S.E.U. VIII: Horrors on a Plane (Game Started)

[Murska]

News - There's been some problems on the Narrator's side of the Eyes group scry.

New data says Ramsus scries as a Fail.

[UncleWolf]

As for group organizer, I'd vote Murska before Lex at the moment. Even though I don't trust Murska, I trust Lex even less at the moment.

As pointed out, Lex is an experienced Werewolf player. Even made some of her own games, which were paranoid base as well(great games too). Personally, I see this move is equivalent to outing a careless baner. You simply don't. Not unless you plan on killing them somehow.

Right now, this gives us a serious problem. Even though GM hasn't confirmed, we now have to choose between scrying to our full ability but leaving a chance for GM to be attacked, or replacing one of those with a bane. And right now, we can't afford to lose even possible agents, so the latter is likely what's going to happen.

I just don't see this as an accident on her part. And since GM is going to be baned, I have a rather strong feeling that I'm going to be knocked off tonight. I don't particularly care if I am to be honest. I'm surprised I wasn't abducted night 1. It's normally a trend for me.

[Murska]

In other news, I suspect Tydude was abducted.

[Gray Mage]

Murska, if only because I trust the alternative less. The reason I'm not confirming the scry is because I don't see that information as usefull for town right now.

[Deathslayer7]

I'd want to organize the groups again myself, of course. Since we don't have a confirmed agent, I'm the only one I trust. I also got myself scried last night, though a fail disturb is quite possible it's still a risk for a horror.

Anyway. There's no way a horror will ever decide that you're not an Agent - they'll just auto-assume you are and act accordingly. Therefore, I'd organize a bane group for you anyway. Remember, everyone, this game revolves around gathering public information, keeping things secret from the wolves is only worth it if said information can't help the general public.

I would just like to remind everyone that the last time Murska tried to take control of groups, he turned out to be a horror. So I suggest it switches every day.

[happyturtle]

But the first time he did, I killed him night one to keep the village from having a smart head organizing things. So really, him wanting to do the organizing is what he'd do whether he's good or evil.

Anyway, I'm going to trust Murska's hunch and go with Saposhiente

[Murska]

Hmm. If I remember correctly, I've been a horror from the beginning twice, both of which the Horrors lost and both of which I offered to organize the game in. I've also been a townie for my entire lifespan on all of the other games I've been in, won a couple and lost a couple, mainly died during the first two day/night phases and offered to organize every time. I've never organized the groups in a way that'd hurt the town, even when I was a Horror. Since the actions are made public, the only time that would make sense is if I would be able to merge that same night.

Generally, if I am a horror, I don't want to merge right away. Call me selfish, but I like playing the game.

[Deathslayer7]

Hmm. If I remember correctly, I've been a horror from the beginning twice, both of which the Horrors lost and both of which I offered to organize the game in. I've also been a townie for my entire lifespan on all of the other games I've been in, won a couple and lost a couple, mainly died during the first two day/night phases and offered to organize every time. I've never organized the groups in a way that'd hurt the town, even when I was a Horror. Since the actions are made public, the only time that would make sense is if I would be able to merge that same night.

Generally, if I am a horror, I don't want to merge right away. Call me selfish, but I like playing the game.

I believe you used the exact same argument as last time and I remember Murska. I too have organized before.

Oh and I do confirm that we scried Ramsus as a Flight Risk.

[Murska]

So, you agree that me organizing or not not only has nothing to do with whether or not I'm a Horror but also me being or not being a Horror doesn't affect my organization?

[Deathslayer7]

So, you agree that me organizing or not not only has nothing to do with whether or not I'm a Horror but also me being or not being a Horror doesn't affect my organization?

Yes and no. As you said. Your organization groups are fine enough. But I don't want one person doing it everyday. AS to whether or not you would make the same groups as a horror. Probably, but if you knew we were gunning for you, I know you would try to have everyone scry or bane someone else so you could merge.

As for wanting to play, I could understand that, but there's a point where everyone sooner or later has the spotlight on them.

But for now you can go ahead and organize the groups. Tomorrow though someone else should.

[happyturtle]

I'm okay with anyone organizing the groups except Lex, for reasons Wolfy states, or me, because I'm all sickly and stuff. And it should be changed up every day.

And where the heck is the flight attendant? I pushed the call button twenty minutes ago! I want another blanket, dammit!

[Murska]

Heh, well, I doubt I'll get to organize groups if I'm under suspicion. I already got myself scried - I'll do it again at some point by a more trustworthy team if we get one and it proves prudent.

Anyway - we'd need to decide the lynch. In my opinion, the most suspicious people are Saposhiente, Lex, Sanity and Horoar in that order.

[Deathslayer7]

I'll attest to the fact that I dragged sanity away last night thats probably why he never responded.

anyway Saposhiente because I found him suspicious too.

[Gray Mage]

Heh, well, I doubt I'll get to organize groups if I'm under suspicion. I already got myself scried - I'll do it again at some point by a more trustworthy team if we get one and it proves prudent.

Anyway - we'd need to decide the lynch. In my opinion, the most suspicious people are Saposhiente, Lex, Sanity and Horoar in that order.

