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2012-08-20, 12:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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OK so now is there a race with +2 int and is small size?
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I Need It So I Can Make A Hulk In Epic 6
Update 1
Now we need a LA 1 or less to make an Aberation!
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Ok now i need a Small creature with a +2 int and no la.
Will post a link to the build so farLast edited by metabolicjosh; 2012-08-20 at 12:58 PM.
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2012-08-20, 01:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is there a template that makes you small?
Pathfinder has the Young template that could be applied to humanoid species.
3.5 had a template that reduced size. I can't remember what it was called unfortunately, but the fluff was these creatures were born and raised in caves and other tight spaces.
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2012-08-20, 01:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is there a template that makes you small?
Young might work but if i could know any others that would be helpful.
ThanksPeople always complain that 4e is all about combat.
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2012-08-20, 01:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is there a template that makes you small?
There's Dungeonbred, from Dungeonscape, although I don't remember if it had any limits on the types of creatures you could apply it to.
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2012-08-20, 01:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is there a template that makes you small?
Dungeonbred only applies to "any corporeal aberration, animal, magical beast or vermin that is Large or bigger".
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2012-08-20, 01:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is there a template that makes you small?
Dungeonbred is the template in question and it's from dungeonscape. It reduces the creatures size and effectively haves the normal strength penalty for this change while giving some other bonuses that fit a theme of being a lean mean fighting machine. Won't work for the OP though the base creature must be large or larger and must be an aberration, animal, magical beast or vermin.
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2012-08-20, 11:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is there a template that makes you small?
Well then i need a LA 1 template that makes me a aberation.
People always complain that 4e is all about combat.
Yet people always have a Ungodly Power in 3.5
Why don't we roleplay anymore?
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2012-08-20, 11:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is there a template that makes you small?
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2012-08-20, 11:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-20, 11:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is there a template that makes you small?
Goliath
Im trying to side step the usual 6 level lead up to "Hulk Out"People always complain that 4e is all about combat.
Yet people always have a Ungodly Power in 3.5
Why don't we roleplay anymore?
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2012-08-20, 11:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is there a template that makes you small?
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2012-08-20, 11:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is there a template that makes you small?
Ah. Hmm...
Actually, why do you need to be small? Already just as a Goliath Barbarian 5 you are Medium except when you rage, so a Goliath Barbarian 5/War Hulk 1 would only gain the benefits of War Hulk while in a rage. The whole point of small in most Hulk builds is the comedy value of being a kobold or a halfling or the like and doing this, but you'd be a goliath, even if a small one, so you wouldn't get that.
That said, if you still want to be small, the following applies:
So you don't need any Goliath except for qualification for the sub-level, right?
How about: you start out as a Half-Minotaur Goliath. Yes this means you're Large, seems like a step backwards. You then become a Dustform Creature, followed by Incarnate Construct. You are now a Large Giant, but also a Goliath. Then have someone cast Return to Nature on you (it's E6, so you'll need to find a Dragon or similar) twice. You will shrink to small.Lord Raziere herd I like Blasphemy, so Urpriest Exalted as a Malefactor
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2012-08-20, 12:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is there a template that makes you small?
Thats a intriguing idea
People always complain that 4e is all about combat.
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2012-08-20, 12:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is there a template that makes you small?
The other reason to be small in the Hulk build (non-kobold small that is), is that you will get the benefit of two size increases when you use Mountain Rage. That is an extra +4 Str, +2 Con, IIRC. Of course you are usually paying for it with a Racial -2 Str, so it is only marginally useful.
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2012-08-20, 12:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is there a template that makes you small?
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2012-08-20, 12:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is there a template that makes you small?
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SpoilerRegarding my Necrotic Apprentice trick:
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2012-08-20, 12:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is there a template that makes you small?
Ok now i need a Small creature with a +2 int and no la.
Will post a link to the build so farPeople always complain that 4e is all about combat.
Yet people always have a Ungodly Power in 3.5
Why don't we roleplay anymore?
Dantiesilva the Tactician Won
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2012-08-20, 01:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OK so now is there a race with +2 int and is small size?
If you really don't care about the fluff, there's the beguiler, a magical beast from around page 11 of Shining South that has +6 dex, +2 int, -2 str, and is small. It also has constant true seeing and is a cohort however.
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2012-08-20, 01:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OK so now is there a race with +2 int and is small size?
Dragonlance Gnomes: +2 Dex, +2 Int, -2 Str, -2 Wis. Small size. Dragonlance Campaign Setting p. 27.
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2012-08-20, 03:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-20, 03:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OK so now is there a race with +2 int and is small size?
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2012-08-20, 07:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OK so now is there a race with +2 int and is small size?
If you go with the Blue from Expanded Psionics Handbook (and ignore the errata and get GM permission), they're no LA, but are Small and have +2 INT.
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