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2011-03-17, 12:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hand-written? Really?
I have a question for you guys. Do you ever get asked to turn in a hand-written research, essay, or other written paper?
My teacher just asked us to. Everyone was very confused. Even before computers college students were expected to turn in assignments done by typewriter, or so my parents lead me to believe.
We were... confused. I wondered if I'd just traveled back in time without noticing. Usually, we don't turn in hand-written assignments because nothing says "done 5 minutes before class" like a hand-written assignment.
Do you guys get asked to turn in hand-written assignments? Because I haven't since fifth grade.
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2011-03-17, 12:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-03-17, 12:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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I don't even turn drafts in hand-written.
Although the aforementioned fifth grade teacher had a weird policy: Drafts may be done in computer but the final paper has to be hand-written in ink and cursive.
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2011-03-17, 12:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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A friend turns in hand-written essays for his Chinese class (written in Chinese), but that's it Usually my teachers prefer typed essays because they're easier to read than students' handwritings.
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2011-03-17, 12:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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There is only one reason I can think of asking for hardcopies in the first place, let alone hand-written ones: you don't have a Turnitin account. Hand-written copies mean that even if it is word-for-word plagiarism, the person who wrote it put effort into reading the source material and putting it to paper, which is slightly better than direct C&V.
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2011-03-17, 12:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm guessing this teacher just wants student to practice hand writting, as it is a skill that is losing ground, in this computer age.
It is still quite weird though.
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2011-03-17, 12:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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You obviously have people in your class who can write magnificent papers, maybe your teacher is looking to deduct points based on handwriting.
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2011-03-17, 12:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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What year is this in in school?
And no, that's ridiculous. You're being required to handwrite a paper? Really?
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2011-03-17, 12:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Never heard of such a thing on the college level. The only handwritten work my professors ever received were from in-class tests, and I graduated eight years ago. Good thing for me, since my handwriting is just a couple steps up from chicken scratches anyway.
By the way, by not requiring the computer file, your professor is making it much easier for the students to commit plagiarism. In order for him to check any hardcopy, he either has to know the original paper in question, or re-type the papers into a plagiarism-checker.
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2011-03-17, 12:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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The police suspects that in your classroom is hiding a dangerous criminal, and they need a handwriting comparison, without alarming the suspect; your teacher is working with them.
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2011-03-17, 12:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Slightly on topic...I heard something disturbing a few months ago. Apparently schools here are discontinuing the teaching of cursive writing. Print will be the only method of hand writing taught, and cursive will be an elective additional assignment to be learned on ones own time.
Crazy...
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2011-03-17, 01:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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I left school some 23 years ago now and I don't recall ever having to turn in homework typewritten, to be honest--it was always handwritten! University was a slightly different matter, and believe me, it's a royal pain in the whatevers to type up a multiple-page report on a typewriter that has a random tendency to insert a space after every "e"...
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2011-03-17, 01:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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I never liked cursive writing. I never remembered all my capitals. I know the lower case but not all the capital cursives.
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2011-03-17, 01:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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In IB, you have to learn how to do Hand-written assignments, because your English and History exams, at least, involve essays written in-class, as the exam. So we've been practicing by writing all our essays in a time limit, exam-like situation.
It's going to be insane.
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2011-03-17, 01:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Quick question: All you guys keep mentioning "Cursive" handwriting. I'm guessing it's the same as "Joined-up handwriting"?
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2011-03-17, 01:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, exactly the same. Personally, I'm glad it's dying. They tried teaching it to us in the third grade and gave up half-way through. Never mentioned it again, mainly because after that we were supposed to turn in papers printed off anyway.
Speaking of which, I had one bright-idea'd, first-year professor who decided she wanted everyone to turn things in handwritten. Didn't last long. I've been told before that I have the most horrible handwriting; not only is it chicken scratch, but I apparently write "too small" anyway. Must've driven the poor girl to tears trying to read it.
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2011-03-17, 01:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-03-17, 01:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Huh, that's weird. The teacher didn't give any explanation as to why?
