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    Default Symbiont Support 3.5 PEACH

    OK, so the idea is, Magic of Eberron contains a race, the Daelkyr Half-blood, and the Symbionts and Grafts as Treasure sidebar. Both contain tables that reference each of the Symbionts in Eberron Campaign Setting and Magic of Eberron.

    However, a great many Symbionts were already printed in the Fiend Folio, and were not included in either table. I'm expanding both of these tables to include the Fiend Folio Symbionts, plus any homebrew Symbionts that I come across. I will not, for obvious reasons, be reproducing the entries from Magic of Eberron in either table.

    More information on Symbionts and related items can be found in my Fleshwarping list.

    Table 1: Daelkyr Half-blood Personal Symbionts
    These entries are in addition to those found in Magic of Eberron, pg. 37.
    {table=head]Level | Choices1

    1st | Restless ArmorEG

    5th | Angel ClawEG, Flame GloveEG, Psionic SinewFF, Skull MantleEG

    10th | Eldritch ClawEG, SpellknightEG, Sky ScourgeEG

    15th | Cerebral HoodFF

    20th | Living Breastplate2, Mind LeechFF[/table]1 All choices from an earlier level are also available to a higher-level Daelkyr half-blood.
    2 The Living Breastplate was presumably not included in the original table intentionally; I have added it at 20th because it seems appropriate.
    EG Homebrew symbiont by EdroGrimshell et al.
    FF Published in Fiend Folio. Only the Cerebral Symbionts (that is, not the Fiendish Symbionts) are included, reflecting the fact that, in the Eberron campaign setting, Illithids are the creations and pawns of the Daelkyr, and therefore Daelkyr Half-bloods would have access to them.


    Table 2: Symbionts as Treasure
    These entries are in addition to those found in Magic of Eberron, pg. 154.
    {table=head]Symbiont | GP Equivalent

    Angel ClawEG | 8,000

    Cerebral HoodFF | No gp value*

    Eldritch ClawEG | 15,000

    Fiendish FamiliarFF | 6,000

    Flame GloveEG | 2,000

    Ghostly VisageFF | 25,000

    GutwormFF | 10,000

    Mind LeechFF | No gp value*

    Psionic SinewFF | 25,000

    Restless ArmorEG | 500

    Soul TickFF | 10,000

    SpellknightEG | 15,000

    Skull MantleEG | 15,000

    Sky ScourgeEG | 15,000[/table]EG Homebrew symbiont by EdroGrimshell et al.
    FF Published in Fiend Folio.

    * The Cerebral Hood and Mind Leech symbionts are frighteningly good: the base cost for an item that does what each of them does (barring Ego conflicts and the Int damage) is 110,000 and 275,000 gp, respectively. Moreover, they're both much better than such an item would be, because they are creatures with their own actions, and therefore using their abilities doesn't require yours. However, the DC on all of their abilities is 17, which by the time you could afford these kinds of costs, is worthless. Thus, I suggest treating them as Minor Artifacts: they are very much rewards, powerful ones, for a DM to give players. Of course, getting one probably means getting past someone who is using them, which should be quite challenging.
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    How would you price the carapace symbionts from Dragon 308?
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    Default Re: Symbiont Support 3.5 PEACH

    I don't have Dragon 308, so I couldn't tell you, I'm afraid. That fact's been annoying me, actually.

    Since Edro's bumped this for me (thanks!), I'll take this opportunity to ask once again for PEACH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veyr View Post
    I don't have Dragon 308, so I couldn't tell you, I'm afraid. That fact's been annoying me, actually.

    Since Erdo's bumped this for me (thanks!), I'll take this opportunity to ask once again for PEACH.
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    Of course it is, I don't know what you're talking about!

    Sorry about that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veyr View Post
    Sorry about that...
    Everyone does it, i've gotten used to it
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    This all looks fine through the cerebral hood and mind leech are rather poorly designed symbiotes for PCs from the get go, overpowered at low levels but useless at high levels.
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    Default Re: Symbiont Support 3.5 PEACH

    I agree, I'm not a fan of either. Though you can share spells with your symbionts, which might make something like Bear's Endurance or Fox's Cunning effective enough at upping the DCs so as to be worth using?

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