LGBTAitp - Part Thirteen

[cycoris]

*hugs Golly* I'm sorry they weren't interested.

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Can I join the "totally wants to jump someone right now" club? Even if my skinny, "underweight", bony ass may not survive the violence of said jumping? Not that I'm bitter...

[rayne_dragon]

Aww... *hugs - gently, to avoid crushing bones*

Oddly enough, I could really... go for a big cuddle pile myself. Which is rather odd, since I'm usually the one who wants to jump someone.

[golentan]

*Smacks said bony implement*

Seems perfectly functional for that purpose to me. Go find yourself a... I think your preference is "nice girls" IIRC? And get on that. Or not, as you prefer.

[Mystic Muse]

I'm fine with a hug pile.

Jumping somebody's bones? Not so much. Yes, I have good reasons for this.

[golentan]

Cuddling sounds nice as well.

[cycoris]

*Smacks said bony implement*

Seems perfectly functional for that purpose to me. Go find yourself a... I think your preference is "nice girls" IIRC? And get on that. Or not, as you prefer.

Meep!

It's generally quite a nice bum, if I may say so. And I'm not particular when it comes to sex/gender/combination.

*joins in the cuddlepile*

[Thufir]

And I, too, resent the implication that just because I'm tall and have very little fat and tiny tiny bones means I can't be sexy.

Leaving aside the rubbish-ness of BMI, I disagree with the implied correlation between sexiness and being of a healthy weight. Isn't the stereotype that girls should all want to be skinny because it will make them attractive?

The actual implication is that because you're tall and have very little fat and tiny tiny bones you can't be healthy. Which is still insulting.

Got an appointment to try confirming it with a blood test in a couple more months. Not that I want to jump someone's bones, just that I may be intersex.

It'd be really weird if they could find that out from a blood test.
Also potentially frustrating if it took a while for the results to come through.
"Ooh... Well, [term of endearment], according to these results, you really want to jump someone's bones."
"I did yesterday when you took the blood. Now I'm not in the mood at all any more."
"...Damnit."

Can I join the "totally wants to jump someone right now" club? Even if my skinny, "underweight", bony ass may not survive the violence of said jumping? Not that I'm bitter...

Hey, your ass is fine. Probably. Having never seen it, I'm extrapolating from what I've seen of you in photos.

I get the wanting to jump someone thing from time to time. Should really consider maybe doing something about it sometime.

[golentan]

Meep!

It's generally quite a nice bum, if I may say so. And I'm not particular when it comes to sex/gender/combination.

*joins in the cuddlepile*

Agreed.

Thufir: Except I will never get to jump someone's bones, so the blood test would still be valid.

Not that I can blame people for not wanting to be jumped. I can recognize all the reasons I'd be an offputting mate. But still.

[Coidzor]

I'm going to nominate We Are the Champions by Queen as the anthem of pan-queer nationality, especially since that was its actual purport. I'm a little surprised it hasn't come up yet.

& I'm 26 and my ribs are xylophony, so dammit, it's not unhealthy.

Also, it's Queen and therefore involves Mr. Mercury. Also, it's Queen.

I have not seen many shirtless people older than me, so skinny teenagers are my basis.

It doesn't? I was under the assumption that underweight meant that you where unhealthy and normal weight meant... Well, normal. ^_^'

My hip-waist ratio isn't in the danger zone either, though. ^_^

I wonder if it could have something to do with genetics or muscle-mass, think taht may explain why we disagree?

Well, I was mostly just skeptical, but it does seem possible, though still a bit odd to get that without messing with % body fat.

[Serpentine]

On that note, I'm pretty impressed by Kanye West's pro-LGBT stance. Seems pretty ballsy in an industry where many raps have tons of homophobia (hi, Eminem!).

Why does the world keep trying to convince me to like that prat? Alright, hit me: what's his LGBT stance/where has he expressed it?

Really? That makes me sad now. I mean, when you have a community that is stereotyped due to having an apparently increased proportion interested in the creative arts and you have to co-opt a song from the perspective of a woman surviving domestic abuse as your anthem.

Domestic abuse? Escaping a crappy relationship, sure, a jerk boyfriend, certainly, maybe even some emotional manipulation, but domestic abuse?
And I expect it's a combination of the discoish beat and the catchy affirming chorus that did it.

I'm going to nominate We Are the Champions by Queen as the anthem of pan-queer nationality, especially since that was its actual purport. I'm a little surprised it hasn't come up yet.

& I'm 26 and my ribs are xylophony, so dammit, it's not unhealthy.

Just cuz you're it, doesn't make that so
IIRC, a decent guide for a healthy weight on a dog is when you can feel the ribs, but not see them. Dunno whether that applies to people, too.

I've never really liked We Are The Champions... Haven't heard it for a while, though, maybe I'd change my mind.

Since we're on the subject of weight anyway, what's a healthy weight for somebody who's 6'2? I know I'm more underweight than I should be, I'm just wondering how much more.

What's your HtW ratio?

Hrm. Do you think the ideal HtW ratio would switch for post-op/hormone transexuals? Or would they just have to accept that it isn't as reliable for them anymore?

[Coidzor]

Domestic abuse? Escaping a crappy relationship, sure, a jerk boyfriend, certainly, maybe even some emotional manipulation, but domestic abuse?
And I expect it's a combination of the discoish beat and the catchy affirming chorus that did it.

