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    Welcome, one and all, to my second attempt at a comic on these boards. The first, closed for reasons I'd rather not need to state, takes place several years before and on a separate continent to this one, though The Moyen Lands is set to take place in the same overall world as The Darklord's Echoes.

    However, it is hardly more of the same. This comic will take place in the lands and cultures of the Moyenmen, a race of humanoids with pale green skin and fangs briefly touched upon in DLE, who were stated to have largely left to their homeland many years ago.

    This comic shall be set in their homeland, far across the sea. It's artistic styles are heavily influenced by Asian styles, mixed with a healthy dose of words which are, for all intents and purposes, Fake French (since I'm mostly just shooting for that sound, but not actually trying to use French.)

    Well, enough of these words - let the comic commence!

    Welcome to the Moyen Lands.

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    Looks VERY promising. The art style looks amazing. I will keep reading.
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    What he said. Minus the art style. Not that it ain't good, I just don't really care about art styles.
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    Wonderful to see another comic from you, Bright my friend. And It does not look like it will disappoint us, in fact it looks very promising indeed.

    Which is fake Gentleman English for: Great comic, Brightie boy! Looks awesome!
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    At first, it was the smiley faces and the mannerisms. Then, it was the infernal magpie. It struck a chord. A cutely fiendish, macabre chord.

    An then I saw Keveak in the sorting hat and you are just the cutest thing when you want to be. My gosh look at that. It's squee-inducing.

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    Man, bout time this thread popped up. I've been spending the past four days waiting with my buffer.

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    I wish I read your previous comic series (Though if this one takes place several years later, then how did the plot of The Darklord's Echoes affect the world that this is on?) but I will be watching this one with interest!

    One criticism though: Many of the characters' movements and expressions look stiff and stilted.

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    There's not a lot I can do about that, unfortunately. I do my best, but when you're working with joints and limbs instead of curvy wiggly lines, things tend to be a little like that.

    However, I haven't had a chance to do any real action scenes yet, and apparently I'm okay at the positioning in those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darklord Bright View Post
    There's not a lot I can do about that, unfortunately. I do my best, but when you're working with joints and limbs instead of curvy wiggly lines, things tend to be a little like that.

    However, I haven't had a chance to do any real action scenes yet, and apparently I'm okay at the positioning in those.
    This is possibly because in a comic strip, the only limb positions we see are the ones that are stopped, none of the in-between stuff.
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    This isn't the sort of humor I usually go for, but it was too easy to pass up.

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    This isn't the sort of humor I usually go for, but it was too easy to pass up.
    Pfft.

    Well, look's pretty interesting. I'll be watching this.

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    The look on his face when he gets kicked. xD
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    There was a new DLB comic? Started on my birthday of all things!
    How was I not aware of this!
    Looking great so far, I can't wait to see where this goes.
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    It was your birthday BRC? Congratulations

    The comic's good too

    Can't wait for page 6, it looks like these guys will keep us entertained for much longer.

    Hope mask-girl returns, she is awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiuiS View Post

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    Wuchu talkin' 'bout DB? I recall you doing nutshots all the time.
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    The main criticism I have with your comic is that you carry over the same perspective over and over each panel. Take a look at this random Superman comic; notice how every panel has a different angle, a different view of the action.

    While it is true that drawing different angle of a scene can be very time exhausting, I've found that simply including close-ups can achieve a similar result while allowing you to re-use the same templates every time. Look at this comic of mine; it's essentially two men talking to each other over a desk, but the boringness of the situation is alleviated by zooming the "camera" in and out on the characters' face and their surrounding objects.

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    This is possibly because in a comic strip, the only limb positions we see are the ones that are stopped, none of the in-between stuff.
    I would suggest that it is because they are being drawn from a side perspective while the characters are drawn from a 3/4 view. The fact that the same templates are used every time for them probably doesn't help either.

    On another note, Bright, if you need to translate something into French or make up French-sounding names, I'd be happy to help.

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    You know, telling me this doesn't really help, since the comics I'm making are... quite ahead of the ones you're seeing. And I'm aware of the close-ups thing, it just makes the inkscape file lag like crazy and become near impossible to use while it bends under the detailed characters and the cut-off bits it's having to remember.

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    In short, too much effort for puny returns. Zooming in, to me, is barely noticed unless it's used scarcely for special moments, and zooming out is the same way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darklord Bright View Post
    You know, telling me this doesn't really help, since the comics I'm making are... quite ahead of the ones you're seeing. And I'm aware of the close-ups thing, it just makes the inkscape file lag like crazy and become near impossible to use while it bends under the detailed characters and the cut-off bits it's having to remember.
    I use close-ups quite abit, and I don't have that problem. Then again, my character designs are a good deal simpler than yours, and my compy might be better.
    One thing that might work is making each panel individually,as it's own image, then importing all the panel images into a single inkscape document, arranging them, and combining them into a single image. It would be tricky to do, and the repeated Import+Export process might hurt quality, but it could be doable (You would have to set up your panel layout ahead of time if you wanted to do different size/shape panels). I might try that when Hell Week is over, and I can get back to Reb|Rev
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    I don't think I'm willing to lessen the quality just to have my 'camera' zoom in and out for no real reason.

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    Does protection from arrows work on bullets?
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    Does protection from arrows work on bullets?
    Maybe, try spending a decade learning that spell to find out.

    Which of course makes magic more awesome anyway, since it lets bookworms like me look awesome just to spite people with guns
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darklord Bright View Post
    I don't think I'm willing to lessen the quality just to have my 'camera' zoom in and out for no real reason.
    But don't you know! ZOOMS=QUALITY
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    but seriously folks. Am I the only one seeing a Magic vs Technology angle developing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRC View Post
    But don't you know! ZOOMS=QUALITY
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    but seriously folks. Am I the only one seeing a Magic vs Technology angle developing?
    i'm pretty sure everyone who read the comic saw it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRC View Post
    But don't you know! ZOOMS=QUALITY
    Zooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom!


    but seriously folks. Am I the only one seeing a Magic vs Technology angle developing?
    Developing? We just got hit over the face with it. Then somebody poured something smelly and infectious into the wounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keveak View Post
    Maybe, try spending a decade learning that spell to find out.

    Which of course makes magic more awesome anyway, since it lets bookworms like me look awesome just to spite people with guns
    Depends how magic works in the Moyen Lands, doesn't it?
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    About the zooming... the main issue is that you have to crop a lot of objects, right?

    What if you do that manually by deleting nodes?
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    About the zooming... the main issue is that you have to crop a lot of objects, right?

    What if you do that manually by deleting nodes?
    Then it would take me 6 hours.

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    The DuShalle girl is very cute.

    Or is that just me?
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    Then it would take me 6 hours.
    ... how many nodes do your characters HAVE?!

    I mean, if you're gonna make a zoom in onto one character, it shouldn't take that long to delete nodes for just that one character >.>
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