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2011-03-28, 10:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
So what is Arcelia and Lalita up to?
Yaago wants to come and check on them per the Primera's orders
suggestions?Hirokatsu Goto, Captain of the 9th Division
Taro Banzuke, 3rd Seat and Acting-Captain of the 10th Division
Eiji Ito, 4th Seat of the 1st Division
Yaago Duarte, Ex-Fraccion to Genoveva, the Ex-Primera Espada
Izanagi Aso, Freelance Photographer, Spiritually Aware Human
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2011-03-28, 10:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
They're riding a dinosaur, naturally.
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I met a girl with a really pensive look. I walk up to her, put a fifty cent coin in her hand, "For your thoughts. I know the going rate is supposed to be one, but I figure you play hardball."
She gave it back, "Keep it. Pretty sure a guy with your charm can find a way to have them for free anyway."
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2011-03-28, 10:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
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2011-03-28, 10:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
"It's the fate of all things under the sky,
to grow old and wither and die."
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2011-03-28, 01:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
is there anyone who last saw either of them? is anyone at the proving grounds now? i just need a little something to go on
I am fine with going to Edward...though i know he doesnt like Yaago
I just am not sure i would KNOW to go to him...still if no real reason..i know he is smart so i could go to him...
do we have a plot reason why Arcelia is gone?
I just want to bring something back to the Primera...maybe it can help move along said "process for revoke"
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Hirokatsu Goto, Captain of the 9th Division
Taro Banzuke, 3rd Seat and Acting-Captain of the 10th Division
Eiji Ito, 4th Seat of the 1st Division
Yaago Duarte, Ex-Fraccion to Genoveva, the Ex-Primera Espada
Izanagi Aso, Freelance Photographer, Spiritually Aware Human
-Great drawing of Izanagi by Kasanip!Spoiler
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2011-03-28, 02:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
Lalita used to be Edward's Fraccion so he would be the one to go to in order to ask about Lalita (in my mind anyway) and, for information about the Tres Espada position I'd suggest going to talk to Clovis since Draken's dialogue suggest he's stood in as an interim Espada multiple times nd people would know that.
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2011-03-28, 05:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
Tercera, not Tres. Tercera denotes position, Tres denotes number.
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I met a girl with a really pensive look. I walk up to her, put a fifty cent coin in her hand, "For your thoughts. I know the going rate is supposed to be one, but I figure you play hardball."
She gave it back, "Keep it. Pretty sure a guy with your charm can find a way to have them for free anyway."
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2011-03-28, 05:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
I know what I typed.
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2011-03-28, 06:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
Fair enough. Have a plushie.
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AWSUM
This one's new.Spoiler
I met a girl with a really pensive look. I walk up to her, put a fifty cent coin in her hand, "For your thoughts. I know the going rate is supposed to be one, but I figure you play hardball."
She gave it back, "Keep it. Pretty sure a guy with your charm can find a way to have them for free anyway."
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2011-03-28, 06:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
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2011-03-28, 06:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
Nobody knows what happened to Arcelia. One day she was there, the other there was an interin.
The Proving Ground that Clovis is using is also not a particularly open or public area. It is more of a dome made on the spot from the foundations of Las Noches (a thick layer of living hollow bone that gives sustentation to the structures of the city).
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2011-03-28, 06:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
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2011-03-28, 07:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
No, but the foundations are relatively deep and have their own weak but pervasive reiatsu.
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2011-03-29, 06:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
Ummm... one question about Rouga's mountain:
Is it supposed to be inside Las Noches? Because Pico referred to a sunset but... there is no sun out in the sands. It's always night, with that strange moon looming overhead.
Because if it is inside Las Noches, the dome must be higher than 12 km, which I personally find hard to believe."It's the fate of all things under the sky,
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2011-03-29, 07:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
Okay, I need some outside help to figure out of there are cultural differences fueling this post. Because I am genuinely confused.
Kaito isn't "attacking everyone else". Unless "giving a different opinion in the form of a logical counter-point in as calm of a manner as possible" is suddenly equal to "attack". I've repeatedly noted how calm he is, how he's going for the calm, logical approach, and so on.
