LGBTAitp - Part Twelve

[Coidzor]

Guy clothes are supposed to do what now? O_O

...what.

On a more serious note, do they actually make guy pants that fit any9one not wearing them below their knees?

Yes. Go browse the blue jean section of a department store and examine the various cuts of blue jean. Even Walmart will have some form of explanation of how the styles differ.

If you're still having trouble getting clothes that fit your waist and accomodate your legs, then a belt might be in order... or you'll need to find a specialty store/website if not even that works.

[Mina Kobold]

...what.

'Twas a joke, granola.

I may have a bad sense of humour but it does exist.

Yes. Go browse the blue jean section of a department store and examine the various cuts of blue jean. Even Walmart will have some form of explanation of how the styles differ.

If you're still having trouble getting clothes that fit your waist and accomodate your legs, then a belt might be in order... or you'll need to find a specialty store/website if not even that works.

There's styles? I just try whatever pair I think looks groovy and most of the time they're way too loose around the waist or too tight around the legs.

I always use a belt... I thought that was normal. ^_^'

[22Charisma]

Don't get me wrong, people like this drive me crazy too, but what does being out to "Everyone" vs. only some people have to do with anything?

In my case, being out hinders me professionally, unfortunately. Also, my family is made up of crazy pentecostal fundamentalist Christians (like, speaking in tongues). No offense to anyone else that is, but I don't really want to share that part of my life with them if it means that our being together has to stop or always be extremely painful. I don't see why it matters who you decide to trust with this personal information.

Seriously though, people that have a "gay" personality because they found out they are gay and didn't have a personality to begin with, man that's just kinda sad.

-And yes I'd be super pissed if someone outed me to the wrong person. It's happened to me several times to people I didn't really mind knowing but it still bothered me, but if it was to my immediate family or my private teachers it would be a catastrophe.

Ok, my fault, I don't think I explained myself well. What I'm talking about is for example:

One of the guys that lived here in the dorms is a drag queen(Out of all the guys that lived here he was actually one of the ones I was fond of). So he's super gay, yadda, yadda, yadda. He always introduces himself by his drag name and is always hitting on the guys at the dorms, what evs. One (specific) time his mom calls the counter and the kid working at the counter calls out to him by his drag name, and he gets really mad at the kid because his mom was still on the line. Point being, if you're in the closet and don't want to come out for whatever reason, fine that's okay, you shouldn't come out until you're ready. But don't be a beacon of gay stereotypes and then get mad if/when it blows up in your face.

(As for the steretype things, honestly I'm a bit effeminate, but I actually tend to fit straight stereotypes better than gay stereotypes. I suck at being gay. :( )

[Mecharious]

(As for the steretype things, honestly I'm a bit effeminate, but I actually tend to fit straight stereotypes better than gay stereotypes. I suck at being gay. :( )

Haha, I've been told that before. It really sucks being gay, but not really part of the gay community. I tried going to an on-campus LGBT meeting, but I felt really uncomfortable... well, I did meet a few cool lesbians

[22Charisma]

Haha, I've been told that before. It really sucks being gay, but not really part of the gay community. I tried going to an on-campus LGBT meeting, but I felt really uncomfortable... well, I did meet a few cool lesbians

I went to an LGBT meeting and they told me that since I was gay I couldn't have a man crush on Neil Patrick Harris, that that was just a regular crush. So then I asked if I could have Man crushes on girls, but then apparently the topic wasn't productive or something and they changed it. :(

I LOVE lesbians for some unknown reason. More than once has a foray into clubs/bars wandered into me getting drunk and almost making out with a lesbian.

Maybe I'M a lesbian?

[Heliomance]

So there were guys on campus today with petitions for the whole gay marriage thing that's going down in Britland atm. They seemed quite taken aback when my response to being asked for a signature was an immediate "Yeah, sure."

[Jokasti]

So there were guys on campus today with petitions for the whole gay marriage thing that's going down in Britland atm. They seemed quite taken aback when my response to being asked for a signature was an immediate "Yeah, sure."

You should've asked for a John Hancock instead.

[Coidzor]

You should've asked for a John Hancock instead.

Well, there's an interesting question. Would any britlanders get that reference?

[golentan]

Well, there's an interesting question. Would any britlanders get that reference?

Well, it was written to them. Or perhaps "at them" is a better description. But I'd guess not so much.

So, I was watching a comedy the other day, and some of the comments in show were being called "horribly homophobic" and I was rolling off my chair laughing (as was the gay character in show). And I was wondering if this actually happened to anyone, where someone leaps to your defense unnecessarily?

[Danne]

Good to know.

Also, I agree totally on Ari and Janco. So much.

I am kind of disappointed that she hasn't written any more for that series. The setting was really cool, and I would love to see some coverage of different places and stuff.

Eh? There's a whole other series after the Study trilogy. I believe the first book is called something like Storm Glass. Haven't read it, though.

[unosarta]

Eh? There's a whole other series after the Study trilogy. I believe the first book is called something like Storm Glass. Haven't read it, though.

WHAT?

Where? When? Why? HOW DID I NOT KNOW?!

Just checked Mrs. Snyder's Wiki. Thank you so much for letting me know.

[Dire Moose]

Haha, I've been told that before. It really sucks being gay, but not really part of the gay community. I tried going to an on-campus LGBT meeting, but I felt really uncomfortable... well, I did meet a few cool lesbians

There was an LGBT club on campus, but they hadn't updated their website in years and never really advertised their events much so I didn't get to do anything with them. To me, it was basically, "Well, I'm bisexual. But any guys who would be into me seem to be hiding. Bleh."

