D&D Demotivators III: My PCs Did What?

[Miscast_Mage]

Fresh batch, coming through~

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[Kesnit]

yes... I went there.... The fail burns, does it not?
My "Repentance"

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http://cracker3011.deviantart.com/art/Imperial-Guard-Motivational-2-173831401

Ok ok, fine, calm down IG players (I play them myself anyways)

I have to admire the IG. In a grimdark galaxy with aliens that want to kill them, SM and Sisters of Battle with cooler stuff than they have, and the Inquisition who keeps looking over their shoulders, they just keep plodding along.

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http://largon93.deviantart.com/art/Exterminatus-143546914

Admit, you know you've always wanted to do this at least once to your gaming group.

Gives a whole new spin on "Rocks fall, everyone dies."

[BayardSPSR]

I have to admire the IG. In a grimdark galaxy with aliens that want to kill them, SM and Sisters of Battle with cooler stuff than they have, and the Inquisition who keeps looking over their shoulders, they just keep plodding along.

Somehow, this makes me think of Russians during the Soviet era. Just switch out SM/Sisters with the US, the Inquisition with the KGB/NKVD, and the aliens with... the KGB/NKVD. 'Course, that was kinda the intention, what with the Commissars and all, but I digress. A lot.

I must repent...

But before I do - are OotS demotivators not permitted? I ask because I have not seen any, and don't remember seeing something about it in the Forum Rules.

[Jair Barik]

OotS demotivators are allowed (to my knowledge) so long as they do not use any of the Rich's origional artwork. So quoting OotS with fan artwork is allowed (it has been done, I seem to recall a nice piece of Xykon artwork with his 'power' quote) as would quoting OotS on a OotS unrelated pic, (e.g. using any of the quotes about Paladins to accompany a picture of a Paladin from other medi,) but using a pic from the comic, edited pic from the comic, offical forum avatar, book cover, artwork from the boardgame etc. is against forum rules

[Cartigan]

OotS demotivators are allowed (to my knowledge) so long as they do not use any of the Rich's origional artwork.

I don't have words to properly elaborate on the absurdity of this rule.

[Gnoman]

Rich is zealous about protecting his IP.

[Cartigan]

Rich is zealous about protecting his IP.

The only place he can "protect" it like that is, ironically, here on the forums for his own site! Other places, it's free use (in the manner it would be employed in this thread) and the mods ANYWHERE else aren't going to stop people from doing it.

I won't get into how OotS is, you know, stick figures and anyone could just make them and say they are TOTALLY different people in a stick-figure D&D universe.

[Serpentine]

The only place he can "protect" it like that is, ironically, here on the forums for his own site! Other places, it's free use (in the manner it would be employed in this thread) and the mods ANYWHERE else aren't going to stop people from doing it.

Indeed, you can. Fact is, we are here, and here the mods can stop you from using it.

I won't get into how OotS is, you know, stick figures and anyone could just make them and say they are TOTALLY different people in a stick-figure D&D universe.

The Giant has explicitly said before that anyone is free to remake his characters or (I think) scenes and use them, even tracing, as long as they don't then claim the characters as their own. Your work, no matter how similar to his, you can do whatever you want with*. His work, you can not.

*within the boundaries of copyright etc, obviously, as mentioned.

[Cartigan]

Indeed, you can. Fact is, we are here, and here the mods can stop you from using it.

Which doesn't make the absurdity any less. In fact, it only enhances it.

The Giant has explicitly said before that anyone is free to remake his characters or (I think) scenes and use them, even tracing, as long as they don't then claim the characters as their own. Your work, no matter how similar to his, you can do whatever you want with*. His work, you can not.

*within the boundaries of copyright etc, obviously, as mentioned.

Within boundaries of copyright, I can do the same thing to his OotS comic as being done to EVERY OTHER IP in this thread. Legally, this is a fight he can't win (the letting people post OTHER people's IP here without stopping them doesn't help either); it can only be done through an absurd and backward system of personal enforcement on his own site's forums.

Moreover, how would the mods be able to differentiate a traced picture put on this thread from a simple photoshop cut out?

[Jair Barik]

Let's get back on topic people! More motivators!

The relevant information on the subject is in the playground rules towards the end. Alternatively the relevant bit is here

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Copyrighted Material and OotS Images
Using copyrighted artwork as an avatar is technically illegal unless you have the permission of the copyright holder. Even if the art is modified in some way, the original copyright still stands and you can't use it as an avatar. Rich Burlew has specifically requested that people DO NOT use his OOTS art as avatar image, other than those he has specifically provided as the default message board avatars. Also, please do not take, alter, or use the provided avatar images, comic images, or other pieces of Rich's art without express consent. If you want an OOTS-style avatar, there are many burgeoning avatar artists hanging around the Arts and Crafts forum who might make one for you.

