[BitP:R] BleachitP: Reborn: OOC Thread 12

[Lord_Asmodeus]

I realize I sort of accidentally butted into someone else's evaluation thingy, but uh...

how about my guy?

[Kuroimaken]

I don't see a background on 'im.

[Lord_Asmodeus]

hm, does seem I forgot to add a background.

[Kuroimaken]

Indeed. A character's background is an incredibly defining aspect of their whole.

Reiji would be a completely different character if he just happened to be a blind fan of hero comic books instead of the son of a murdered prosecutor...

[Terry576]

Indeed. A character's background is an incredibly defining aspect of their whole.

Reiji would be a completely different character if he just happened to be a blind fan of hero comic books instead of the son of a murdered prosecutor...

Not if he suffered from that one disorder that superimposes everything you hear onto you, and makes it your history.

He could've been a Batman fan.

[Kuroimaken]

Not if he suffered from that one disorder that superimposes everything you hear onto you, and makes it your history.

He could've been a Batman fan.

I thought that particular disorder wasn't lasting enough for a lifetime change?

Although in this particular case, he wouldn't remember having powers.

[Lord_Asmodeus]

Well, I have adhered a background to the post, which I will now furnish you with


Background:

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Amore Love has always been somewhat small, weak, and more than a little bit effeminate, at least physically. He was able to survive Hueco Mundo by traveling with more powerful Hollow, one of which in particular he became attached to, and who also became rather attached to him. He fought beside this friend, or perhaps more than friend, for years, becoming more powerful largely through his help, but their friendship was not to last. Eventually, they faced an opponent they could not defeat, and both Amore and his friend fought as hard as they could against their foe, but to no avail. However, as the battle seemed finished, Amore discovered his ability to aid his friend by boosting his strength, but by then it was too late. Already weakened and broken, his friend fell to the more powerful hollow, but Amore was lucky, if it could be called that. The one who defeated his friend noticed his talent, and allowed him to live if he would use his abilities for him. Reluctantly Amore agreed, but this alliance would not last either. And so, Amore went from Hollow to Hollow, until Amore rose to the level of Menos, and finally, Adjuchas, always tagging on to more powerful Hollow until they, in turn are defeated. Eventually, one of the many he was to attach himself to faced the possibility of joining Las Noches, of becoming an Arrancar, but sadly in the end, he too fell. However, Amore's abilities would once more avail with him with the means to survive and to raise himself up, for his peculiar abilities were noted and valued, as a means of attributing more power to other Arrancar. Amore has become afraid to become committed to any one friend or relationship, always afraid he will have to face the loss of someone he had become attached to because they would be destroyed by another.

[KnightDisciple]

"Naturally. None who have thought so have dared trespass into your Palacio and lived." Serazel replied calmly. Mei would have likely seen the scattered corpses here and there.

Vicente lived!

[Dorizzit]

It's only partial. Note that it takes multiple upgrades before it totally blocks anyone, let alone him.

If you'd really like, I could move the percentages up one upgrade. Possibly have it only ever get up to 75% power blockage for him and those close to his prowess.

That would make me entirely satisfied.

[KnightDisciple]

Right then. Revision below for further review.

First, my proposal for development on his cloak.

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Currently, Vicente's Reiatsu Cloak Model 1 makes it extraordinarily difficult to detect him until he's using over 25% of his maximum unreleased power. However, those with Pesquisa near the level of the Quinta can still detect him. Below is the list of revised models. None of them work in Resurreccion, being absorbed into his being like the rest of his clothes, rendering them inert for the duration of the release.

-Reiatsu Cloak Model 2: Works up to 50% power; still cannot block extremely sensitive detectors (such as Quinta Espada). Cloak has improved structural elements, making it more difficult to damage.

-Reiatsu Cloak Model 3: Works up to 75% power, or up to 25% for extremely sensitive detectors (such as Quinta Espada). Cloak has added redundancies, making it more difficult to decrease performance with damage.

-Reiatsu Cloak Model 4: Works up to 100% power, or up to 50% for extremely sensitive detectors (such as Quinta Espada).

-Reiatsu Cloak Model 5: Works up to 100% power, or up to 75% for extremely sensitive detectors (such as Quinta Espada). Cloak now shrinks into special storage unit around shoulders (becoming inactive while doing so), allowing Vicente to more easily dispense with its effects, if and when he desires.

Next, we have some items that improve delivery of existing tech, and possibly add one or two items.

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-Chaff Pellets: Inspired by some of Serazel's tactics, the frustration of Serazel's Bala, and a bit of research on mortal technology, these pellets are a decidedly defensive measure. When tossed outwards, they have a 2-second delay before a small explosion throws a Vicente-sized cloud of anti-spirit-energy chaff into the air. This chaff is excellent for disrupting lower-energy attacks by bala, as well as for misdirecting any attacks that home in on spirit energy. Cero are typically barely affected, unless they have a homing component, or are already comparatively diffuse. Vicente typically carries 5 of these pellets in his belt at all times.

