General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal

[Lix Lorn]

Also, the scene in the back of the MoEP:DB between The Roseblack and her grandfather, is there an official/semi official destination for her orders? Or is it another of those whatever the ST wants?

I believe comics are non-canon.
...unless the ST says otherwise. OfC.

[Lochar]

Ah. Trying to decide what to spend my 18 bonus points and 40 xp on for a game, and I would like to raise my DB's essence to 3 pre-game. It's 10 BP or 20 xp, so I'm trying to decide which is more valuable.


Also, the scene in the back of the MoEP:DB between The Roseblack and her grandfather, is there an official/semi official destination for her orders? Or is it another of those whatever the ST wants?

Note however that you can't pick up Essence 3 charms at creation if you decide to use XP to get Essence 3, as XP is past character creation. So you'd have to spend part of the 40 XP on your Essence 3 Charms.

[IcarusWings]

Just a note, the aforementioned Kingdom Hearts game is up. And I'll working on a homebrew Heart Caste for all the stuff on the homebrew boards pretty soon.

[TheCountAlucard]

Suggestions on naming a Combo for the Shoat of the Mire?

It's a Combo of Flickering Wisp Technique (the Abyssal perfect Dodge) + Uncanny Impulse Evasion (their surprise-negator) + Five Birds, One Stone (a Thrown Extra Action Charm) + Iron Clutch of the Raptor (a Thrown perfect parry + Counterattack Charm) + Aid of Ill Wind (the Mirror of Triple-Distance Attack Technique).

[The Rose Dragon]

Master of the Razor Storm Kata!

I think my favorite combo name I came up with was God-Forged Behemoth Felling Atemi, but that doesn't fit this combo.

[golentan]

Limitless Talons of the Agile Raptor? Untouchable Shadow Shurikens?

[Jokasti]

Nobody Can Touch Me While I Cry And Write Clichéd Emo Poetry In The Corner But If You Try To My Bloodstained Tears Will Rise From My Bone White Face And Attempt To Cut You Seriously Though You Can't Touch This

[The Rose Dragon]

Nobody Can Touch Me While I Cry And Write Clichéd Emo Poetry In The Corner But If You Try To My Bloodstained Tears Will Rise From My Bone White Face And Attempt To Cut You Seriously Though You Can't Touch This

Too Green Sun Prince.

[Jokasti]

Too Green Sun Prince.

You're right, you could touch an Abyssal, but not a GSP.

[Lix Lorn]

Is that an angry terrestrial in here or did someone just get /BURNT/

[Tavar]

Note however that you can't pick up Essence 3 charms at creation if you decide to use XP to get Essence 3, as XP is past character creation. So you'd have to spend part of the 40 XP on your Essence 3 Charms.

Point. But so far, I'm mainly looking at Excellencies and charms at the start of trees, so that isn't an issue.

I believe comics are non-canon.
...unless the ST says otherwise. OfC.

You're right, they are. Perhaps it would be better to say if that plot path had been expanded at all.

[Jokasti]

I would wager to fight that independent legion general in the South who seceded from the Empire. I can't remember off the top of my head, but I think the details are in CoTD:South.

[SurlySeraph]

Suggestions on naming a Combo for the Shoat of the Mire?

It's a Combo of Flickering Wisp Technique (the Abyssal perfect Dodge) + Uncanny Impulse Evasion (their surprise-negator) + Five Birds, One Stone (a Thrown Extra Action Charm) + Iron Clutch of the Raptor (a Thrown perfect parry + Counterattack Charm) + Aid of Ill Wind (the Mirror of Triple-Distance Attack Technique).

Bone Mist Hail?

[TheCountAlucard]

Heeey, yooouuu guuuys...

EDIT: Also, I like "Master of the Razor Storm Kata" most so far. Thanks.

[Jokasti]

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188709
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189414
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=186361
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187077
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187948
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189363
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188659
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185896
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=186288
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188258
Since I CBF to format it or anything on my phone. This just reminds me I need to work on my Primordial. I love it and I hate it. Mostly love though.

[tonberrian]

If I weren't trying to get my life together (job, girl, etc.) I would totally work on my Heretic.

Absolutely.

No doubt at all.

I would seriously be finishing it off in the near future.

Umm...

Look over there! Shiny!

Edit: Okay, so last night I had the absolute most amazing Exalted-esque dream ever (lot of Exalted setting details, but the tech level was much higher).

Then I promptly forgot most of it when I woke up ().

Among the cool things done were utterly annihilating a Deathlord as a casual thing, foiling a revivication of Malfeas, using the pit of Oblivion as my personal locker (after stealing the idea from aforementioned Deathlord), and hiding a ridiculously powerful artifact in a box whose location was designated inside itself. There was also something that caused utter madness in whoever tried to comprehend it, which I succumbed to, put myself back from, and negated somehow, but unrelated to the artifact above. I think that the madness thing had something to do with the revivication plot. This was all part of the third big adventure of a teacher at an academy, who was getting quite cocky about the whole saving the world thing. His day job was basically showing up all the other professers, because he was kind of a little Richard.

It was more awesome when I dreamed it, I swear.

[Lochar]

Alright, question about Charm vs Sorcery.

Glorious Solar Saber. We'll use the Speed 5 version of the blade.

For 6 motes, 1 willpower you get a previously determined blade that has Melee x2 points split between Acc, Defense, and Lethal damage. Rate 5 The blade lasts one scene and is Holy.

Requirements: 1 prereq charm and this one, Melee 4, Essence 3.

Wood Dragon's Claw. Speed 5 claw.

For 10 motes, 1 willpower you get a variable unarmed martial arts attack that lets you divide 15 points between Acc, Defense, Lethal Damage, and Rate. The claw lasts until you dismiss it.

