can it get any more blatant?
    Well, way into the future, he mind-rapes this one girl and it involves dredging up some of her most personal and embarrassing thoughts and memories and showing them to her just to prove he has power over her.

    So yeah.


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    Rachel doesn't have a dramatic past!
    Apart from when she raped Dominic.

    And the strangely childlike tears she sheds when the Slaughterball Team calls her a "dyke" always made me wonder if there was something about that word that particularly upset her even when coming from an idiot that was about to get his arm broken.

    Maybe I'm reading too deeply into the second one - any other author might have made something from it - but the former is absolutely canon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by averagejoe View Post
    Well, way into the future, he mind-rapes this one girl and it involves dredging up some of her most personal and embarrassing thoughts and memories and showing them to her just to prove he has power over her.

    So yeah.
    He also psychically spies on a corrupt businessman and, illegally, performs a Judge Dredd-esque interrogation and assault. Not that whats-his-face was so awesome or justified, but Dom's in no legal or moral position to punish him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by averagejoe View Post
    Well, way into the future, he mind-rapes this one girl and it involves dredging up some of her most personal and embarrassing thoughts and memories and showing them to her just to prove he has power over her.

    So yeah.
    Also a particular strip in that scene where you would honestly have to be a complete disturbed wreck of a person to not complain about here. It is that bad. It goes beyond campness, ineptitude and unfortunate implications.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wraith View Post
    And the strangely childlike tears she sheds when the Slaughterball Team calls her a "dyke" always made me wonder if there was something about that word that particularly upset her even when coming from an idiot that was about to get his arm broken.

    Maybe I'm reading too deeply into the second one - any other author might have made something from it - but the former is absolutely canon.
    I think you are. I mean, I can completely follow your analysis, and I think you might've been on to something... but this is Mookie. Subtle storytelling is not exactly his... forte.
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    Man, today's strip is like one of these "joke" videos where you watch someone eat. Just eat. Nothing else, just eating. Is that how he gets the powers of his enemies? Everytime he shows up he's eating something or -one.

    And i find that highly aggravating. Especially with a face malformed like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domochevsky View Post
    Man, today's strip is like one of these "joke" videos where you watch someone eat. Just eat. Nothing else, just eating. Is that how he gets the powers of his enemies? Everytime he shows up he's eating something or -one.

    And i find that highly aggravating. Especially with a face malformed like that.
    Not sure if it helps or makes things worse, but it's a conscious decision on Mookie's part:

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    I realized that since Karnak's reappearance in this story he hasn't been eating anyone. The only time he hasn't been chomping down on demon flesh was his brief appearance in THE SHADOW OF SIEGFRIED, but even then I'm pretty sure he was thinking about it.
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    Analysing Dominus Deegan

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    21/05/2002 - 17/07/2002 Arcs covered: Oracle for Hire, The Curse
    The First Signs of Serious Psychological Issues Appear
    18/07/2002 - 4/12/2002 Arcs covered: The Curse, Luna, Into the Woods
    In Which Teh Great Dominus Indulges in Torture and Terrifies Me
    5/12/2002 - 21/02/2003 Arcs covered: Into the Woods, Couch Forts and Crying
    Dominatrix Luna. Oh, and The Dominus is More Feared Than A Necromancer
    22/01/2003 - 11/03/2003 Arcs covered: Makeover!, Mob Mentality
    Thing Are Looking Up
    12/03/2003 - 30/04/2003 Arcs covered: Visions of Doom Parts One and Two
    Siggy Is Iesus. Make of That What You Will
    01/05/2003 -23/06/2003 Arcs covered: Visions of Doom Parts Three and Four
    The Great Dominus Is Officially A Marty Stue an It's THRILLER! THRILLER NIGHT!
    24/06/2003 - 19/08/2003 Arcs covered: Visions of Doom Parts Five and Six
    Character Development! And We Conclude an Arc
    20/08/2003 - 10/09/2003 Arcs covered: Visions of Doom Parts Seven and Eight
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    11/09/2003 - 21/10/2003 Arcs covered: The Party