Mind if I ask why Sanity?

[Trixie]

I'm probably overlooking some people, but I don't see Trixie today.

*shock* Someone remembers I exist! o_O

Just as a reminder. And curse you zombies, you could have cleared me (not really, but gotten me a step closer anyway) by now.

*shock**shock* Someone read what I wrote! O_o

Anyway, Horoar. That explanation doesn't work, IMHO.

And LexKat. For two reasons - wolf or not, Lex is nowhere near as schemy as Murska. I haven't seen even one game with Lex where Kat did anywhere near as much damage as someone actively malicious would. In fact, I never saw Lex doing any big damage to village, even as a wolf (as she tends to be very passive in evil roles).

TL/DR - She is a very good organizer, and there's nothing stopping us from scrying Lex today.

Of course, I'd be even better, but I simply don't have the time :P

Second reason - Murska. Wants. The. Job. No no nononono. This request has more red flags than Kremlin in 1945.

[Gray Mage]

Anyway, Horoar. That explanation doesn't work, IMHO.

And LexKat. For two reasons - wolf or not, Lex is nowhere near as schemy as Murska. I haven't seen even one game with Lex where Kat did anywhere near as much damage as someone actively malicious would. In fact, I never saw Lex doing any big damage to village, even as a wolf (as she tends to be very passive in evil roles).

TL/DR - She is a very good organizer, and there's nothing stopping us from scrying Lex today.

Of course, I'd be even better, but I simply don't have the time :P

Second reason - Murska. Wants. The. Job. No no nononono. This request has more red flags than Kremlin in 1945.

Well, if you'd like a third option, I could do it. I also think Internet Flea might be a good one, since he seems to have some pretty good common sense for this game.

Edit: This also leaves Tydude as our last abduction suspect.

[Murska]

Mind if I ask why Sanity?

Hm. Well maybe not him. His post is just kind of 'I'm not paying much attention. Point at this guy, since I notice some others are.' ish.

EDIT: Gray Mage is okay. Internet Flea I fear would actually put up multiple banes instead of full-on heavy duty scrying action. Which would be bad.

[Gray Mage]

Hm. Well maybe not him. His post is just kind of 'I'm not paying much attention. Point at this guy, since I notice some others are.' ish.

EDIT: Gray Mage is okay. Internet Flea I fear would actually put up multiple banes instead of full-on heavy duty scrying action. Which would be bad.

Ok, so Gray Mage.

I'd take out Sanity from that list and add Deathslayer and Ramsus, but at a lower wolf reading. The top is Lex right now.

[Deathslayer7]

Ok, so Gray Mage.

I'd take out Sanity from that list and add Deathslayer and Ramsus, but at a lower wolf reading. The top is Lex right now.

oh. And so my reputation starts again. Why might I ask?

[Horoar]

I think I'm good with Gray Mage

[Gray Mage]

oh. And so my reputation starts again. Why might I ask?

Just general uneasiness, I suppose. Add Irbis as well. For the lynch, Lex-Kat .

[Lord Loss]

For the group coordinator, I'd say Gray Mage.

I'm going to openly state that I distrust Murska right now. Maybe you're a FAIL, maybe not, but you're generally really good at acting just wolfy enough to give the wolves an advantage (influencing people and stuff) but not enough to attract mass lynch...

[Elder Tsofu]

I'll instead change to Murska, he's led me to fun games before.
i.e. I'll follow what he says, and into the groups he form. You others can keep your horrors.

[Murska]

For the group coordinator, I'd say Gray Mage.

I'm going to openly state that I distrust Murska right now. Maybe you're a FAIL, maybe not, but you're generally really good at acting just wolfy enough to give the wolves an advantage (influencing people and stuff) but not enough to attract mass lynch...

I'm generally very good at influencing people. Whether or not it helps the wolves depends on which team I'm in.

[Deathslayer7]

I should make it official. Murska

[billtodamax]

Murska or Gray Mage. Call it a half vote if you want, I just don't mind which of these two organises.

Oh, and Saposhiente because I'm reasonably sure I haven't voted yet.

[Irbis]

Add Irbis as well.

What did I do?

Eh, Lex, looks like they don't like us round these parts :P

[Wizibirb]

Heh, well, I doubt I'll get to organize groups if I'm under suspicion. I already got myself scried - I'll do it again at some point by a more trustworthy team if we get one and it proves prudent.

Anyway - we'd need to decide the lynch. In my opinion, the most suspicious people are Saposhiente, Lex, Sanity and Horoar in that order.

I am glad some people defended me... Thank you Gray Mage, and Deathslayer.

The reason I have not been really active is the fact that I am running a game starting up another, and been swamped with RL activities, So apologies I shall endevaor to pay more attention.

[Gray Mage]

What did I do?

Eh, Lex, looks like they don't like us round these parts :P

I'm still waiting for the "few reasons". Of course, it's not only because of that, you're also a bit too defending of Lex without any visible reason, although that could be just the way you play.

[Ramsus]

Saposhiente. Oh and why not have me organize the groups for now? It's a waste of time for the wolves to kill me and we don't want me in any groups anyway.