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2010-10-11, 06:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-10-11, 06:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Totem Cleric:A divine fighter that uses a totem which empowers him.
I will not have as much acces to a computer so I will not post as much.
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2010-10-11, 06:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Renamed Critical Weakness to Double-Edged Sword, which gives a rather hefty benefit should it suffer a critical hit. Also had the claws come in at third level instead of fourth.
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SpoilerDon't have enough templates in your life? Let's Read the Book of Templates: Deluxe Edition!(Abandoned)
78% of DM's started their first campaign in a tavern. If you're one of the 22% that didn't, copy and paste this into your signature.
Where did you start yours?
In the employer/BBEG's mansion.
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2010-10-11, 06:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Any particular reason nobody is commenting on Illurien? Link
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2010-10-11, 11:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Awakened Cat: The picture's fine. There's just one thing, though: why do you keep doing awesome classes? Seriously, the Astral Construct was great, and this is just as epic.
Anyways, a few nitpicks:\
if pixie gets a strength penalty, this definitely does. At least -2. Feel free to up the bonuses in that case, though.
HD should be lower, skills should be higher.
Also, see the previous post.
Oooh, and scrap the dodge bonus. No-no. Just go with a high dex and be done with it.
Ettin: How does Ettin Body work with Brain Spread? Say, a mind-affecting effect causes the ettin to be dazed- is only one arm dazed? Spell it out. Think of all possible eventualities.
Nimblewright: State that, under Augmented Critical, the additional 1 applies after the doubling, and that they stack.
Nashrou: ...Interesting.
Go ahead and give it the claws at 2nd level, and let it start with 40 ft. move speed.
Standard saves.
You should generally have a class skill list at least twice the skill points. Either reduce the skill points, or add more class skills.
Also, it doesn't have 3rd and 4th levels- it's HD, not levels for those.
Illurien: Moar skillz! Feel free to give 8+int per level, all class skills as skills! This is a genius knowledge-gathering creature we're talking about here, after all.
Give casting multiclassing, like the ogre mage.
State that, on tempest lash, the die size increases on the intelligence damage- it's poorly worded.
Also, Illurien should get iterative attacks with it.
Also- no save. Reduce the damage a lot, and no save. That's far too much rolling for my tastes.
Could get some higher abilities- go ahead and toss in a physical ability bonus, or charisma.
2nd level is awful. Instead, follow the standard for extraplanars- roll up all the planar resistances into one for 2nd level, as well as the aligned strike. Look at other extraplanars for formatting.
Reword the 16th level infinite knowledge.
5 ft. per HD is a bit lame. At level 5, that's 25. Go ahead and start it at a higher amount, and let it increase in intervals.
Cloud of Foresight should progress. Check out the displacer beast.
Storm of Visions is potentially VERY annoying for party members.
OGL material only! I said to use knowledge devotion for inspiration, not to use the feat itself.
Whatever happened to analyze dweomer?
Feel free to give even more divinatory SLAs, as well.
Home Plane is a bit wonky. What's on this home plane? Beyond that, Rejuvenation makes it impossible to ever permanently do away with her. At least do a level penalty or something like that.
Pointed Knowledge? Figure it out, somehow. Also, if you ever need more inspiration, this thing is essentially a factotum, which is an excellent class.
Hyudra: Oh, that's fine- I just figured that was essentially your only project at the moment. Anyways, good on the horrid monster.
...Did I miss anyone?Marceline Abadeer by Gnomish Wanderer
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2010-10-11, 11:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Thank you for the critique Gorgon. I'll implement some things tomorrow. Right now my head really hurts for some reason.
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2010-10-11, 11:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Marceline Abadeer by Gnomish Wanderer
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2010-10-12, 12:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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You don't have a headache cure by chance do you?
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2010-10-12, 12:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-10-12, 12:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-10-12, 12:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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*Gives sympathy hug to Gorgon*
I look greatly forward to the revised Illurien, and I LOVE where you're going so far!
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2010-10-12, 12:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-10-12, 12:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-10-12, 12:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Well, the fluff states that she actually DOES something (beyond gaining temp HP) with those memories she drains. Maybe a temp bonus on knowledge checks? Store 'em as points used to buff her physicals temporarily? Charge SoV to gain an AC bonus?