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    23/10/2003 - 20/11/2003 Arcs covered: The Ecstasy and the Evil Part One
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    11/11/2003 - 16/12/2003 Arcs covered: The Ecstasy and the Evil Parts Two and Three
    Inflatable Boobs and Sex! Occasional Plotting Is Permitted
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    Gregory's a teenaged boy. And Mama Machina was told in the previous comic about her students being slaughtered like animals and yet "there's no reason to rush".
    I don't know about your teachers, but I think if that happened, they woul be pretty heartbroken and anguished. Not smiling, listening to your youngest's love life and taking a week to get back to their own school to console the rest of their pupils and staff; arrange for counselling; funerals; contacting the parents of the deceased. A lot of stuff. And as the Headmistress of a prestigious (I'm assuming here, but an Archmage of the Fifth Circle should be fairly important) magic school she should be pretty damned worried. For all I know there are international students and children of Important People there.
    Mama Machina's school needs her. And she's taking a week long caravanning holiday. Mama Machina is the most heartless human I've seen so far in DD. Dead Lady Travoria cared about her daughters (except Luna) and Lady Amelia cared about her fellow whores. Mama Machina cares for noone but the Dominus. Heartless wench.
    Furthermore, the framing device for this arc is immediately suspect. The Dominus says "Let me tell you the news about Gregory", so I'm assuming that the Dominus is telling the events of Barthis, but this isn't a flashback arc. I hope. It'd better not be, it lasts three months. The entirety of VoD lasted six months! TEatE was seven months!
    So, seeing as this arc is set up as a narrative within a narrative to pass the time involved in travelling to Quiral; what's happening. Narrative-wise. This is an okay set-up, but unless the Dominus is narrating everything as he sees it, this is a false, and shoddy set-up. Even as a cut-away it fails as the continuing Dominus narration makes it seem as if it's from the POV of the Dominus. One page into the arc and I'm already confused about who's meant to be narrating it, and what's happening. Because it looks like it's going to be a framing device, but I get the feeling it's a clumsy segue into Gregory's activities while PornoSin City is going on.
    Ooh, hey, ominous voice, dark, hooded necromancer robe? A familiar voice? A shocked and terrified expression on Gregory's face?
    Iacob . . ?
    The arc is looking up.
    Rachel. Never mind. ANd a bad pun. However, I do like how Gregory and Rachel interact, so it's still a plus.
    Cripes. Sex. No! No! I don't wanna go back to ErogeSin City! Don't make me go back there. Please.
    Oh thank every god you'd care to name! It's a rehash of the Makeover! arc. No sexual fetishes.
    Pam looks really pretty. And given Rachel's dialogue I can see why Pam looks sad. However, obvious cutaway panel contains obvious information about who Gregory will eventually date.
    Fantastic Four shout out. Stupid outfit. The comic loses a point for referencing a sucky comic film.
    Generic athletic team is generic. And so misogynistic it makes Stunt look like a feminist. For the record, I absolutely despise people using the words "dyke" or "fag" as derogatory terms for those who prefer the other gender. Will the latter be used as well? Because I don't know the names of these two people, but they're ierkwads. I hope they get hurt. Not to mention that they focus immediately on her breasts. This isn't looking up for them.
    I want Blond Spikes to suffer, painfully. By the way, we're two-for-two! Hate hate hate hate hate sexist ierkwad annoying misogynistic twits. Are they the designated villains of the arc?
    Because we went from Evil Necromancer to Evil Demon-Posessed Posse of Mass Murderers, to an American Football team?
    Gregory has lame villains. Remember when DD had interesting villains? That was only one month ago!
    Why do they even think Rachel is a lesbian? Because she's tall. Oh, because they obiectify all women as they're walking boobs.
    Mate. Taggerty. Mate.
    You're in Barthis. If you want boobs you should go to Sin City. Ah, and Mr. Taggerty is a dumb . . . he's a iock isn't he? Mr. Taggerty is a dumb iock. I really detest Taggerty. Really, truly, madly, deeply. Gregory does get a cool line though. And then another one because Gregory is smart. Oh, and all athletes are dumb iocks. If they're guys. Because Rachel is an athlete, she tries to break things with her face; but she's not a mean dumb iock. A bit ditz, sure, but not mean or dumb.
    So Sister Pam and Rachel meet. There is hilarity because Gregory is Rachel's friend. And apparently Rachel dated the DOminus, and then she implies that Iacob is a necrophiliac. I think I've iust found out why he has a patchwork zombie!
    Also: men aren't allowed to be virgins.
    And iust in case you didn't get the planet-sized subtle piece of foreshadowing, Pam is "plain and ordinary". Gregory likes "plain and ordinary". Iust in case you forgot.
    Oh dear. This really is a rehash of Makeover!. And that involved this. Oh, hang on, that's the outfit the Knights of BDSM leather fetishesSin City wear.
    I refuse to keep a Kink count. If I did I'd break it.
    Point is, that happened that Luna who iust needed some new clothes; Sister Pam wants to get Gregory's interest. Allow me to point out that Sister Pam is an ordained member of the Church of Luania. Generally speaking, from a literary point of view, most ordained priests or nuns are celibate. As I mentioned earlier, Luania is suspiciously similar to Luna. And in the classical tradition the lunar goddess was also the goddess of chastity.
    Sister Pam is literally breaking her holy vows to get Greg's interest. And considering how Luna ended up, this will be worse. She's even grasping her Lunanian pendant while she begs for a makeover!
    Hang on. Lady Iayden was a magical priestess of Luania, and when she renounced her vows she lost some of her healing powers. Will something similar happen to Sister Pam.
    For the record; Pam is a derivative of Pamela which means "honey" or "all sweetness". This is a pretty fitting name for Sister Pam then, she's a very sweet, pretty girl. And honey can be used as an antibiotic amongst other things.