I figure they were probably, like every other college group in existence, advertising on Facebook (where I have never made an account and never will) and nowhere else. I guess the idea that there are people that don't want to be on Facebook never occurred to them.

[Alanzeign]

Ok, my fault, I don't think I explained myself well. What I'm talking about is for example:

One of the guys that lived here in the dorms is a drag queen(Out of all the guys that lived here he was actually one of the ones I was fond of). So he's super gay, yadda, yadda, yadda. He always introduces himself by his drag name and is always hitting on the guys at the dorms, what evs. One (specific) time his mom calls the counter and the kid working at the counter calls out to him by his drag name, and he gets really mad at the kid because his mom was still on the line. Point being, if you're in the closet and don't want to come out for whatever reason, fine that's okay, you shouldn't come out until you're ready. But don't be a beacon of gay stereotypes and then get mad if/when it blows up in your face.

(As for the steretype things, honestly I'm a bit effeminate, but I actually tend to fit straight stereotypes better than gay stereotypes. I suck at being gay. :( )

Ok, I gotcha now. That makes a lot more sense, that guy really should've seen it coming, ha.

[Danne]

WHAT?

Where? When? Why? HOW DID I NOT KNOW?!

Just checked Mrs. Snyder's Wiki. Thank you so much for letting me know.

Welcomes. ^_^

[rayne_dragon]

Speaking of Bi, I was wondering something. Does anyone know any bisexual/pansexual trans folk? I've noticed some are straight and some are gay, but I've only met one who liked both men and women.

And as a sidenote: met a cute girl tonight... totally crushing on her despite my desire to avoid relationships at the moment.

There was an LGBT club on campus, but they hadn't updated their website in years and never really advertised their events much so I didn't get to do anything with them. To me, it was basically, "Well, I'm bisexual. But any guys who would be into me seem to be hiding. Bleh."

For some reason bi guys seem to be ultra rare. They also seem not to ping the mythical "gaydar" either. Is weird.

[golentan]

Hmm... I'm working from a tiny, tiny sample size (2, one FtM, one MtF), but both the trans people I know are straight... um... like their birth sex??? Think that's straight.

Man, I find trans language to be a minefield.

Also, Bi Guy here... Umm... Don't ping on gaydar, apparently.

[Mecharious]

I've got a bi boyfriend who never pinged on my gaydar. Of course, my gayday is notoriously bad. I didn't even realize I was gay until I was 17.

[turkishproverb]

You're not the latest age someone's ever been to realize that. Believe me.

[ArlEammon]

You're not the latest age someone's ever been to realize that. Believe me.

I'm 27. .. and Questioning.

[golentan]

Yeah. And as my panic attack a few pages back indicated I'm not as confident in my "bi" descriptor as I could be.

[Heliomance]

You should've asked for a John Hancock instead.

A where how with the what now?

[golentan]

A where how with the what now?

John Hancock went... a little overboard with signing the declaration of independence here in the americas. Okay, a lot overboard.

[Lix Lorn]

Speaking of Bi, I was wondering something. Does anyone know any bisexual/pansexual trans folk? I've noticed some are straight and some are gay, but I've only met one who liked both men and women.

AnythingThatMoves right here. Although that'd be asexual, panromantic until I transition.

[Coidzor]

John Hancock went... a little overboard with signing the declaration of independence here in the americas. Okay, a lot overboard.

So much so that his name became a term.

[golentan]

Hrrm... Sounded more tongue in cheek before I put it to page. Nevermind me. *slinks off to corner of shame.*

[SMEE]

Speaking of Bi, I was wondering something. Does anyone know any bisexual/pansexual trans folk? I've noticed some are straight and some are gay, but I've only met one who liked both men and women.

Hmm... hi.
I'm 110% bi. I'm not too much a fan of limiting my hunting options.

[KenderWizard]

On a related note, are trans people who aren't bi/pan more likely to be attracted to the same gender as the one they transition to or the opposite one?

I don't know any trans people, living in the country equivalent of a friendly but very small and rather old-fashioned village, and not being in any LGBT communities.

[22Charisma]

Speaking of Bi, I was wondering something. Does anyone know any bisexual/pansexual trans folk? I've noticed some are straight and some are gay, but I've only met one who liked both men and women.

One of my best friends actually described herself as pansexual to me once. She's dated guys, girls. I think she dated a trans person too. Also I think she dated a straight crossdresser... or was he just a friend of her's... I can't remember.

[Lix Lorn]

On a related note, are trans people who aren't bi/pan more likely to be attracted to the same gender as the one they transition to or the opposite one?

Well, I THINK I have a preference for girls. I know that if I were to have sex before transitioning, it would be with a girl...
However, afterwards I'm not sure. I think I'm just drawn to wanting a heterosexual relationship. That probably indicates bad things in my subconscious. Sorry.

[Coidzor]

Well, I THINK I have a preference for girls. I know that if I were to have sex before transitioning, it would be with a girl...
However, afterwards I'm not sure. I think I'm just drawn to wanting a heterosexual relationship. That probably indicates bad things in my subconscious. Sorry.

There wouldn't be any issue, but that you feel the need to fall over yourself apologizing for it makes one become apparent.