LGBTAitp - Part Thirteen

[unosarta]

I think the real reason it would be the new "gay anthem" is because it is one of the only songs that actually covers the LGBT community as a whole, and because it is hella catchy. Even if it isn't, I will still listen to it, because the meaning behind the song is what is important, not how it is used to portray a group of people. I agree with the song not because it has connotations or mentions of LGBT related stuff, but because the message (everyone is beautiful, everyone is perfect, no matter of race, gender identity, sexuality, or anything like that) really resonates with me.

[Asta Kask]

I thought that was I'm Super!

[Qaera]

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No tablet at school

[Serpentine]

Heh.
Well, the song it's meant to be replacing is I Will Survive. So...

[Tono]

I actually hate that song. The song itself is boring and lacks anything interesting and the choreographer is boring as hell. Then I again I hate most of all her work and would much rather listen (And look at) people like The Darkness, or Dead or Alive. Or pretty much any of the pretty-boys from the 70s and 80s. Even if they arn't explicitly made for 'The gays' I can get a hell of a lot more out of them.

[Serpentine]

How about Scissor Sisters?

[Asta Kask]

A gay anthem?

An anthem is a song of celebration. I think before you choose (or write) an anthem you should decide what you're celebrating. I can think of a couple of things, but I'm not really part of the club, so...

ETA: And happy Star Wars Day!

[Ashtagon]

As a gay anthem, Born This Way fails. It's a dull song, tbqh. Also, the lyrics are not celebratory so much as defensive self-justification for our existence. Not really the spirit to project into an anthem.

Suitably edited with alternative lyrics (change one word as appropriate), I Kissed a Girl works better.

[golentan]

Is this... is this an Australian thing?

Having looked it up, yes it is and .

I kind of like Born This Way. It's got a nice enthusiastic rhythm, but I wish it wasn't so repetitive.

[Serpentine]

I can see it being a lot of fun to dance to in a night club.
And I prefer the other I Kissed A Girl :/

[KenderWizard]

I haven't actually heard the song because I live in the past (it's the early 90s here in Kendermore). I'm going to go listen to it now because it's exam time, and anything on YouTube is good for some procrastination!

I did read this article about it before, where a mixed-race LGBT supporter (not sure if she's a letter or an ally) talks about how she had mixed feelings about the song because the part about different races is really awkward and possibly racist.

[golentan]

I can see it being a lot of fun to dance to in a night club.
And I prefer the other I Kissed A Girl :/

This one? I prefer that one to the other, so much, yes.

[Serpentine]

That is, indeed, the one I meant.

[KenderWizard]

Well, that was really weird. There was a lot more slime and crotch-touching than I had anticipated. I'm not a big fan of people dancing around in just their underwear generally because it often seems exploitative and seedy, even though sometimes it's also Hawt. But that wasn't hawt, because she's so incredibly skinny it made me feel worried about her. Is she getting enough food? Where's her mammy, letting her dance around in her underwear with her ribs sticking out?

But it is a catchy song!

[Tamburlaine]

Hello thread, thought you might enjoy a tale of awkwardness and uncertainty:

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So, I went to the pub with some friends (as you do) and one of them brought one of his flatmates; I was chatting to her throughout the evening, and we got on quite well. A couple of days later I got a text from her, asking if I wanted to go for a drink sometime.

This kind of thing does not happen to me very often, and I was unsure how to respond. If it was a romantic overture, surely it was my duty as a gentleman to diplomatically inform her of my being (as EM Forster once put it) 'an unmentionable of the Oscar Wilde variety'. However, if she was just being friendly, such a reply would come across as a little presumptuous. Adding to the confusion, she probably got my number from her flatmate, and he definitely knows I'm gay.
I thought it over for a bit, and eventually sent a reply along the lines of the first option.

About five minutes later, I was in the supermarket buying food and congratulating myself on my tact and aplomb, when I rounded the corner and very nearly bumped right into the girl in question! That was fun.

On the subject of a 'gay anthem', I personally don't think one song can properly cover a subject so broad and properly fit everyone. I do like Lady Gaga though.

[Asta Kask]

Yeah, that was about as erotic as doing the dishes. She needs to a) eat; and b) stop writing the intros to her songs while tripped out on mescaline. There are words, and they are arranged in sentences but... they just make no sense.

[Tono]

How about Scissor Sisters?

Sorry, missed this. They are fun as hell to watch, but rather boring to listen too? I don't know, something to look at occasional, but not something I could play everyday.

[Blisstake]

How about A.C.D.C?

[Nix Nihila]

Yeah, that was about as erotic as doing the dishes. She needs to a) eat; and b) stop writing the intros to her songs while tripped out on mescaline. There are words, and they are arranged in sentences but... they just make no sense.

Eh? Which lyrics exactly makes no sense in that song?