    Hey look, the Stubble of Moral Ambiguity! Oh, wow, Mookie wrote a character who spoke disparagingly about a fetish. This is rare, please note it. Anyway, Stubble McNormal apologises. As he should. Taggart is more ierky. Still lacking any sort of redeemable qualities. He does have a point when he calls Garrit McStubble on not openly confronting how the rest of his teammates act. If Garrit McStubble really, truly felt offended, he should have obiected beforehand.
    If you haven't noticed, I'm skipping all the butt puns and the sex iokes. They're exceedingly dull and unworthy of any attention.
    Told you Sister Pam was pretty. Shame she has no self-confidence. Iust like Luna. Neither of them are confident in and of themselves, and they both turn to Rachel, who dresses in a rather outre fashion and is completely comfortable with herself. As was Lady Amelia.
    What we draw from this is that self-confident, self-assured women who don't rely on men dress kinkily.
    What I draw from that is that Mookie has warped perceptions about women and how they dress. People who dress modestly aren't all insecure, needy children who need a Big Strong Man about the house.
    Okay, we have a timeframe! It's been two weeks since the Incident at Barthis. Oh, and Taggarty is a moron and breaks his hand. Because he was angry that the "homosexual" Gregory is a geniune hero.
    While I don't mind that Rachel has muscley arms, I'm driven to point out that they're completely disproportionate to the rest of her body. No other part of her is toned or looks any different from the usual female body of the Dominiverse.
    Pam's so innocent. I don't want to see the outfit. It's going to be a naughty nurse isn't it?
    The title suggests it. Everything suggests it. No Sister Pam, no. Don't be corrupted by Deeganitis. You're sweet and kind and adorable iust the way you are.
    I like you.
    Don't you -
    FFFFFFFFFFFFFF- MOOKIE!!
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    First off, and I can't believe I'm doing this: Boob Update: breasts are not that far apart. Ever. Not without some kind of weird separator bra. And Pam is clearly not wearing one. Furthermore, no matter how latexy or rubbery or fetishy that outfit is, it still shouldn't cling so much to the curvature of the breast! However, given that for once there's a woman (two in fact, remember Rachel from a couple pages ago?) with realistically sized breasts, I think he may have learnt one lesson. Only to fail another.
    Two: Pam is still wearing her Luanian pendant! The chastity vows are still in place! Chastity and celibacy are not the same thing! While they are very closely related, they are not one hundred percent the same! As Sister Pam is clearly breaking her chastity vows, and aiming to break the celibacy one, while in that outfit, I call corruption of another pure and gentle soul.
    At least she's got the smarts to go with the hotness. Inappropriate Butt Shot Count: 4!
    Iust to prove Taggart's an ass he punches out Sister Pam because she can't use white magic to heal him. Because, after all, it was all her fault he punched a stone memorial. Sister Pam's still sweet though.
    Innapropriate Butt Shot Count: 5! And then Taggarty threatens to murder Sister Pam if Gregory doesn't heal him. Braggarty is a moronic, one-dimensional non-entity whose soul existence is to provide some unnecessary antagonism. Probably to get Sister Pam together with Gregory.
    Because having an arc devoted solely to character study and a gentle progression towards honest affection is boring and stupid and asinine.
    And so Gregory goes Super Saiyan Dragon Ball Z style. His eyes blank out too, so that shows it's iust a symptom of using uber-powerful magic.
    Hey. Anyone remember how it's only been two weeks since Gregory had full access to his powers? And yet he seems to have perfect control of it?
    Well, at least Mookie shows it's a strain on Gregory's stamina. Plus we now have Hulk-Iocks. Three of them.
    Hang on. Why isn't Garrit McStubble affected? He was in the blast radius. So was Sister Pam. I know she was healed, but so was Braggarty, and he gets to Hulk out. And Sister Pam's still unconscious. Even though it was established back in Into the Woods that the white fire healed all wounds. Like the Dominus' mortal wound. But it doesn't bring someone back to consciousness.
    It seems Garrit McStubble is resistant to all magic. Okay, but it still doesn't explain Sister Pam. Of course, the Hulk-Iocks beat Garrit McStubble into the floor. I do like that Garrit McStubble is defending people he literally doesn't know because it's the right thing to do.
    So Gregory goes all Deegan on their butts in a pacifist way and creates homoeroticism. Um.
    Making two people feel emotions towards people they wouldn't ordinarily feel that emotion or change their attitude towards like in general is abusing them emotionally.
    Great. New category. Emotional rape. For comedy.
    Attempted Rape/Rape Count: 7.
    Garrit McStubble also gets punched out of the window. Another dumb fight scene, Gregory's mildly badass, saves Sister Pam (this is boring) and the pacifist Gregory sacrifices his own health to save Sister Pam.
    Oh hai Rachel. What are you going to do? The last Muggle to fight the Hulksters got breaten pretty badly. You have a plan?
    Yes. Yes she does. She broke his fist with her face. I've always liked Rachel. She is now awesome. And then she beats him like a red-headed stepchild. Nice revenge.
    While this was going on Garrit McStubble is bleeding to death. This is treated as a iokey punchline. Pam pulls a Luna, and then she shows how good she is at her work. Because Garrit McStubble's resistant to all magic. I like that. Someone's character trait is introduced solely to help another character develope. Hell, even after everything Braggarty did to her, she still holds to her oaths and treats him. She somehow looks ominous while putting on those gloves. I like the artwork for p. 4.
    This is cute. It plays off what we know about them personally and manages to sum up the entire reason this arc exists. Because Gregory and Sister Pam fit very well together; but they're both innocent and don't know how to go about confessing their interest in the other because of their lack of experience in the world outside of their sheltered circumstances.

