General Exalted Discussion III: Weddings Are An Act of Villainy

[Indon]

I've been coming to view the Ebon Dragon as a study in ends v. means: His means are magnificent, but the ends he puts them to are self-destructive (also, destructive to everything else).

[Teln]

Isn't it Kimberry who's all about betrayal and such?

From what I've seen she's more "Caustic Jewish Grandmother".

[Indon]

From what I've seen she's more "Caustic Jewish Grandmother".

The pun, it burns!

[Mikal]

Trying to let one my players have a custom artifact. How's this sound?

The Thundering Foecleaver
Constructed by a Solar craftsman in the low First Age, this seven-foot blade of orichalcum is inlaid with blue jade. When the wielder of this grand daiklave successfully strikes an opponent, he can spend one mote to send electrical Essence coursing through his opponent, dealing an additional 8 dice of bashing damage that ignores armor.

What do you think it should be worth? Four dots of Artifact? Five?

I'd make it a 4. A low tier 4 at that since it's just adding Bashing that ignores armor.

[Indon]

I'd make it a 4. A low tier 4 at that since it's just adding Bashing that ignores armor.

You know, bringing this up again makes me think of an adjudication question.

How do you guys deal with multiple damage sources/types (particularly damage that behaves differently) in a single attack? Do you guys run it so that an attack can deal ping damage for each damage source, or do you try to lump it all together and apply soak/hardness to it once?

I'd be very surprised if WW wrote any guidance on that.

[Mikal]

Yes. Enlightened mortals can attune Celestial Battle Armour just fine.

They can't get magical material bonuses though.

Wrong. It stipulates only Celestial exalts are able to use Celestial Battle Armor.
They also couldn't use Immaculate Dragon Armor unless essence 2, since the attune cost for non-dragon-bloods is over 10.

They can use armor of the unseen assassin tho!

You know, bringing this up again makes me think of an adjudication question.

How do you guys deal with multiple damage sources/types (particularly damage that behaves differently) in a single attack? Do you guys run it so that an attack can deal ping damage for each damage source, or do you try to lump it all together and apply soak/hardness to it once?

I'd be very surprised if WW wrote any guidance on that.

It's generally kinda bad to mix bashing and lethal like that cause of the way the system works.
I'd have each apply separately for soak and hardness, but then combine all post soak damage together for rolls. If there's enough soak for all damage, regular ping applies (1 time only)

[Kris Strife]

So, what is the general consensus on Five-Dragon style?

[The Rose Dragon]

So, what is the general consensus on Five-Dragon style?

It's straightforward and not terribly weak. A Dragon-blooded can get use out of learning it, as well most supernatural beings who are not Exalted. However, all of its post-Form Charms are Essence 4, which makes it useless for enlightened mortals and God-blooded.

[Mikal]

It's straightforward and not terribly weak. A Dragon-blooded can get use out of learning it, as well most supernatural beings who are not Exalted. However, all of its post-Form Charms are Essence 4, which makes it useless for enlightened mortals and God-blooded.

Five-Dragon Force Blow isn't too bad though, if you have a high strength.

[Kris Strife]

It's straightforward and not terribly weak. A Dragon-blooded can get use out of learning it, as well most supernatural beings who are not Exalted. However, all of its post-Form Charms are Essence 4, which makes it useless for enlightened mortals and God-blooded.

Any other terrestrial martial arts with straight blades as form weapons and the ability to use full armor?

[The Rose Dragon]

Any other terrestrial martial arts with straight blades as form weapons and the ability to use full armor?

If you have 5 dots in Martial Arts (and why wouldn't you?), there is Path of the Arbiter Style. Otherwise, nothing I can think of.

[Kris Strife]

If you have 5 dots in Martial Arts (and why wouldn't you?), there is Path of the Arbiter Style. Otherwise, nothing I can think of.

Source on Path of the Arbiter?

[The Rose Dragon]

Source on Path of the Arbiter?

Scroll of the Monk, the Imperfect Lotus.

[Kris Strife]

Scroll of the Monk, the Imperfect Lotus.

That doesn't seem to be any better for a Heroic mortal with enlightened essence. Or for using warstriders.

[Tavar]

There are homebrew styles out there. Those might help.

[Kris Strife]

There are homebrew styles out there. Those might help.

Suggestions? This is for your game.

Five Dragon Force Blow style charms would be a nice bonus for fluff reasons.

[Tavar]

The exalted wiki has a long list of Exalted Homebrew. Looking through them might lead to some gems.

[Kris Strife]

The official Wiki or the fan one?

[Tavar]

The official. The fan one...well, it's always seemed poorly set up.

Try here

[Kris Strife]

There was only one that had just swords, no indications of if it meant straight or slashing, but there was no mention of armor either way.

[Mr.Bookworm]

Any other terrestrial martial arts with straight blades as form weapons and the ability to use full armor?

Not full armor, but Even Blade allows medium armor, and is generally regarded as being very, very good.

[Kyeudo]

Not full armor, but Even Blade allows medium armor, and is generally regarded as being very, very good.

At least when it isn't being regarded as very, very bad.

[The Rose Dragon]

At least when it isn't being regarded as very, very bad.

It is regarded as bad because it is too good for a Terrestrial martial arts, though.

[Kris Strife]

Not full armor, but Even Blade allows medium armor, and is generally regarded as being very, very good.

I'm looking for straight swords, not slashing.

[Reynard]

I'm looking for straight swords, not slashing.

Then ask your ST if he'll allow it? There are literally no non-homebrew TMAs that use straight swords.

Why are you so focused on that weapon, by the by?

[Kris Strife]

Then ask your ST if he'll allow it? There are literally no non-homebrew TMAs that use straight swords.

Why are you so focused on that weapon, by the by?

Stylistic reasons, why else?

[Indon]

Okay, another adjudication question that came to mind:

A lunar with their Third Strength Excellency uses it on a damage roll. Do they:

-Double their strength for the purposes of the roll, or
-Reroll their damage roll?

I'm leaning towards letting it allow rerolls, or possibly even letting the Lunar choose.

[The Rose Dragon]

Third Excellency only doubles the rating it applies to for static values. Damage is not a static value.

[Fortuna]

Very true. Now, there are borderline cases, like where your weapon's damage rating is dependant on your attributes (thank you, CotSM), but this isn't one of them.

[The Rose Dragon]

Very true. Now, there are borderline cases, like where your weapon's damage rating is dependant on your attributes (thank you, CotSM), but this isn't one of them.

Even then, that is not a static value. There are very few static values in Exalted (most notably being DVs and how hard it is for people to tell you are lying), really.