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    I love how in panel 6, Wanda is just standing there, convinced that the arrows won't hit her. That's hardcore fatalism! At least that's how I see that panel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slayerx View Post
    Has rob said anything as such?... because personally, if Rob only handles the writing then i don't see what the delay would be from since i don't think it takes THAT long to write up a script for a single comic page. A script doesn't contain all the intricate details that the text updates would have, only the bare minimum; characters, dialogue, and actions. Frankly I would say the artwork for a single page would take much longer than the script of a single page

    granted, their could be some delays if Rob himself is a real stickler for details, and thus it takes a lot of back and forth between him and Xin before he approves of a page...
    Like Werf von Ehrwal said, the problem has been mostly on Rob's end. He even made a few announcements on the site about how he'd been having some sort of personal problems and how the publishing of the first book was putting him behind schedule. He didn't go into a lot of detail, but it was a problem delaying the writing, not the art.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePhantasm View Post
    Like Werf von Ehrwal said, the problem has been mostly on Rob's end. He even made a few announcements on the site about how he'd been having some sort of personal problems and how the publishing of the first book was putting him behind schedule. He didn't go into a lot of detail, but it was a problem delaying the writing, not the art.
    Ah, I see, I don't pay too close attention to the announcements, thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by slayerx View Post
    Ah, I see, I don't pay too close attention to the announcements, thanks
    Well, you should!

    There are VERY IMPORTANT news items that would otherwise be overlooked.
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    Text update!

    A funny one, 'specially the Hobgobwin's sensations.
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    Interesting, so you need only one level 1 warlord and 5 infantry to get from level 2 to 3 (at least). Warlords are really powerful units.
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    Well, King Slately has just quoted Grand Moff Tarkin's line from just before the Death Star blew up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destro_Yersul View Post
    Well, King Slately has just quoted Grand Moff Tarkin's line from just before the Death Star blew up.

    Jetstone is now officially screwed.
    At least spacerock is. When the parody material starts to reference something that happens in the original, it either blows it up to ludricious proportions, or hits you with the polar opposite. Thanks to the inherent FATE of proper storytelling, it's likely not the latter.

    But in terms of plot, its' not over and done with yet. Trem is about to bust out the "Unspoken Plan" which everybody knows is always a really good plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kagato23 View Post
    But in terms of plot, its' not over and done with yet. Trem is about to bust out the "Unspoken Plan" which everybody knows is always a really good plan.
    Pretty much. Trem's tactical mind, is now the only chance of jetstone to avoid being wiped out as a whole.
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    I suspect King Slately may end up croaked anyway--it would be interesting to see Tramennis survive as a barbarian with revenge on his mind, though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by factotum View Post
    I suspect King Slately may end up croaked anyway--it would be interesting to see Tramennis survive as a barbarian with revenge on his mind, though!
    I think it's pretty clear that Tramennis is not an heir to the Jetstone throne therefore the only thing that will happen if Slately it croaked is that he will freeze in time in Jetstone until somebody comes by and croaks him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Name_Here View Post
    I think it's pretty clear that Tramennis is not an heir to the Jetstone throne therefore the only thing that will happen if Slately it croaked is that he will freeze in time in Jetstone until somebody comes by and croaks him.
    If he's in the city, at least. Should he escape Spacerock before Slately is croaked, he might go barbarian instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Glyphstone View Post
    If he's in the city, at least. Should he escape Spacerock before Slately is croaked, he might go barbarian instead.
    Goes back to the fact that he is not a heir. If he is caught out in the open fields when Slately buys it he vanishes just like any other warlord caught out in the field. Da mussles survived because she was an heir Trammanis will vanish because he isn't.

    Hell they apparently don't even have the money to make Trammanis an heir. At least in Charlie's opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Name_Here View Post
    Goes back to the fact that he is not a heir. If he is caught out in the open fields when Slately buys it he vanishes just like any other warlord caught out in the field. Da mussles survived because she was an heir Trammanis will vanish because he isn't.

    Hell they apparently don't even have the money to make Trammanis an heir. At least in Charlie's opinion.
    Right, I forgot Jillian had heir status. So Trem is toast unless he can get Slately to safety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Glyphstone View Post
    Right, I forgot Jillian had heir status. So Trem is toast unless he can get Slately to safety.
    Do we actually know that for certain? Jillian might have survived simply because she was a Royal, not because she was an heir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by factotum View Post
    Do we actually know that for certain? Jillian might have survived simply because she was a Royal, not because she was an heir.
    Though I can't recall pages, i can say we are certain...
    A side ends when it has no ruler, and ALL units that are out in the field vanish. However, as an heir, Jillian's side did not technically truly end. She had on official side since she lacked a capitol, but all the units she had with in the field remained with her; though ofcourse they would eventually get disbannded when she could no longer pay the upkeep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by factotum View Post
    Do we actually know that for certain? Jillian might have survived simply because she was a Royal, not because she was an heir.
    In this page, Jillian tells Ansom she was popped as an heir. She has never not been an heir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by douglas View Post
    In this page, Jillian tells Ansom she was popped as an heir. She has never not been an heir.
    OK, but I was asking if any Royal might have survived their side falling, not if Jillian was an heir or not...

