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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiftmongoose View Post
    The cleric's not evil.
    How do you know? Janine should get Lloyd out there, although even if he does detect not evil, that's no guarantee he's good for their welfare, at least it's a start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devmaar View Post
    How do you know? Janine should get Lloyd out there, although even if he does detect not evil, that's no guarantee he's good for their welfare, at least it's a start.
    Even then, there are plenty of ways to prevent detect evil from detecting whether you're evil or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyuubi View Post
    Even then, there are plenty of ways to prevent detect evil from detecting whether you're evil or not.
    That shows up as "no reading" rather than "not evil".

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    Suspicious cleric is suspicious...
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    hmmmmm.....

    is taking care of homeless children....

    suddenly cleric shows up, claims their parents are assassinated and that he needs to take them away immediately.

    Yea, I wouldn't trust him. It sounds like he was the assassin, he is in disguise and he is going to kill them once she is far enough away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Raziere View Post
    hmmmmm.....

    is taking care of homeless children....

    suddenly cleric shows up, claims their parents are assassinated and that he needs to take them away immediately.

    Yea, I wouldn't trust him. It sounds like he was the assassin, he is in disguise and he is going to kill them once she is far enough away.
    Why would an assassin care about two homeless children? And none of that "destined to" stuff.
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    Why would an assassin care about two homeless children? And none of that "destined to" stuff.
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    Plus, Janine has issues with Clerics and kids, remember?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiftmongoose View Post
    Why would an assassin care about two homeless children? And none of that "destined to" stuff.
    Herpests right. destined to indeed.

    cause sooner or alter they start asking the question "who're m'parents?" "where'd I come from?" "why am I an erphun?" that eventually leads thme to to their homeland which leads them to the overlord which leads to the Truth and leads to overthrowing.

    that and in medieval times, blood was very important. to them blood = divine right to rule. no blood left, no divine right, vacuum for some else to claim a new divine right under their blood and establish a new dynasty. meaning the long lost prince thing is a little more threatening than you think, cause while they probably aren't that bad or anything, people say like......Littlefinger....who could take advantage of that, use them and their divine right as a puppet for their own rule.

    so yeah. thats why he would care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiftmongoose View Post
    Why would an assassin care about two homeless children? And none of that "destined to" stuff.
    Because someone paid him to eliminate the whole family? Assassins don't kill because they have ulterior motives, they kill because someone else has ulterior motives. Without knowing who hired the assassin we can't know their motives so we have no idea how they're related to those kids dying. Just because we haven't seen the reason doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Raziere View Post
    hmmmmm.....

    is taking care of homeless children....

    suddenly cleric shows up, claims their parents are assassinated and that he needs to take them away immediately.

    Yea, I wouldn't trust him. It sounds like he was the assassin, he is in disguise and he is going to kill them once she is far enough away.

    Been done too many times i think. From what i know of coffie, she likes to avoid, bend, and twist Tropes as much as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiftmongoose View Post
    The cleric's not evil.
    Says who?
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    Maybe he wants to keep the kids under his thumb instead of killing them. If their parents were assassinated, they might have held political power, which Cyrus and Lucille are set to inherit. As their guardian, the cleric would be able to gain their trust and influence how they rule as adults.

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    You know, he could genuinely be who he says he is too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marnath View Post
    You know, he could genuinely be who he says he is too.
    Yes but the consequences of believing he is when he isn't are much worse than the consequences of believing he isn't when he is.

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    The cleric's not evil.
    How d'you know? Does Janine know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devmaar View Post
    Yes but the consequences of believing he is when he isn't are much worse than the consequences of believing he isn't when he is.
    Exactly. Even if she wakes the children up and asks them whether they know this guy, there's still the chance he pretended to be a friend of the family while secretly planning to kill off the parents and get his hands on the orphans.

    We'll see.

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    I accept that there could be some sort of truly grim reality behind this new cleric but as far as my own immediate reaction to the update goes?

    I may be jumping the gun here, but I think Janine may have just found the potential "someone" I was hoping for her to find...
    Think we're a little too early in the storyline for anything big to come of it yet though so...Meh. This could be the beginings of a genuine breakthrough for Janine though... (This is weird, because I'm hoping for this and I'm usually a very anti-romance type person. I must be going soft or something )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marnath View Post
    You know, he could genuinely be who he says he is too.
    Yeah, but then speculation is boooooooring
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleanor_Rigby View Post
    Also: Lix? Someone, somewhere might just have heard your demand for a false bearded Radic image... but who am I to say? [/OMINOUS]
    Ooooh, I wonder who? <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gicko View Post
    Been done too many times i think. From what i know of coffie, she likes to avoid, bend, and twist Tropes as much as possible.
    guy, it ain't about the tropes, its about the story, to think that a writer will do that just because of the trope thing is kinda foolish in my opinion.

    that and when you become used to surprising people, wouldn't the biggest surprise at some point be not to surprise them?
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    Exactly. Even if she wakes the children up and asks them whether they know this guy, there's still the chance he pretended to be a friend of the family while secretly planning to kill off the parents and get his hands on the orphans.