But Kaito had so far attacked Ken, Kina, Sayaka's father, Sayaka and Michiko sempai.
Sayaka: I'm having trouble remembering how he would have "attacked" her, unless Kasanip is referring to the post I just made, where he simply states that shutting up and not getting this nailed down would be risking his life (at least in his eyes).
Kina: Um....this one makes even less sense. He calmly disagreed with "let's just be friends and not worry about this". He never, not once, "attacked" her.
Michiko: He only disagreed on the point of her being leader. He readily agreed with the rest of the proposal. Also note that when he lists the "chain of command", Michiko is right behind Nakahiro in that line. Which means he does think she has the potential to lead. So again, I'm missing the "attack", unless we're looking at the first couple of posts in the scene, where he's angry because of a fake love letter.
Ken: The only one I see the potential for "attack" in, he's still been working to stick to counterpoints rather than insults. He made that "melodrama-sama" quote, but that's the height of it.
What gets my goat more is that Ken, who's clearly being a.)needlessly melodramatic, and b.)is clearly working more actively to get a negative emotional response out of Kaito (via things like "he's too stupid to see I'm sarcastic, even though the guy writing my posts is giving absolutely no cues of any kind in my post that I'm anything but 100% serious"), he's just "annoying and sometimes a liar". But Kaito, who's working hard to remain dispassionate and present what he sees as a vital subject for the survival of himself and his friends, is suddenly some big villain. Why? Because I'm confused, and a little annoyed, at this point. It seems a bit unfair that Kaito is painted as a villain and Ken's just "some annoying guy".
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2011-03-29, 07:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
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I met a girl with a really pensive look. I walk up to her, put a fifty cent coin in her hand, "For your thoughts. I know the going rate is supposed to be one, but I figure you play hardball."
She gave it back, "Keep it. Pretty sure a guy with your charm can find a way to have them for free anyway."
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2011-03-29, 08:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
I think I mentioned this to you earlier, but Kaito's been feeling to me like a bear shot in the ass for a while now. That coming from a non-japanese point of view.
From a japanese point of view, Kaito's been acting in a very impolite manner - too blunt, too straightforward, and too challenging. Less what he's done or said, more how he's done and said it. To a more traditional person (like Sayaka), it would make him very abrasive person.
Think of it this way: in real world, not everyone likes dealing with people who are as upfront. Kaito might not mean to be offending, but that doesn't prevent him from being so to people who have different attitudes and personalities.
Don't take it as an attack against yourself or your character. Clash of personalities is something that happens when prior strangers are suddenly made to act together. Not everyone likes everybody, and a group can very well be unfair towards someone with little to no reason.
Consider the bright sides: you can use this observation to fuel the story. You've noted Kaito is being misunderstood and treated unfairly, and are annoyed and confused due to that, so ask yourself - can he notice he's being misunderstood and treated unfairly? Does he have reasons to be annoyed, confused, etc.?
In character reactions are what drives the game. Overall, I don't think there's reason to settle this "dispute" out-of-character."It's the fate of all things under the sky,
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2011-03-29, 08:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
Speaking as someone who often faces the same kind of criticism Kaito does, I can understand where KD is coming from. He's being practical, upfront and generally loose-lipped with his opinions - I've found that unless you seek to present yourself as clearly respecting people's opinions you come across as a bit of an ass. My motto in that regard is as follows: "You're entitled to your opinion. Just don't expect me to believe it's right because it's an opinion; they're not born equal or based on the same facets of reality."
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I met a girl with a really pensive look. I walk up to her, put a fifty cent coin in her hand, "For your thoughts. I know the going rate is supposed to be one, but I figure you play hardball."
She gave it back, "Keep it. Pretty sure a guy with your charm can find a way to have them for free anyway."
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2011-03-29, 09:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. 喧嘩 I thought it can be said in English language "fight" of this meaning.
It is not my opinion of the post. It is to be Sayaka's opinion. It is RP character opinion only. I will try to answer questions:
Sayaka's Father: I thought we all understood that much of that was driven by a cultural misunderstanding? That that whole incident (which was also one of calm debate, rather than heated insults and verbal attacks) was created because I was approaching from an American viewpoint that saw the scene as one of a teacher speaking to students; a setup wherein (in America, at least at higher education levels) the student isn't just allowed, but sometimes encouraged to ask questions, even radical questions.
