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    Default Re: [Steam] Thread XIX: It's a Kritzmas miracle!

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow_archmagi View Post
    Honestly? Inception was a pretty good movie and Rifftrax works best on really terrible movies.
    Eh, I always liked the Dark Knight 'Best Of Rifftrax' clip best of all the other 'Best Of's. And that's like my favorite movie ever.

    Second to Inception.
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    Default Re: [Steam] Thread XIX: It's a Kritzmas miracle!

    Completely unbeknownst to me, my roommate rented Inception to watch with his girlfriend today. He has it for one day only. So, I'm certainly going to be taking this opportunity to watch it. The only question you now have to ask yourself is if you want to tag along. Best estimates place movie time at around 3.5-4 hours from now. Yeah, it's super-late. Yeah, it's on a terrible day. Sorry, but it's the only opportunity I have.

    I'm thinking, maybe two weekends from now we'll rent Twilight and riff it up, so, you can look forward to that. And hey, I own Inceptrax, maybe I'll show it again sometime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tavar View Post
    Depends on the card, but on my nvidia card, going to the computer's control panel, then to the video card control panel. Then manage 3d settings, and you can create specific overrides for given programs. This allows you to, for instance, disable Anti-Alising. Can diminish the load a bit, given what tools you have to work with. Also a good idea is to lower resolution as much as possible.
    Tried it didn't work. So Steam's officially now 0:3 for working as intended.

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    What kind of graphic card do you have? And have you tried posting the error files up on Steam forums?
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    Tried it didn't work. So Steam's officially now 0:3 for working as intended.
    The game in question is the problem. Don't blame Steam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tavar View Post
    What kind of graphic card do you have? And have you tried posting the error files up on Steam forums?
    NVidia Geforce 310m is what the device manager tells me, and no I haven't because 1) I don't like Steam as a service. 2)Don't know where the error files are stored 3)I'm dealing with slowdowns and annoying graphical issues like shadows flickering every 1/15 a second, not outright crashes and 4)I know what caused the last two crashes my computer had because of the service and asking for help isn't worth it when the problem is solved by simply closing Steam.

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    The game in question is the problem. Don't blame Steam.
    Your probably right, the service itself has more than enough problems to earn it's own scorn, I don't need to hold a game they published against them. So 0:2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeful View Post
    Your probably right, the service itself has more than enough problems to earn it's own scorn, I don't need to a game they published against them. So 0:2.
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    Well, I think the problem might be that you system isn't quite powerful enough to run it.

    And, what are your problems with Steam? Just wondering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tavar View Post
    Well, I think the problem might be that you system isn't quite powerful enough to run it.

    And, what are your problems with Steam? Just wondering.
    I find Digital Download services to be annoying, since if you buy a game that is "sponsored" by that service you don't get anything related to the game you bought, simply a copy of client and the activation code, requiring a decent internet connection to play a AAA game the same day you buy it (which I don't have and can't afford). This is negative convenience. Further Steam itself has been the direct cause of two separate crashes on this system, one nearly crashing the computer itself, both times because Steam's programmer designed it to update the moment it detected an update rather than wait for system idle, which I know is possible to code in. Again negative convenience. Then there's the fact that if I want to play any Steam games, Steam has to load, which takes up memory that could be better used running the damn game than keeping it's services up. More negative convenience.

    I have received less than 0 benefit from installing and utilizing Steam in any fashion.

    Any wonder I consider it bad?

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    I have terrible internet and a terrible computer
    I uh, I hate to say this, but maybe PC gaming isn't really for you,then?
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    Default Re: [Steam] Thread XIX: It's a Kritzmas miracle!

    This is true. I mean, I'm not going to think stairs are awesome if I don't happen to have legs, but that doesn't mean they're not useful and beneficial. Just... not to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Linker View Post
    This is true. I mean, I'm not going to think stairs are awesome if I don't happen to have legs, but that doesn't mean they're not useful and beneficial. Just... not to me.
    Yeah, you're much better rocket-jumping to the second+ stories. Take that, Abraham Lincoln! In case you've forgotten, in TF2verse, rocketjumping was the precursor to stairs, which were invented by Abraham Lincoln, the world's first pyro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow_archmagi View Post
    I uh, I hate to say this, but maybe PC gaming isn't really for you,then?
    My computer is less than 6 months old, was bought for the express purpose of gaming and has 4 gigs of memory, more than enough to run several programs (including several tabs on my browser, including pulling and storing video files into the cache) in the background and play any game I enjoy with no performance issues. However running Steam in the background AND NOTHING ELSE has caused it to nearly crash my OS once and has caused fatal crashes in two other programs because it tried to update during play.

    PC gaming is certainly for me, Steam is not. I got it as a social tool to hang out with people here, but since I can't run it and actually play games at the same time, it's absolutely worthless for everything I want it to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Linker View Post
    This is true. I mean, I'm not going to think stairs are awesome if I don't happen to have legs, but that doesn't mean they're not useful and beneficial. Just... not to me.
    There is a reason ramps are universally accessible as entrance-ways in public buildings (at least in Canada). Just because stairs are great for the legged does not mean everyone has legs.

    Also, if you don't have legs, stairs don't fly up and smack you. Steam not only stops Tavar from playing due to needing an internet connection (legs, in the analogy) but actively crashes his computer.

    I seem to recall computer gaming being perfectly fine before you needed to have a reliable internet connection to play a game you went to the door and bought the disc for (specifically because you don't have a reliable internet connection). Sure, Steam isn't the only one, but it is the biggest and thus gets all the hate (Microsoft Syndrome).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    Also, if you don't have legs, stairs don't fly up and smack you.
    They're not supposed to?