    Iacob!
    Wait.
    It starts off with the Dominus telling Mama Machina about Gregory, and bookends with Iacob and Patchwork Zombie scrying on Gregory.
    I sense symbolism.
    The DOminus v. Iacob.
    Mama Machina v. Patchwork Zombie.
    I hereby dub Pathwork Zmbie as Zombie Machina.
    However, when did the viewpoint change. It can't have always been the Dominus, it makes no sense whatsoever for any of the events detailed in this arc to be told from the Dominus' point of view; so all this was from Iacob and Zombie Machina's point of view?
    It makes more sense.
    But then why did we have the fake-out Dominus start at the beginning? Probably because the Dominus must appear in every arc or he will be Displeased and will fire them all.

    That's it for this arc.
    While I really don't like the lengths to which Sister Pam went to get Gregory's attention, or the fact that she's basically an ordained nun and presumably follows the usual nunly orders, and yet she still tries to get Gregory's attention.
    The idiot iocks have absolutely no redeeming qualities or anything even vaguely interesting about them. This is bad writing. Was Mookie beaten up by iocks or something?
    I still like Sister Pam and Rachel though. They're sweet. Gregory's so-so, I think he's developed as a character; he's definitely more overtly pacifistic now. But he went Super Saiyan on me. Sucky.
    Garrit McStubble is okay. He's honourable, and fairly cool, but he's a flat character.