    We'll see.
    What the hell?

    Some homeless, starving kids appear. "They're probably faking as part of a con."

    A cleric offers to take them in. "He's probably the one who orphaned them in the first place and he's going to kill them!"

    The first one, I could understand...but the second one just comes out of left field. Yes, it's unlikely that an old friend just happened to come by. It's just as unlikely that an assassin who killed their parents would just happen by.

    It's like you're exploiting the limits of probability to think of horrible things that could happen.

    Seriously, what is there to suggest that the cleric isn't just a way to give some sort of happy ending to this part of the story and let Janine carry on the rest of the plot?

    I'm most interested in the fact he mentioned a Fire Temple. More background on the religions of Aquear...but what is it? Is he really a druid and "cleric" is just a name denoting his place in a hierarchy? Is there any deity associated with this temple or just the abstract concept of "Fire" and "Light" in general? Are there temples for other elements that keep in contact with one another?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raging Gene Ray View Post
    What the hell?

    Some homeless, starving kids appear. "They're probably faking as part of a con."

    A cleric offers to take them in. "He's probably the one who orphaned them in the first place and he's going to kill them!"

    The first one, I could understand...but the second one just comes out of left field. Yes, it's unlikely that an old friend just happened to come by. It's just as unlikely that an assassin who killed their parents would just happen by.

    It's like you're exploiting the limits of probability to think of horrible things that could happen.

    Seriously, what is there to suggest that the cleric isn't just a way to give some sort of happy ending to this part of the story and let Janine carry on the rest of the plot?

    I'm most interested in the fact he mentioned a Fire Temple. More background on the religions of Aquear...but what is it? Is he really a druid and "cleric" is just a name denoting his place in a hierarchy? Is there any deity associated with this temple or just the abstract concept of "Fire" and "Light" in general? Are there temples for other elements that keep in contact with one another?
    There were four elementals involved in the story about the creation of the world. They helped make Salblaze and the other dragon. One of them was a fire elemental.
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    Have I really made you guys that paranoid?

    He's the cleric of one of the for Elemental Gods who helped make the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeIncluded View Post
    Have I really made you guys that paranoid?

    He's the cleric of one of the for Elemental Gods who helped make the world.
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    I think we outsmarted ourselves mostly.
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    It's just not a decent world without elemental gods IMO :P
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    The first one, I could understand...but the second one just comes out of left field. Yes, it's unlikely that an old friend just happened to come by. It's just as unlikely that an assassin who killed their parents would just happen by.

    It's like you're exploiting the limits of probability to think of horrible things that could happen.

    Seriously, what is there to suggest that the cleric isn't just a way to give some sort of happy ending to this part of the story and let Janine carry on the rest of the plot?
    Well, isn't it a remarkable coincidence that an old friend of the children's family should just happen to be there and never have noticed them until now, that they are already being taken care of?

    If you ever read "A Series of Unfortunate Events" you'll understand why I suspect that guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeIncluded View Post
    Have I really made you guys that paranoid?

    He's the cleric of one of the for Elemental Gods who helped make the world.
    Aw man. Does this mean my pet theory of "new cleric is an (eventual) romantic interest/foil for Janine" is out? ...No wait - don't tell me. I want to watch and find out!

    ...I am very open to gentle hints about how wrong I am with that guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by Themrys View Post
    Well, isn't it a remarkable coincidence that an old friend of the children's family should just happen to be there and never have noticed them until now, that they are already being taken care of?

    If you ever read "A Series of Unfortunate Events" you'll understand why I suspect that guy.
    In fairness to Coffee/the story, I thought this was rather a neat coincidence too (as in, a little too tidy) but upon re-reading my take on the situation is as follows: the reason old family friend has been reunited with the twins is that he was in the area in the first place because he was actively searching them having heard of their parents' fate and was able to take an educated guess as to their whereabouts sure it's a little convenient story-wise that he only actually found them after he'd stopped looking and once Janine appeared on the scene, but once you examine the whole picture the situation is hardly entirely untrue to life. (Not that anyone actually said it was, I'm jus' sayin'...)
    My gut feeling is that this guy is pretty much legit.
    ...there again that was essentially what I thought about Rust until the strip where it became abundantly and undeniably clear that he was bad news, so take from that what you will!
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    Well, of course something like this could happen in real life. Coincidences happen, and as you pointed out, he has a reason to be where he is.
    However, since this is a work of fiction, and such coincidences often turn out to be traps in fiction, I am paranoid about that stranger.
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