Originally Posted by kasanip
Sayaka: I'm having trouble remembering how he would have "attacked" her, unless Kasanip is referring to the post I just made, where he simply states that shutting up and not getting this nailed down would be risking his life (at least in his eyes).
Also he ignores earlier her in his thought of organize team. To Sayaka, it is unfair she thinks because she knows more than he does of this kind of thing she thinks. Of course also she had similar thought at shrine too at meeting when Kaito says comment too.
Maybe she thinks Kaito dislikes people- she does not know him, and always he has 'cool' or 'logic' and ignore 'emotion'. He says teamwork is important, but ignores friends opinions. I hope Sayaka and Kaito can become friend so this maybe changes.
Maybe a little of Sayaka's character too, because often she had similar always neutral expression in opinion like Kaito. But she doesn't like it. To see Kaito ignore everyone's opinion, it isn't good she thinks. Sayaka is changing one step and one step to be more open to other character. It is frustration of "Emotion" and "Logic" maybe.
Of course, they are first year students, so it can be understand I think.
Kina: Um....this one makes even less sense. He calmly disagreed with "let's just be friends and not worry about this". He never, not once, "attacked" her.
Maybe I think you have agree of this: Kaito thinks even if it is argument and uncomfortable, it must be done in this style now, because life and death situation.
Sayaka disagrees and does not want Kina to be uncomfortable. Kina has had lot of stress recently, maybe Kaito doesn't know. But he does not try to also. So Sayaka thinks Kaito doesn't think of others' feelings.
Michiko: He only disagreed on the point of her being leader. He readily agreed with the rest of the proposal. Also note that when he lists the "chain of command", Michiko is right behind Nakahiro in that line. Which means he does think she has the potential to lead. So again, I'm missing the "attack", unless we're looking at the first couple of posts in the scene, where he's angry because of a fake love letter.
Kaito says Michiko does not have qualification, but to suggest Nakahiro who is good at board games and kendo. Sayaka thinks of all the character, Sayaka has most experience in this, and even Sayaka doesn't do well, and has no self-confidence after recent attack of hollow. So Nakahiro or Michiko combat skill is not useful qualification, she thinks. But Michiko is class representative and senior, so has some experience of leadership. It is better than play board games. But Nakahiro makes good speech, so Sayaka wants two to work together.
Ken: The only one I see the potential for "attack" in, he's still been working to stick to counterpoints rather than insults. He made that "melodrama-sama" quote, but that's the height of it.
What gets my goat more is that Ken, who's clearly being a.)needlessly melodramatic, and b.)is clearly working more actively to get a negative emotional response out of Kaito (via things like "he's too stupid to see I'm sarcastic, even though the guy writing my posts is giving absolutely no cues of any kind in my post that I'm anything but 100% serious"), he's just "annoying and sometimes a liar". But Kaito, who's working hard to remain dispassionate and present what he sees as a vital subject for the survival of himself and his friends, is suddenly some big villain. Why?
But a fight is 2 people I think. Ken also to make mistakes and maybe start argument with Kaito. But when Sayaka asked them to stop, Ken agreed and stopped, not Kaito. Ken at least, is to consider other feelings. If it is true what he said. Sayaka is not sure if he said true (she say he is sometimes a liar). She is annoyed of Ken too of course. But he stopped. Kaito didn't stop.
With other reasons, of course Kaito does not seem very nice. He's not listening.
I hope it explains thoughts of Sayaka. I am sorry it was difficult and maybe many mistakes. (>< )Kasanip's Sketchbook 2 Thread
It is difficult to speak English, please excuse mistakes kindly m(_ _)m
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2011-03-29, 09:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
I've also been seeing Kaito as being highly confrontational. I think part of the problem is how much arguing he does with everyone; he has been part of most of the disagreements. He can also be quite dismissive (or at least it feels that way to me) of other characters and their opinions, which doesn't help any. Obviously this isn't what you are intending to do, but that's the way it's coming off.
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2011-03-29, 10:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
Coming to think of it, I would actually rather the kids disagree about this. It gives Hasunaga something to do when Big Bad Training Time comes.