-Omni-Gauntlets: While his body as an Arrancar allows Vicente to throw his pellets with great accuracy and power, he has found that it can be difficult to deliver them rapidly, as he hast to manually retrieve each pellet. Thus, the Omni-Gauntlet. (Rough image here. Colored all black, and lacks the obvious screws, the 2 hose connectors, and the 4 very small holes near the front. Slightly smoother lines.)
First and foremost, the Omni-Gauntlets incorporate a system for launching the various pellets that Vicente has invented. Through serious work, they can achieve roughly 80% of the velocity his own muscle-powered throws can, and have essentially the same accuracy. The rate of fire is notably increased, as the gauntlets can cycle the next pellet to fire within 1.5 seconds. Through some serious work with specialized compression and "micro-dimensional pockets", Vicente has a store of 5 of each pellet in each of his gauntlets, giving him 50 pellets overall, not counting his additional stores in his belt. He cannot reload in the field, due to the time-consuming nature of the storage mechanism. The launchers are triggered by precise muscle movements and miniscule pulses of spiritual energy.
Second, the Omni-Gauntlets have slightly smaller versions of his Grapnel Gun. Whereas the independent gun has about 300 feet of rope, these only have 50. However, as with the pellet guns, they are more easily triggered, as well as being much more difficult to remove from his possession.
Finally, the gauntlets possess a small variety of tools that Vicente can use in the field. Simple lockpicks, wire cutters, a small acid projector on each gauntlet (useless for combat, but precise enough for melting locks, glass, etc), and sundry other simple tools.
All in all, the Omni-Gauntlets stand as his finest invention, right alongside his Reiatsu Cloak.

[Dorizzit]

Looks good to me.

[Kuroimaken]

Vicente lived!

Vicente didn't figure Mei was easy, he figured she was doable.

[KnightDisciple]

Vicente didn't figure Mei was easy, he figured she was doable.

So...much...innuendo...

[horngeek]

"Oh, doable, am I?"

[KnightDisciple]

"Oh, doable, am I?"

...

"So I've heard."

[InyutheBeatIs]

"Oh, doable, am I?"

*throws up arms in the air*

"THAT'S WHAT SHE SA-"

*tackle*

[Kuroimaken]

So...much...innuendo...

The innuendo in there was subtle like a ton of bricks, yes.

"I should have you executed for that."

Yeah, yeah, Serazel. I heard you.

[riccaru]

The cloak shouldn't be a problem. As KD stated, it only hides Reiatsu - there's a relatively low-level Kido which lets Shinigami do the same *and* turn invisible.

Most creatures capable of following Vincente with Pesquisa (etc.) would still be able to track him visually, or by scent, sound touch or what not.

The other stuff is also on the level of minor Kido spells - a slight boost in versatility, but hardly major abilities by themselves.

Which can be broken if fighting a stronger opponent. The cloak cannot. How does nobody else think that coupled with a general boost in power to a numeros, that being silent and invisible to the extra senses, wouldn't be overpowered? How many characters could actually track him without pesquiza or hearing? He's also able to hide his location using the blackout pellets, which he can see through.

There are no weaknesses to this character. At all. He's a perfect character, good at offense, defense, evasion, etc. He can sneak up on at least 99% of characters and murder them in their sleep. For people who claim to want to avoid power creep you're sure letting someone abuse the system. Not to mention the most vocal opposer of "save or suck/save or die" abilities now proposes an item which cannot be defeated in a way that everything else can be defeated in. So no matter what you do, how powerful you are, how powerful your senses are, Vincente can hide from you.

So he's now more capable than every other character in game at hiding his presence. Oh, and he has extra objects such as being basically invisible, and holding people in place.

Over-Powered.

[strawberryman]

Reiatsu Cloak Model 1: Vicente's trump card, and his most prized possession. This cloak, the one he seems to wear at all times, helps "muffle" his energy signature, making him much harder to detect. Shinigami instruments might well perceive him as a glitch, so long as he isn't using too much power. It cannot cloak the signature of things like his Cero and Bala, and if he raises his reiatsu too high, the effect is partialy nullified, giving away his position. Currently, anything above 25% of his full measure of power and ability is at least partially detectable; as well, those with extraordinary Pesquisa, such as the Quinta Espada, may be able to partially or fully "see" through the cloak's effects. It is "absorbed" during his release (along with much of his clothing), rendering it non-functional. It is keyed to his unique energy, so no other being can use his cloak. He has a couple of "general use" cloaks, but they have only 60% of the effectiveness of his cloak; their primary use would be disguising the reduced signature of a defeated opponent, to prevent tracking.

Hmmm... Doesn't sound much like "undetectable" to me, with all those highlights. Definitely not "no matter how hard you try, Vicente can hide from you".