    I may be hanging out in the wrong parts of town, then.

    Man, my neighborhood is tough.
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    Well, I think the solution is clear. Don't download Steam if you don't have legs.
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    Which would of course prevent someone from, say, playing the Orange Box until 2 years after they own the disc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    Which would of course prevent someone from, say, playing the Orange Box until 2 years after they own the disc.

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    Meh, I'm locked out of many modern Wii games (like Skyward Sword) because they lack left-handed support and I lack sufficient right-handed coordination and lateral thinking capacities to compensate, something I find a far worse tragedy than not being able to play a game that also happens to be released for one of the consoles.

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    It would be far too difficult to make left-handed controls for a right-handed character like Link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Worira View Post
    It would be far too difficult to make left-handed controls for a right-handed character like Link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeful View Post
    My computer is less than 6 months old, was bought for the express purpose of gaming and has 4 gigs of memory, more than enough to run several programs (including several tabs on my browser, including pulling and storing video files into the cache) in the background and play any game I enjoy with no performance issues. However running Steam in the background AND NOTHING ELSE has caused it to nearly crash my OS once and has caused fatal crashes in two other programs because it tried to update during play.

    PC gaming is certainly for me, Steam is not. I got it as a social tool to hang out with people here, but since I can't run it and actually play games at the same time, it's absolutely worthless for everything I want it to do.
    Dude, hate to be the one to break it to you, but a 310 isn't going to cut it to play games. It's a laptop GPU, which really aren't made to play PC games. RAM isn't everything. If your computer can't crunch the numbers fast enough, how much RAM you have isn't going to matter. More system specs would be really useful to properly address your issues. Steam is worthless to you because your computer cannot handle it. Steam is currently using about 35 MB of memory on my system. I can't believe it'd use much more other than launching a game. What exact problems are you having?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeful View Post
    not being able to play a game that also happens to be released for one of the consoles.
    I have a tendency to play PC games due to them being released on the PC. Being released on the Xbox, for example, does not help my lack of Xbox, nor my lack of playable PC game.

    Also, no left hand support is about as unreasonable as no colour-blind support, but annoyingly is about as common. Well, slightly less common due to Rock Band and Guitar Hero, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worira View Post
    It would be far too difficult to make left-handed controls for a right-handed character like Link.
    Given that in the Twilight Princess Wii port, they simply flipped everything so that Link, a Left-handed/semi-ambidextrous character in all other appearances, would be right-handed; no, not really. The fastest safest way to do it would simply be to write new control programming for the left-handed control scheme and then flip all the models and animations for Link's character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeful View Post
    Given that in the Twilight Princess Wii port, they simply flipped everything so that Link, a Left-handed/semi-ambidextrous character in all other appearances, would be right-handed; no, not really. The fastest safest way to do it would simply be to write new control programming for the left-handed control scheme and then flip all the models and animations for Link's character.
    I think he was being facetious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeful View Post
    Given that in the Twilight Princess Wii port, they simply flipped everything so that Link, a Left-handed/semi-ambidextrous character in all other appearances, would be right-handed; no, not really. The fastest safest way to do it would simply be to write new control programming for the left-handed control scheme and then flip all the models and animations for Link's character.
    Pro-tip: Worira was kidding. Hence my Doh ho ho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mightymonarch View Post
    Dude, hate to be the one to break it to you, but a 310 isn't going to cut it to play games. It's a laptop GPU, which really aren't made to play PC games. RAM isn't everything. If your computer can't crunch the numbers fast enough, how much RAM you have isn't going to matter. More system specs would be really useful to properly address your issues. Steam is worthless to you because your computer cannot handle it. Steam is currently using about 35 MB of memory on my system. I can't believe it'd use much more other than launching a game. What exact problems are you having?
    Have you tried deleting Clientregistry.blob from Program Files/Steam? This should potentially fix that issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mightymonarch View Post
    Dude, hate to be the one to break it to you, but a 310 isn't going to cut it to play games. It's a laptop GPU, which really aren't made to play PC games. RAM isn't everything. If your computer can't crunch the numbers fast enough, how much RAM you have isn't going to matter. More system specs would be really useful to properly address your issues. Steam is worthless to you because your computer cannot handle it. Steam is currently using about 35 MB of memory on my system. I can't believe it'd use much more other than launching a game. What exact problems are you having?
    Getting you more specs would take me better than an hour because I no longer have the sticker on top of my machine that extols all of it's virtues in the realm of computing power, but I can tell you that it has an Intel Core i5 520m if that helps.
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    Have you tried deleting Clientregistry.blob from Program Files/Steam? This should potentially fix that issue.
    What does the file do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeful View Post
    Getting you more specs would take me better than an hour because I no longer have the sticker on top of my machine that extols all of it's virtues in the realm of computing power, but I can tell you that it has an Intel Core i5 520m if that helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dispozition View Post
    Break things mostly it seems. Deleting it and restarting steam is a cure all for most things.
    If it doesn't, uh, you might have a more serious problem.

    Steam doesn't adversely effect my performance at all.. Like, at all. And I am not exactly running a high end rig.
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    Default Re: [Steam] Thread XIX: It's a Kritzmas miracle!

    Make sure you aren't running any of these programs.

    Also, have you removed all the unnecessary bloatware the comes pre-insalled? I feel this may be part of the issue.

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