I also don't think she was trying to be erotic at all.

As for it being "the new gay anthem", I think it does an ok job, but the religious parts make me a little annoyed.

And although I like the other "I kissed a girl", I don't think it really works as a gay anthem.

[Serpentine]

Sorry, missed this. They are fun as hell to watch, but rather boring to listen too? I don't know, something to look at occasional, but not something I could play everyday.

D:
Whaaaaat? Scissor Sisters boring to listen too? Noooooooo!

[Asta Kask]

Eh? Which lyrics exactly makes no sense in that song?

The spoken introduction to the song. Gibberish.

I also don't think she was trying to be erotic at all.

In which case she succeeds beautifully. Now, I may be revealing my dirty mind here, but when women prance around in their undies my first thoughts go eroticism.

The thing is, if she tried to evoke an emotional response - anything - from me she failed miserably. Well, to be fair, boredom is an emotion.

Like I said, I'm not really in the club but I would go for something more like "victory against tough odds". Let's face it, the LGBTA movement has had great successes in the West over the last twenty-thirty years or so. You're not all the way to full citizenship yet (sadly) but keep the pressure up and you'll get there. This video just left me bored and slightly puzzled.

[Serpentine]

So you're sticking with I Will Survive?

[Nix Nihila]

The spoken introduction to the song. Gibberish.

Yeah, that was gibberish, but it isn't a part of the song (assuming you're talking about the video, and not the lyrics where she says "I doesn't matter if you love him, or capital H-I-M").

Now, I may be revealing my dirty mind here, but when women prance around in their undies my first thoughts go eroticism.

Uh, yeah. This kind of annoys me as an art/fashion person. Partial or full nudity is not always about sex.

I don't know exactly what GaGa was going for in the video, but it seems to me that it was about birth rather than sex, but maybe I'm just weird.

The thing is, if she tried to evoke an emotional response - anything - from me she failed miserably. Well, to be fair, boredom is an emotion.

Fair enough, could it be that you just don't like her style of music? I don't know your musical tastes though, so I might be wrong.

As someone who does enjoy a lot of Lady GaGa's work, I have to say that I was rather disappointed with this song in terms of artistic value. I enjoy listening to it, but there are a lot of other songs I'd rather listen to.

[Asta Kask]

No, Lady Gaga is very much not my kind of music to begin with. I feel myself growing narrower and narrower in my tastes as I approach curmudgeon-age.

[Mystic Muse]

Uh, yeah. This kind of annoys me as an art/fashion person. Partial or full nudity is not always about sex.

It's the thing most people I know are going to think of though.

[Nix Nihila]

It's the thing most people I know are going to think of though.

I suppose, but it still irritates me. It sort of reminds me of that teacher who was fired for taking her students to an art museum where there were nude statues..

[Asta Kask]

I tried out some other theories on her nudity, but nothing seems to work. I think she was going for vulnerability rather than birth, but we don't speak the same iconographic language. I'm lost. Maybe I'm too old. Soon I'll only be fit to wheeled out on memorous occasions.

I'm a little gloomy today, you may have noticed.

[Kneenibble]

Thank you to those who replied to my dilemma. I appreciate the sincere advice even though I usually just come in here to goof off or be gross.

I am... processing my thoughts on the matter still.

LIES.
LIES AND SLANDER.
*buttslap*

Whee!
You know just what to say.

But stay away from my potatoes.


P.S. As a member of the ribs-showing community, I take offense to the degredation of our people's capability to be sexy as we are.

[Miscast_Mage]

Not a big fan of the Lady Gaga song; like most of her songs it's kinda catchy, but not great. Still, it is nice to get some LGBT support, regardless. Love the I kissed a girl song though. :3c

Although while we're on the topic of a gay anthem, and just plain LGBT music in general; if I had to pick a song to be the gay anthem, it would probably be this. ~Aaand because I love him singing in Hebrew, here's another of his videos; there's an english version too but I prefer the hebrew version.

Fun fact; this song was one of the things that gave me that twinge-in-the-heart I talked about a while ago.

And now for a plain ol' list of LGBT myuusak:

• Tatu is one of the older ones I can think of. Can't decide if I like them in russian better though.
• Ivri Lider. Also did a cover of I kissed a girl(the Katy Perry version).
• Colton Ford. There's another of his videos, That's me, which I considered posting, but it's A)rather risque, what with colton really playing up the sexy hunk angle, and B)involves a non-sequitor of rap from another artist that... Gah, just should not be there!
• Aaaand I already mentioned Yehonathan. Okay then. :3c

I swear I'm forgetting someone there, but I have no spooshing clue who.

[Lix Lorn]

Best song I could suggest is Mirror, but that might be a personal thing, or something to do with self esteem or wev, rather than sexuality. I dunno.