Kyakko is a kido that completely blankets spiritual pressure.

Reiatsu cloaks are available in Viatrix's shop (which I am fully willing to negotiate on, or remove).

Really, what's the big deal here? It's nothing new. If you're going to nitpick at KD when he was being completely reasonable about it and had noted limitations on his cloak, what about the others?

Also, has Vicente "come to kill everyone in their sleep"? I think not.

[Wahrheit]

Hmmm... Doesn't sound much like "undetectable" to me, with all those highlights. Definitely not "no matter how hard you try, Vicente can hide from you".

Kyakko is a kido that completely blankets spiritual pressure.

Reiatsu cloaks are available in Viatrix's shop (which I am fully willing to negotiate on, or remove).

Really, what's the big deal here? It's nothing new. If you're going to nitpick at KD when he was being completely reasonable about it and had noted limitations on his cloak, what about the others?

Also, has Vicente "come to kill everyone in their sleep"? I think not.

As-written, with its weakness to extraordinary Pesquisa, even Asdrubal would be able to see through it at least partially and he's not even an Arrancar.

[Kasanip]

'Pesquisa' is Hueco Mundo character skill but I don't know what it is.

What is skill name for other characters?

[horngeek]

Link to the Bleach wiki page on the subject.

[Cyborg Mage]

Is this still open? I've got a few ideas for a shinigami... Or at least his zanpakto. (Is that spelt right?)

[horngeek]

It's always open, it's always been open, and it's always going to be open.

Just post the character up first so the community can analyse for balance.

[Frozen_Feet]

Which can be broken if fighting a stronger opponent. The cloak cannot.

Fiddlesticks. Out of all my characters, more than half could simply burn it. All could shred it to pieces. And in open space, like, say, open sky which is a perfectly viable battleground for many of them, most could track Vincente solely by sight.

Also, almost any character could murder another character who's sleeping. The trick is finding them and getting to them in such a vulnerable state - and Vincente does not have fool proof means to get anywhere he wants any time he wants. Sturdy enough door would force him to reveal himself or go somewhere else.

[horngeek]

Fiddlesticks. Out of all my characters, more than half could simply burn it.

One of my characters is very suited for this method.

"Hmm? What?"

[Cyborg Mage]

Okay, my character is up in the registry. Feel free to have a look over it, suggest ranks etc.

EDIT: Sorry, it shouldn't really be in the registry yet, should it? Ah well, i'll delete the post if it's not accepted.

[KnightDisciple]

Fiddlesticks. Out of all my characters, more than half could simply burn it. All could shred it to pieces. And in open space, like, say, open sky which is a perfectly viable battleground for many of them, most could track Vincente solely by sight.

Also, almost any character could murder another character who's sleeping. The trick is finding them and getting to them in such a vulnerable state - and Vincente does not have fool proof means to get anywhere he wants any time he wants. Sturdy enough door would force him to reveal himself or go somewhere else.

This is a key point. He's not invisible. I've purposefully made it where he has to use skill and terrain to achieve visual stealth. As Frozen said, open sky would make the cloak essentially useless.

Honestly, it's meant for 2 things.
1.)Getting close to a target in Las Noches without being picked up.
2.)Allowing him to go to the Mortal World without setting off a bajillion alarms.

Again note that as soon as he releases, the cloak stops working. He's fully detectable via reiatsu.

And the "blackout bombs" have a very small radius, and a very short life. As demonstrated already, their primary use is to distract an opponent, not turn the battlefield into a black abyss that only he can navigate. They're a pale imitation of his own Resurreccion.

As well, even his highest model cloak can be pierced by those with sufficiently high detection ability, albeit only when he's truly exerting himself. I would ask that the total number of people who can do this remain low. I'm talking 10 or less; that's why I named the Quinta Espada as an example, rather than some Numeros.

Now, while Frozen is right that it can be burned, it's not made of gas-soaked tissue paper. You can't just toss a match on there and watch it burn.

But even with the improved toughness, it isn't invulnerable.


That said, sturdy doors rely on locks and hinges. Depending on which side he was on, he could theoretically get through. But it wouldn't be perfectly silent, and it would take time and skill.

[KnightDisciple]

Okay, my character is up in the registry. Feel free to have a look over it, suggest ranks etc.

EDIT: Sorry, it shouldn't really be in the registry yet, should it? Ah well, i'll delete the post if it's not accepted.

You don't have to delete the post. However, we do typically ask that someone at least link the post when they announce themselves in OOC. It allows the rest of us to more easily evaluate it.

[Lord_Asmodeus]

You don't have to delete the post. However, we do typically ask that someone at least link the post when they announce themselves in OOC. It allows the rest of us to more easily evaluate it.

Speaking of which, in case I did not include it earlier here is a link to Amore Love, now with background.