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I met a girl with a really pensive look. I walk up to her, put a fifty cent coin in her hand, "For your thoughts. I know the going rate is supposed to be one, but I figure you play hardball."
She gave it back, "Keep it. Pretty sure a guy with your charm can find a way to have them for free anyway."
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2011-03-29, 10:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
Considering the kids aren't supposed to team up yet, and are supposed to need kidnapping of their close one as a catalyst to do just that, all is going fiiiine.
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2011-03-29, 10:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
This comment made me smile. Cool as a cucumber is just a saying that means being composed, unflappable, calm, etc.
Right now he's acting silly while being sincere. He jokes around because he figures no one can really know who would make a good leader since the characters know little about each other unless they've been friends before coming to this school. Even if they've known each other for a good chunk of time they still might not have a good grasp of how each person acts under pressure or in a leadership position. He's also kidding around because none of them have impressive qualifications. In addition he thinks that although their decisions could determine whether they live or die they aren't in a life or death situation right now so they can afford to be lighthearted to some degree while talking things out as long as they act seriously in the long run. Finally he questions the need for a leader when they could just try to become super well coordinated. He figures a willingness to lead and good character/virtues/personality is what really matters.
He thinks he has a good personality despite not showing it at the moment and he's willing to lead.
He sincerely doesn't want to upset Kina or Sayaka.
If you're wondering why he speaks so dramatically at times, that's because he likes to imitate anime/manga. If a fellow student were to threaten to beat him up he might respond with something cliche like "You must be sick of life!" Better yet he might say "Wash your neck and wait!" If he wanted to be really silly he'd slip a letter of challenge into his locker and not show up to the designated meeting place or claim he was the school's banchō despite the fact that it might be nearly entirely delinquent free and just about no one referring to themselves as such.
When Sayaka says:
he just can't resist being cliche so he says things like this.
Merely saying many people care about her including him isn't any fun. Plus he meant what he said so why shouldn't he say it?
I don't mind if all the other characters think of mine as a goof.Last edited by nothingclever; 2011-03-29 at 12:41 PM.
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2011-03-29, 03:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
So, if I want to get a cat rockin' in this jive hop, should I talk about it here, or just drop it in the registry?
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2011-03-29, 03:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
Either is fine as long as you notify us there's a new character in town. Be also prepared to wait for a while as we chew over him or her. There's also a new player guide in the wiki. Link is in the first post.
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2011-03-29, 06:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
I guess I read too much OOC into the post, especially into words like "attack", which seemed wildly out of proportion. I suppose part of it was the early hour of the morning when I wrote up that post.
Frozen does have a mildly good point in that, technically, we're kind of "going off the rails". Then again, who knows? Maybe other events will cause friction...
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2011-03-29, 09:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
IMO, it isn't a good idea to glue yourself to the rails. Sometimes scenes just develop differently than they were intended to; at that point, at least from my perspective, it's better to let things go from there. Generally it doesn't have a massive effect on the plot one way or another.
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2011-03-29, 10:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
@Nothing: There actually aren't rumors about Michiko running a gang. Not yet anyway. She's a delinquent, but she's never been seen with a gang. Heck, she avoids hanging out with Yuudai if she can avoid it. XD Doesn't change the content of your post much, just throwing that out there.
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2011-03-29, 11:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn OOC Thread 15: Eye of the Tiger... Hollow
Yes it does. I'm not going to have Ken accuse her of trying to make the group into a gang to do her bidding or of recruiting them into a preexisting one instead. If he doesn't have any reason to suspect that she's in a gang besides the rumor that her family is yakuza he's not going to accuse her of gang activity and he's not going to mention the yakuza rumor. Doing that makes him look like a real jerk, especially when she claims a friend of hers just died. I can see the easy retort already. *sob sob* "Yes my dad is a criminal. I didn't choose to be born into such a family. ;_; I'm an honor role student, don't you think that might be because I'm trying to be a good person and not get involved in shady family business? I want to break away from my nogoodnik heritage and start anew. Why do insensitive clods like you keep holding me back?" If any of the kids bring up her parents potentially being criminals to discredit her during the current situation they are automatic jerks.
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