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LGBTAitp - Part Thirteen
Welcome, one and all.
This is a thread where we Playgrounders, and LGBTAitp in particular, gather to discuss, share our experiences, give general advice and support one another in such matters as arise relating to, well, the world beyond heteronormaitivity.
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Here are the links for the last few threads, where much of use or interest may be found:- LGBT people in the playground
- LGBT people in the playground - part II
- LGBTitp - part III
- LGBTitp 4: We are a family?
- LGBTitp - Part Five
- LGBTitp - Part Six
- LGBTitp - Part Seven
- LGBTitp - Part Eight
- LGBTitp - Part Nine
- LGBTitp - Part Ten
- LGBTitp - Part Eleven
- LGBTitp - Part Twelve
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Huh buh guh wuh? I thought we still had a little while on the old one. Ah, that new thread smell, before it starts smelling of Lix (whatever it is you do to the threads is a good smell, but distinctive).
Last thread comments: Yeah, as soon as I realized how he was writing I stopped reading the article. I could rant for so long on some of this, but it would probably be my final post on the forum.
So yeah... Gay parakeets. They keep making out while I'm in the room. I totally need to post some pictures at some point.
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I had a pair of gay iguanas once.
The kept tongue kissing in front of guests.
This was when I was seven, and my mother was loosely Christian/Buddhist at the time, so it was a bit embarrassing.
Five years later, though, I was showing them off because of it.
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My preferred pronouns: they, them, their
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Seriously, I put a female in the room I had them in, and they each mated with her once and then ignored her forever. The just sit there, next to each other.
All the time.
Licking each other...
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Lucky. The only thing that one of my dogs will mate with is my furry blanket, never mind the fact that he's been neutered for about four years now. Still, I think he just really loves that blanket; sometimes I see him kneading it like a cat or grabbing a clump of it in his mouth like a baby with a soother and falling asleep, so there's cuteness there.
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Hello new thread!
You know, I never even realised iguanas kissed each other at all...
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...My life is devoid of snuggling gay animals. This makes me sad.
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Here's some cute gay animals snuggling, and some plain ol' cute gay snuggling.
Oh, and I just came across this. Goddess damnit... now I need to spend the next hour or so looking at cute guys snuggling to recover.
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D'aww.
That is indeed silly, some people these days.
I tried taking your advice but google couldn't find any pictures of cute guys or girls snuggling. T_T
But it did find a lot of cats. ^_^
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Right at the end there: "I have friends who are X:" Has that sentence ever, in any variation ended well? I'm partly glad that was cut off, and partly wondering what she would have said to justify herself with it.
That said, that was a huge D'aww moment in the clip they showed. I haven't really watched glee, but... D'aww...
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I saw an advertisement, and there was a close up of one of them. Athough they all look punchable. I've never seen the show, so I can't give names
Like I said, no rational reasons.
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Well, "I have friends who are looking for a new roommate," seems like it would be topical to a discussion of that nature. And "I have friends who just went to visit that country," where country X just came up in conversation, wouldn't be amiss.
Plenty of ways that exist to have that begin a sentence. Not many ways to actually excuse one's rude behavior though, and yet still people always persist in self-delusions that they're within decorum by including them despite having already broken it.
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What advice would you give to someone who has a friend that sees themselves as transexual? (Is that the word, he wants to be but can't do anything about it). I thought I was a fairly tolerant person, but this is a new way of looking at my friend.
I'm just a little confused.
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That depends on exactly what you're looking for... the way you've worded your question seems kind of vague to me. Are you having difficulty accepting their trans nature? Or are you just looking into how you can be supportive of them?
In general though, I find the best way to deal with any such situation is to treat the person with acceptance and empathy. Trying to look at things from their point of view can often be a helpful way of gleaning some idea of how to deal with the situation.
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The plain ol' cute gay snuggling link is broken!
Oh, and I just came across this. Goddess damnit... now I need to spend the next hour or so looking at cute guys snuggling to recover.
Stop. Take a deep breath. Sleep on it. Feel better? (Sleep helps everything, it really does.)
My advice is twofold. One, educate yourself about transgenderism. Folks here can give you some places to start, I'm sure, including via PM (I'm open if you want to talk - FtM here). Find a book in a genre you love that stars a trans character. Go to a trans support website and read testimonials. I've found that exposure to something that makes me uncomfortable really helps me to understand that thing and make me more comfortable with it.
Two, write up a list of reasons why your friend is awesome. (I'm assuming there are lots of reasons, elsewise why would you be friends?) Your friend is your friend, yes? That's really all that's important.
Hope that helped.Last edited by Danne; 2011-03-28 at 10:28 PM.
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Just remember that they're still the same person.
It also might help to research transsexuality, since there are a lot of common beliefs about transsexuals that don't have any basis in facts. Looking at the trans community on youtube might help, or you could research things other places online, or read books on gender psychology and transsexuality.
I wouldn't feel too bad about finding it somewhat difficult to picture your friend as the gender they identify with, since presumably you've known them for a while as their birth sex. However, it's important to be supportive, and to let your friend know that you're 100% behind whatever decisions they feel they need to make (assuming you are).
EDIT: yeah, pretty much what Danne said.Last edited by Nix Nihila; 2011-03-28 at 10:38 PM.
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I'm trying to deal with the fact that this guy's trans nature is a new thing I know about him that has redefined my definition of that person for myself. I know it sounds rather selfish, and I am supportive of him trying to be true to himself. I know it feels rather selfish of me to feel this way, as it's probably a big thing for him as well, but I can't help feeling a little confused.
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Hmm... Sounds like a good idea would be to work out what your friend's position is in regards to pronouns and the public.
Though, a better idea might be to figure out what has you confused in particular.
The way people use language varies, for whatever reason, but, IIRC, transgender is more of an umbrella term that covers more than just someone who just wants to transition and transsexual is more specific to MtF and FtM. Sometimes with the connotation of already being in the transition process, sometimes not, though probably for the best to figure out what language your friend is going with.