I wouldn't dare think of producing papers by hand and with my awful handwriting it isn't exactly a good idea either. It's probably best to space out your work on the assignment, lest you end up with a wrist that really hurts.
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2011-03-17, 03:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yes, a required handwritten assignment is very weird. I get them every so often from tests and the like, but my teachers never specifically ask for a complete 100% handwritten essay. I feel sorry for your teachers if your handwriting is anything but legible.
As for the other topic that has manifested itself in this thread. I actually prefer to write in cursive. It's faster for me and it's more legible than any print of mine. I'm actually kind of sad that it's dying. There are way too many important things written in cursive to simply stop teaching it. (The original copy of the U.S. Constitution, for example, is one of these.)Currently RPG group playing: Endworld (D&D 5e. A Homebrewed post-apocalyptic supplement.)
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2011-03-17, 03:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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I agree. Not only is it needlessly more difficult to learn how to use it, no one uses it for anything but signatures, and even if you do write in cursive no one can freaking read it. Seriously, I've never seen anyone's cursive that was legible to any real degree.
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2011-03-17, 03:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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I have to disagree. I've written out a 90,000 word novel longhand before typing it up on the computer, and it never would have been finished if I'd attempted doing it in cursive. My cursive is pretty much illegible to everybody, including myself. The only time my wrists hurt after writing were when I didn't hold my elbow correctly; printing had nothing to do with it.
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2011-03-17, 03:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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You crazy people and your hating on cursive. Cursive (when done right, anyway) is faster, easier, and way prettier to look at. Granted, you basically have to learn to write in an entirely new way to do it, and so many forms ask for printed words anyway, but... Ew, blocky letters.
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2011-03-17, 04:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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I learned joined-up (or cursive, I guess) writing when I was younger. Then I moved to secondary school and figured that, since it was a fresh start, I'd write the way I like to write.
Happy to say I've never joined up a letter since then.
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2011-03-17, 04:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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@OP, My mom's a teacher and has a few reasons why you would have a handwritten paper:
1: Can you recognize misspelled words without using a spell check? (Guess how many times I had to use the spell check while my mom was dictating?)
2: Do you know punctuation without auto-correct?
3: Since handwriting tends to be slower than typing, you have more time to carefully construct your sentences.
4: No cut and paste to write a report.
5: Believe it or not, there might be a situation where you don't have electricity or technology to write something down.
Also, @ some of the posts about cursive, often it's better/more professional to write in cursive when signing your signature.you know that I'm more than just a doll do you?-Geno
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2011-03-17, 04:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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@OP: Only time I had to turn in a handwritten paper was during a Blue Book test. We all know how much
of a painfun those are, right?
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2011-03-17, 05:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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I do like Cursive, actually. The problem is I don't like handwriting. Mine is awful. Looks like chicken scratch.
OK, let's see....
1: Can you recognize misspelled words without using a spell check? (Guess how many times I had to use the spell check while my mom was dictating?)
2: Do you know punctuation without auto-correct?
3: Since handwriting tends to be slower than typing, you have more time to carefully construct your sentences.
4: No cut and paste to write a report.
5: Believe it or not, there might be a situation where you don't have electricity or technology to write something down.Last edited by Haruki-kun; 2011-03-17 at 05:21 PM.
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2011-03-17, 05:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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When I was in college, it seemed like each of my courses would bounce back and forth -- one wanted handprinted, the next wanted typing, the next printed... etc.
I don't really see what's so weird about it. It's just a personal preference for some. The only problem is that some people write like they have three claws instead of a human hand, but if you're good at deciphering it... *shrug*
Edit: I don't think the above five items were specifically directed at you, but at the population at large. It makes it harder to rely on spellcheck for people that use it way too much, etc.Last edited by onthetown; 2011-03-17 at 05:25 PM.
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Ahh its spanish, that makes things make a lot more sense. I know some Spanish and whenever I type something up in Spanish I very rarely use accents(at least that's what we call them). Mainly becuase adding them in Word not designed to type in Spanish takes way too long.