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    Well, the way Tramennis is acting, I'd say it's not something he wants to find out.
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    If the ruler is croaked and there is no heir, the side ends and any units in the field are disbanded. Units in cities are not... the cities go neutral (i.e., mindlessly hostile to all comers) and freeze in time unless and until units from an active side enter them. This is why Queen Bea marched all of her troops out of the city before she committed suicide by portal, so that Wanda would be denied their corpses for decryption, rather than having a neutral city to slaughter and reanimate.

    So if Slately is croaked, Tramennis and the other Jetstone units in Spacerock will survive, regardless of his status as heir. They'll even be able to continue fighting, because there'll be active Gobwin Knob units in the city. Unless Tram is promoted to heir before Slately's croaked, they won't be able to accomplish anything useful by it, though - the best they can do is kill off the GK units in Spacerock and then freeze in time until someone else drops by.

    Jillian's situation happened because she was heir and in the field when her ruler was croaked and their capital fell. Because there was a surviving heir, the side didn't end, but because they lost their capital, they lost all their support infrastructure except what money Jillian had in her purse. Without support, everything except what Jillian could personally handle disbanded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slayerx View Post
    Though I can't recall pages, i can say we are certain...
    A side ends when it has no ruler, and ALL units that are out in the field vanish. However, as an heir, Jillian's side did not technically truly end. She had on official side since she lacked a capitol, but all the units she had with in the field remained with her; though ofcourse they would eventually get disbannded when she could no longer pay the upkeep.
    If you're thinking of the update that I'm thinking of, that doesn't seem to be the case.

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    Mind you, the ordinary army went bye-bye:

    In the field there stood more than two thousand units of the Unaroyal army, camped, ready for the next day's battle, discussing and speculating why their Queen had opted to make their stand outside the city.

    Then, they vanished.

    The red and orange banners of the proud capital city turned a blank gray, and stopped waving.

    For the Queen had destroyed herself, and Unaroyal was no more.
    So maybe something with some sort of special ability survives? From the way the update was written, it doesn't seem that the mancers had been pleged to a specific side before Unaroyal dissolved itself.
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    I think you're missing an important foreshaddowed detail here.

    Charlie said he would pay 25k smuckers for a moving decrypted Archon, and comments on how that would be enough to promote Trems to heir.

    That wasn't just business talk if you ask me. Trems will capture an Archon, get Charlie's payment, and be promoted to heir, then escaping to fight another day (in the jetpack no less) while his father dies in some horrible acident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Porthos View Post
    If you're thinking of the update that I'm thinking of, that doesn't seem to be the case.

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    Casters seem to be a special case in all situations. Jack and Wanda survived the destruction of Faq just fine, and there are plenty of casters in the Magic Kingdom who seem to have no allegiance to any side. I'm not even sure if casters "pop" for sides like all other units do, or if they pop in the Magic Kingdom and get joined to particular sides through some other means!

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    Quote Originally Posted by factotum View Post
    Casters seem to be a special case in all situations. Jack and Wanda survived the destruction of Faq just fine, and there are plenty of casters in the Magic Kingdom who seem to have no allegiance to any side. I'm not even sure if casters "pop" for sides like all other units do, or if they pop in the Magic Kingdom and get joined to particular sides through some other means!
    Jack and Wanda were turned in the process of destroying/taking Faq and the side didn't truly end, what with Jillian being out in the field.

    As far as I can tell, casters are dependent upon the unique nature of the magic kingdom in order to survive their sides' fall.
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    Casters pop like other units do, and IIRC just happen instead of warlords sometimes, for reasons generally ascribed to Fate (i.e., no one really knows why). I think it was one of the Jill-centric text updates where that came up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Campbell View Post
    Casters pop like other units do, and IIRC just happen instead of warlords sometimes, for reasons generally ascribed to Fate (i.e., no one really knows why). I think it was one of the Jill-centric text updates where that came up.
    Yes, one of the Jillian klogs revealed that popping a warlord will occasionally instead pop a caster, apparently at random, and the chance of this happening seems to be much higher for a newly established side that doesn't yet have any casters. New sides will usually produce one caster in short order, then gradually accumulate more over long periods of time and large numbers of warlords. The klog notes that Jillian's reestablished FAQ side is an exception, with no caster yet despite popping several warlords, which I suspect is due to Jillian's own highly martial nature.
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