The Atheneum Nefarious is also a trap-laden library lair. Maybe it gives a bonus to research rolls for spells/knowledges? Helps her craft magical items? Nice place for the party to lair up once in a while?
It should be noted that she can only plane shift to the Atheneum, though it contains numerous portals.
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2010-10-12, 12:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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How's the Arrow Demon looking now?
Homebrew: Ghost Rider, a 3.5e Base Class inspired by Marvel's Comics.
So guys, the new Iron Man trailer, huh?
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2010-10-12, 02:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Woo, I can start my next one. Maybe something with slightly less levels to fill this time.
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2010-10-12, 06:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Gorgon, how is the revised Dream Larva?
You can find it here! Hope that even if I have to make changes, it's at least a little bit better than the original.
Also hope that your head feels better, I know critiquing the Dream Larva again is not going to help.Last edited by Magicyop; 2010-10-12 at 07:51 AM.
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Auran Pirate, a sailor who engraves their ship with powerful runes and creates a vessel to be remembered.
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2010-10-12, 11:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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This doesn't really add much to the thread, and I probably shouldn't even bring it up, but I'm a bit on the OCD side, so I'm going to anyway. The (I think) 11th entry on the alphabetical listing currently says "antromorphic animal." I think it's supposed to be "anthropomorphic." Sorry if I'm just being an ass, but it was bugging me....
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2010-10-12, 03:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Totem Cleric:A divine fighter that uses a totem which empowers him.
I will not have as much acces to a computer so I will not post as much.
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2010-10-12, 05:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Might want to think about correcting the main title, too. 'Unholly' scion is kind of jarring.
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According to this test, I am a LN Half-Orc Cleric, Lvl.2.
"And in the layer of the Deep Ones, we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever." - H.P. Lovecraft
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2010-10-12, 05:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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awesome avatar made by Trazoi
Totem Cleric:A divine fighter that uses a totem which empowers him.
I will not have as much acces to a computer so I will not post as much.
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2010-10-12, 05:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Campaign:
The Secret of Trottleburg IC OOC
Characters:
Misrahi Laroux of The Times They Are A-Changing
#14 of Frenzied Entourage
Lilen Zheng of Trouble in Tashwell
Wilbur Rustbreath of Starting a Blue Dawn
Lilen Avatar by Darwin. The rest by me.
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2010-10-12, 07:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Half Fey
Class:
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Type - Any except Construct, Fey or Undead
Skills - Knowledge (Nature) 4 Ranks
Language - Sylvan
Special - Either: have one Fey parent and one non Construct, Fey or Undead parent
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Must have sought another Fey and prove yourself to it under a full moon by succeeding at some whim it decides on; this may be as simple as dancing in time with a group of Pixies, as challenging as matching a Wild Hunt as it tracks it's quarry, or as innane as spending the night telling a Satyr how handsome he is etc. After this success the Fey will take a Cold Iron weapon from you, cut itself slightly and allow you to take a vial of it's blood. Drinking this as dawn breaks completes the ritual and the transformation will be finished after 1 hour.
(Regardless of whichever Special option you pick, you must still have all the other criteria as well)
Hit Dice: d6
{table]Level|BAB|Fort|Ref|Will|Special
1|+0|+0|+2|+2|Fey-Blooded, Faerie Magic, +1 Cha[/table]
Class Skills: 4+Int Mod; Bluff, Concentration, Diplomacy, Disguise, Escape Artist, Handle Animal, Heal, Hide, Knowledge (History, Nature, Planes), Listen, Move Silently, Perform, Sense Motive, Slight of Hand, Spot, Survival
Class Features:
Fey-Blooded: Unlike other monster classes the Half Fey doesn't lose it's racial traits, but it does gain Fey Traits and a bonus on Saves vs. Enchantment spells equal to 1/2 it's HD, becoming full Immunity at 15HD.
- At 4HD the Half Fey gains DR overcome by Cold Iron Weapons equal to 1/2 it's HD.
- At 6HD the Half Fey grows a pair of wings, usually designed after butterfly wings, but certain Half Fey have different types. They gain a fly speed equal to their land speed with Average manoeuvrability. This increases to double land speed with Good manoeuvrability at 10HD.