Ah... I didn't know discoish beats had any kind of + in regards to becoming anthems. Interesting.

Maybe I've just been mishearing the lyrics since I first heard it as a six year old, but the bit about asking if the man thought she'd die always seemed a bit violent.

I really want to jump someone's bones right now.

I think this may just mean that we can all be pretty sure you're not asexual.

[Serpentine]

Uh... Yeah, no. That was "did you think that I'd pine to death for you in your absence or something?", not "did you think you'd murder me?"

[Coidzor]

Uh... Yeah, no. That was "did you think that I'd pine to death for you in your absence or something?", not "did you think you'd murder me?"

Serves me right for never looking up the lyrics.

Guess I need a new getting revenge on one's attempted murderer song.

Even if my skinny, "underweight", bony ass may not survive the violence of said jumping? Not that I'm bitter...

Dated a girl bonier than you've ever seemed to be. As long as you don't have some kind of problem with your skeleton, should be fine.

[Heliomance]

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Me. *bites lip*

[Asta Kask]

I'd go on a date with you. (Based on appearance alone. Personality will influence things.)

[Heliomance]

I think I understand why girls on the whole tend to be so concerned with their appearance. I'm not usually self-concious, but looking at that picture I can see so many things wrong with it >_<

[Partysan]

Maybe you can, but the interesting thing is that I can see many many things right with it.


(That's a convoluted way of saying that you look really nice.)

[Lix Lorn]

Tangential note: I really want to jump someone's bones right now.

Wait... sex-sense... tingling...

...ocean in the way...
...

[Heliomance]

Maybe you can, but the interesting thing is that I can see many many things right with it.


(That's a convoluted way of saying that you look really nice.)

[Lix Lorn]

School stops me seeing it, but my doubts of it's win-ness are approximately equal to my doubts that...
I don't know where this metaphor is going. The doubts aren't there, is what I'm saying.

[Frozen_Feet]

According to the BMI I'm underweight (16.7), and every site that tells me this also has a list of "treatments" for my "condition".

And I, too, resent the implication that just because I'm tall and have very little fat and tiny tiny bones means I can't be sexy.

I'm confused - what does BMI have to do with either tiny bones or looking sexy? (o.O) Bones of an adult human weigh something like 3 kg, so tallness not withstanding, they don't really sway BMI. Likewise, I thought the ideal for beauty currently is tall and thin. Nevermind that sexiness depends on way more factors than just bodystructure.

Leaving aside the rubbish-ness of BMI, I disagree with the implied correlation between sexiness and being of a healthy weight. Isn't the stereotype that girls should all want to be skinny because it will make them attractive?

Uh, there's a noticeable biological correlation between being of healthy weight and being sexy in eyes of others. As noted, cultural ideals can sway it to (sometimes absurd) directions, but it's a proven thing that health is sexually desireable. Being of biologically average bodytype is a sign of health, and thus beauty. Of course, healthy weight is just a portion of being and looking healthy, so it prolly isn't too influential in the long run, especially since many people (like me *cough*) wear clothes that very effectively obfuscate our actual body structure.

The actual implication is that because you're tall and have very little fat and tiny tiny bones you can't be healthy. Which is still insulting.

There is a demonstrable connection between being underweight and being either unhealthy or unfit. It doesn't hold true in all cases, but it seems like an odd thing to be insulted by.

[Serpentine]

I support most of what you just said, but I find it hard to believe that all the bones in the human body would only weigh 3kg Although, maybe dried out I guess...

[Asta Kask]

Yeah, 3 kg seems awfully low. This site gives 12-15% weight (presumably that's healthy weight) so 8-10 kg.

[Frozen_Feet]

Yes, it seems I was wrong. According to Wikipedia, in a living adult, skeleton comprises 30 to 40 percent of bodyweight, half of which is water. However, other sources give varying answer, such as 12% of bodyweight for females and 15% for males, and "about 18%". Maybe they discount water already.

Personally, I recall hearing that the human skeleton weighs only few kilos from my biology teacher. He talked specifically of how "big bones" don't actually weigh enough to explain overweight. It seems I might have remembered the actual numbers wrong, but the general point might still hold true - human skeletal system isn't heavy or variable enough to account for great differences in weight.

[Delusion]

I think I understand why girls on the whole tend to be so concerned with their appearance. I'm not usually self-concious, but looking at that picture I can see so many things wrong with it >_<

Really? Because I don't see any of those things.

[Thufir]

There is a demonstrable connection between being underweight and being either unhealthy or unfit. It doesn't hold true in all cases, but it seems like an odd thing to be insulted by.

Yes, but BMI is a rubbish guide to whether you're over- or underweight - since it doesn't take any account of build, it essentially implies that people are unhealthy because they are of unusual build. That's insulting.

[Serpentine]

That doesn't change the fact that both underweight and overweight people are, generally speaking, less healthy than healthy-weight people.

[Thufir]

That doesn't change the fact that both underweight and overweight people are, generally speaking, less healthy than healthy-weight people.

That doesn't change the fact that you're not necessarily overweight or underweight just because your BMI says you are.

[Asta Kask]

Do we really need to include a W for Weightwatchers in the acronym? It's long enough as it is.

Anthem for FtM

[Heliomance]

Really? Because I don't see any of those things.

The main one is the beard shadow I couldn't get rid of >_>
There's also the fact that I know it's me, so I can't see it as anything other than a guy in girls' clothes.