    It was better than TEatE. Probably because there were only two attempted/actual rapes and hardly any kinks. And at least Sister Pam was more covered up than every. single. female. character. in TEatE. Except Luna and Mama Machina. Because Good People Cover Up Their Skin.


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    Swirly whirly things made of magic and Dirk the Mighty comes back. I hope his character doesn't get warped. And the swirly whirly thing resembles a Picasso painting or something cubist.
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    This is a point I actually like about Mookie's world. The whole celibacy thing has always bugged me in RL religions.... aaaand that's all I'll say about that. Don't wanna break any rules I almost forgot about that rule there... oops.

    @Curly: I know I was a bit tough on you in the beginning, but after you've moved to the actually problematic parts of DD, I'm thoroughly enjoying your analysis. It may just be the train wreck factor, but really... re-living the DD of old is awesome
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    Well, not soon. I think that arc in particular is still years off. Curly's not even to War in Hell yet.

    Between now and then, there's still a couple good arcs. Storm of Souls was pretty solid (which is up next!) and things kind of go downhill after it. It's still okay up until Two Thief, after which comes Class Action which isn't entirely bad (just kinda stupid).

    Then comes Snowsong.

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    This is a point I actually like about Mookie's world. The whole celibacy thing has always bugged me in RL religions.... aaaand that's all I'll say about that. Don't wanna break any rules I almost forgot about that rule there... oops.
    It hasn't been made clear yet, so I work off what I know. I'll probably end up posting a retraction of some sort when I get to that particular part of the webcomic.

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    @Curly: I know I was a bit tough on you in the beginning, but after you've moved to the actually problematic parts of DD, I'm thoroughly enjoying your analysis. It may just be the train wreck factor, but really... re-living the DD of old is awesome
    I'll admit I'm enioying this a fair bit, even with the material I'm writing about. I am interested about the arcs Battle For Barthis and War in Hell. They sound interesting.
    Shadow of Seigfrid looks intriguing too. But that's because I really like Siggy.

    I don't know about Storm of Souls yet. From the title it's got me thinking of ASoIaF because of how dramatic the title is. The third ASoIaF was Storm of Swords. This makes me want to read George R. R. Martin again. It's probably where he got the title from given as that book was published in 2000.
    But from my preview three pages it's a Mindvision Quest.
    I don't believe the arc will live up to the promise of the title.


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    Well, not soon. I think that arc in particular is still years off. Curly's not even to War in Hell yet.

    Between now and then, there's still a couple good arcs. Storm of Souls was pretty solid (which is up next!) and things kind of go downhill after it. It's still okay up until Two Thief, after which comes Class Action which isn't entirely bad (just kinda stupid).

    Then comes Snowsong.

    I guarantee you'll stop in the middle of Snowsong just going 'wat' over and over and over and over again.
    I've heard rumours of Snowsong. There's an emo ice poet who acts all emo and kills people.
    While reading poetry.
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    [QUOTE=CurlyKitGirl;9455668]Because we went from Evil Necromancer to Evil Demon-Posessed Posse of Mass Murderers, to an American Football team?[/url]

    Mookie has some thing against jocks. It's kinda weird.

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    Just so you know, we usually use that term for when it's a dead/dying/unconscious female.

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    Well, not soon. I think that arc in particular is still years off. Curly's not even to War in Hell yet.

    Between now and then, there's still a couple good arcs. Storm of Souls was pretty solid (which is up next!) and things kind of go downhill after it. It's still okay up until Two Thief, after which comes Class Action which isn't entirely bad (just kinda stupid).
    SoS was, at the very least, a step up from the last two IIRC. But, yeah, overall pretty solid. It's main faults, I think, were the story not ending after that, and Mookie's morality failings being big plot points that drove the arc.

    Two Thief, I thought, was a brief peak amongst general badness. Much better than what surrounds it. Not much more needs to be said about the war in hell, and Class Action had so many wallbangers. And is retroactively worse because it set up Maltak more than any other arc. The bit where Iacob visited was funny, though.

    See, now I'm doing it.

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    Shadow of Seigfrid looks intriguing too. But that's because I really like Siggy.
    Shadow of Seigfried is not a good arc for the Siggy-likers. Which was most of us, I think.
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