Faerie Magic: Half Fey may use several spell-like abilities that are obtained at the HD shown on the table below. SLAs are obtained retroactively. The Save DC for all Faerie Magic is 10+1/2HD+Cha Mod
{table]HD|Spell-Like Abilities
1|Charm Person 1/day
2|Sleep 1/day
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4|Hideous Laughter 1/day
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6|Glitterdust 1/day
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8|Suggestion 1/day
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10|Crushing Despair 1/day
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12|Dream 1/day
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14|Eyebite 1/day
15|
16|Mass Invisibility 1/day
17|
18|Irresistible Dance 1/day
19|
20|Dominate Monster 1/day[/table]
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SpoilerCouldn't think of anything to do and this was on the waiting list. Thoughts? Maybe some way to stagger the SLAs, coz that seems like a lot for one level.Last edited by Kobold-Bard; 2010-10-19 at 07:28 AM.
Piratebold-Bard by Elder Tsofu | Backer #121 of the Giantitp Kickstarter | My homebrew
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2010-10-12, 11:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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It gets a whole lot of stuff for a single level of investment. The spell-likes in particular are a little powerful/versatile/plentiful for what you put into the class.
Something I'd want clarified: When you say this 'or' that, do you mean you pick once and that's it, or you can pick on a whim when the time comes, and then pick something else another day?Last edited by Hyudra; 2010-10-12 at 11:05 PM.
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2010-10-12, 11:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Okay, I thought I'd have more time today than I did. I'll try and get Illurien done by Sunday. I'd do it tomorrow but I have school, Guitar to play (Taking lessons), a D&D game to plan out, and cousins coming. As opposed to the rest of the week when I just have school, a D&D game to plan out, and guitar to play
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2010-10-13, 12:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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SLAs: Why not stagger them out with specific levels... I mean 1-2 is great and all but all that really means is at level 1. Level 2 doesn't gain anything, so you could place one on Level 1, and two on level 2.
Also, wouldn't SLAs based on HD per day be more fitting with the running theme? It seems the Half-Celestial and Half-Fiend do so...
Personal note, I always felt that the half-fey should be on par with the Half-fiend/celestial... I realize this project is attempting to capture CR and not 'what chumplump thinks should be,' but even so, they are good balance points for reference.
I don't think Tempest Lash and Pointed knowledge need to be referenced in Outsider Body.
Is Tempest lash a Supernatural ability or natural attack? If it is a Supernatural ability it doesn't need proficiency, but it does need a range, or a targeting system of some sort... If it's a melee attack, you might specify.
Why is at 8th level in parenthesis for Storm of visions SU? Shouldn't the Su be in them instead?
Might specify caster level equals HD on SLAs. And with Planeshift you might specify if it can take creatures with it. A lot of Planeshift as SLAs (English plurals are so confusing) do.
I'm not familiar with the Monster, but is there a way to actually destroy it? A phylactery if you will? If not, free rejuvenation at level 15 is actually kind of imbalanced IMO. A Lich of SRD standards must be ECL 15, and has to safe guard a glowy bright 'Smashmenow!' box. She just has to wait two days...
Edit: I'll tackle the Grave-touched Ghoul. I need to stop looking through spells and double back checking the Living Spell for a bit. I also have a request for The Shadow and The Gargoyle.
Anyway, that's just my 2 copper painted wood pieces.Last edited by AugustNights; 2010-10-13 at 01:14 AM.
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2010-10-13, 08:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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I want to try my hand at homebrewing monster classes, and I want to try and do the Concordant Killer (MM IV), it is a CR 19 Outsider, so I am going to ask, do you think it is a big project fot a newbie to this?
I haven't read the entire thread, so if someone is already doing this, please tell me and I will find another critter to homebrew.
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2010-10-13, 08:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-10-13, 08:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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It's not the size, it's what you do with it. If it's something you want to make then don't let the amount of levels stop you. I actually looked at that yesterday so am looking forward to seeing what you do with it
Re: 1/2 Fey. I'll spread the lower level SLAs out a bit so you get some at even HDs.Piratebold-Bard by Elder Tsofu | Backer #121 of the Giantitp Kickstarter | My homebrew
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