Requirements: Emerald Sorcery, this spell, Occult 3, Essence 3.


Alright, minus to obvious fact that the claw stands out, how is you can get a better weapon for almost everything other than "Obvious Magic User" for a silly 4 extra motes? To get even close to Wood Dragon, you need Melee 5, and then you're still 5 points off of Wood Dragon. And no, I'm not counting rating Wood Dragon's rate above 3, because anything above 3 attacks you're likely using an Extra Action charm anyways.


So, I'd like to propose an upgrade Charm for Glorious Solar Saber.

Triumphant Sunblade
Costs: -(+4m) ; Mins: Melee 5, Essence 3; Type: Permanent
Keywords: None
Prerequisite Charms: Glorious Solar Saber

Truly, the Solars are the pinnacle of their craft, regardless of what it is. In this case, it is the art of combat.

This Charm upgrades its prerequisite, adding a number of points the Solar may split between Accuracy, Defense, and Lethal damage on the weapon by their Melee skill plus their Essence. Therefore, the Speed 3 Saber gains (Meleex2 + Essence) points to distribute, and the Speed 5 Saber gains (Meleex3 + Essence) points to distribute. All previous purchases of Glorious Solar Saber may immediately be redesigned.

Calling forth such a powerful blade increases the cost of the saber by four motes, to a total of ten motes and one willpower. The Solar may spend an additional four motes as normal to summon paired blades, which makes the total 14 motes plus one willpower. If he has multiple versions of Glorious Solar Saber, a different blade may be called and is still considered paired.

Blades of different speed are always considered to use the higher of the two speeds for attacks.

[tonberrian]

GSS was errata'd, now it creates a basic artifact weapon with nifty Overdrive motes.

[Lochar]

orly?

Gotta go look that up, apparently. Off to the wiki!

[Tavar]

Actually, there's an errata'd version of Glorious Solar Saber.

Glorious Solar Saber
(p. 192)
Cost: 3m, 1wp or 5m, 1wp
Replace the text of this Charm with the following:
The Essence of the Lawgiver manifests in a gleaming blade
of the sun. This blade is always a glowing weapon that inflicts
aggravated damage to creatures of darkness and sheds light as
bright as a torch. The Exalt can summon this weapon to her
hand from anywhere it has fallen, as a diceless, miscellaneous
action.
The character defines the form of her weapon upon purchasing
this Charm. Statistically, the weapon has traits equal
to single or paired basic 1, 2 or 3-dot close-range orichalcum
artifact weapon (such as a daiklave, grimcleaver, or direlance)
of the player’s choice. Paired 1-dot weapons or a singular 2-dot
weapon costs 3m. Paired 2-dot weapons or a single 3-dot weapon
costs 5m. “Brawling aides” such as smashfists are not valid
forms.
Players wishing to have multiple options may purchase this
Charm a number of times equal to their character’s Melee
score, creating a different weapon with each purchase.
If the character possesses an Overdrive pool, she gains one
offensive mote to that pool each action while she is actively
wielding Glorious Solar Saber. The character must be in battle
to benefit from the one mote drip. She may only benefit from
one drip from weaponry at a time.

Also, to cast the spell, don't you need to take 1 shape sorcery action? If you're in battle, that's pretty deadly.

[Lochar]

Yeah, but the sorcery lasts forever. If you're willing to walk around with a dragon claw, you don't have to bother casting it in battle.


And I'm not still fully convinced about the errata'd version. You could still use Wood Dragon claw as a +15 Defense item, and then wield another weapon in the other hand. I was trying to capture some of that in my upgraded Charm.

[Tavar]

That seems to be more of a problem with the spell than the charm.

[Lochar]

Yes, but I'd like something with more than +3 Defense on it. Dex+Dodge+Essence is much higher than Dex+Melee+Weapon Defense in most cases.

*shrug*

Think I can get away with paired weapons having different stats? I'm trying to build something like a Musketeer, with a primary weapon and a main gauche for defense.

[horngeek]

But... Overdrive motes! Given Exalted Paranoia combat, that becomes a LOT more valuable than a better-statted weapon.

[Lochar]

One mote per action. Given Exalted Paranoia, three actions is 9 ticks. That's one free Seven Shadows every 9 ticks. Combat until you get into the stupid high essence perfect attack/perfect defense game is over in about 15-25 ticks. *shrug*

To each their own. I'd use the errata version if I could pair different two dot weapons, so I could have something with at least a decent defense.

Ascetics.

[Indon]

Also, Lochar, the non-Errata'd version is superior to Wood Dragon Claw if you make two weapons, because you can allocate that pool independently per weapon.

From there, you designate one weapon as your parrying weapon and put all its' points into Defense.

Now you're effectively getting 4xmelee points for your weapons, half of which is going solely into your Defense.

Think I can get away with paired weapons having different stats? I'm trying to build something like a Musketeer, with a primary weapon and a main gauche for defense.

Yes, the system supports this, and the GSS borderline exploit I describe above is dependent on it.

[Lochar]

True. And even using the Speed 3 weapons gives a Defense+5 parrying weapon, which is pretty much what I was looking for.

[Tavar]

Hmm. I've seen people putting up graphical charm tree's up, and they tend to look very nice. Is it just experience with graphical programs, or is there a shortcut out there?

[Indon]

Hmm. I've seen people putting up graphical charm tree's up, and they tend to look very nice. Is it just experience with graphical programs, or is there a shortcut out there?

What format do they look like? Because I know Anathema has the ability to graphically display charm trees.

[Tavar]

True, but it only does charms in it's database, and it's really hard to add new ones. I'm looking for a way to easily make a tree. Can't find many right now, though there is this.