Any avatar image that is found to be used without the permission of the copyright holder will be removed. If the creator of an avatar personally approaches the GITP staff and claims that their creation is being used without permission by another poster--as might be the case if they requested credit for the avatar and then were denied such--the Moderators will remove the avatar immediately. The first instance of this will incur a Warning, but should the member reinstate his or her violating avatar or create another avatar that also violates the rules, he or she will be issued an Infraction.

[Serpentine]

Which doesn't make the absurdity any less. In fact, it only enhances it.

His site, his rules. If he doesn't want his stuff used, he's perfectly within his rights to ban it on his website.

Within boundaries of copyright, I can do the same thing to his OotS comic as being done to EVERY OTHER IP in this thread.

True, and I admit I do find it a bit silly to disallow the demotivating of his comics (is there a Word of Mod source on this ban?).

Legally, this is a fight he can't win (the letting people post OTHER people's IP here without stopping them doesn't help either); it can only be done through an absurd and backward system of personal enforcement on his own site's forums.

Legally, he's completely able to have whatever rules he wants on this site. He could require everyone to have an avatar of a horse's arse, and if you click "Accept Terms" when you make your account you'd better believe you're gonna have an avatar of a horse's arse.

Moreover, how would the mods be able to differentiate a traced picture put on this thread from a simple photoshop cut out?

I believe it is recommended that one put some flaws or similar in a trace if it's really that perfect. You'd be doing well to get it that perfect, though.

[Cartigan]

Legally, he's completely able to have whatever rules he wants on this site.

Technically, no. But that's not what I was referring to, and yes, on the site he can legally make absurd rules counter to Fair Use of copyrighted materials for his own personal stuff and enforce it with his own staff.

I believe it is recommended that one put some flaws or similar in a trace if it's really that perfect. You'd be doing well to get it that perfect, though.

It's stick figures. I could make them free-hand in paint - most of it easily at any rate. In fact, I'd be surprised if he didn't.

[Serpentine]

I believe he uses Photoshop or Illustrator or something like that.
And if it's so easy to get it absolutely completely and indistinguishably perfect, maybe you should give it a shot. No cheating.
The very, very best avatarists can get something that looks like it could've been drawn by the Giant himself. I haven't seen any of them try to copy exactly an OotS comic, but most other avatarists are a long way from that.

[Cartigan]

I believe he uses Photoshop or Illustrator or something like that.

That's probably easier for the things that aren't the circle creator button.

[Kobold-Bard]

... (is there a Word of Mod source on this ban?).
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I have an official Warning from Zeb about it sat in my PM box for posting OotS motivators. So I wouldn't recommend making any, appropriate as they may be to the thread a hand.

Posting from my phone, so I'll do my tax when u get to my computer.

[Lord_Gareth]

Guys, just drop the OotS-vator conversation, please? Rich's playground, Rich's rules, right?

[SleepyShadow]

Where did all the posters go?

Oh, here they are:

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[Gamerlord]

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[averagejoe]

The Mod They Call Me: This conversation is off topic for this thread. If you want to continue discussing this topic then you may either create a thread in site issues or PM me.

(is there a Word of Mod source on this ban?)

As far as I know it's against the site rules to use Rich's artwork in any way. He has not made a caveat specifically for demotivators, so you should assume this is against the rules.

[Admiral Squish]

Indeed, let there be posters! Enough with this tomfoolery!

[Marnath]

Hope:

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One I think is funny, but rodent-lovers won't:

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Railroading:

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This one applies to most PC's:

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[Vknight]

Ah railroading the eternal ability to keep the story going no matter the loss of limb

[Boci]

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What was the name of that show?

[The Rose Dragon]

What was the name of that show?

Monster Rancher something something.

[Cieyrin]

Monster Rancher something something.

It was just Monster Rancher, no subtitles to differentiate it from other series or anything, at least as far as I'm aware.

[senrath]

I think it was just Monster Rancher. No "something something" on the end.

Edit: Ninja'd

[Kobold-Bard]

Late tax (more lazy Googling because it's 3am here and I'm taking a sanity break from the 3000 word essay due in in 6 hours):

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[golentan]

Found this and it made me laugh.

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Edit: I probably would have used some different quotes, but he's one of those characters you can find support for anything for as is...

[CodeRed]

Edit: I probably would have used some different quotes, but he's one of those characters you can find support for anything for as is...

That's very much why the show is entertaining. Lelouch, no matter how you may feel about his actions, is very much a life-like, fleshed-out character. He can swing the alignment pendulum from end to end in a single episode.

[nyarlathotep]

I'd say that all of the evil quotes are spot on, but the some of the other ones are a bit spotty, in particular Lawful Good sounds a lot more like Chaotic Good.