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    Day 81: CounterInception

    Do you have any idea?

    ANY idea how hard it is to wipe out an idea?

    That idea, that simple idea, sound, of wings beating is the most bloody terrifying antagonist I've ever encountered in any medium ever. We've wiped it out twice now, and God help us if we're going to have to do it a third time.

    Anyway, SiuiS, these are dedicated to you.

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    Day 82: Applied Newton

    Jayden looks goooooood as a Griffon.

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    Haha that's cool. Fire is more rounded. Can't explain myself better. Look at Mario's fireballs?

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    The pose and the position of the limbs looks nice and natural and expressive. Keep trudgin'. :)

    About the scorch marks on the griffon's body... Take care not to make them too uniform. Remember, they are where the fire scorched. Imagine how a flame scorches, and how it would affect the surface of the body in that particular spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanqol View Post
    Yeah, realised that a bit late. A quick edit should fix it!

    I'm still 100% digital; this entire recent set has been done in Corel. I figure I can start looking into the labyrinthine monster that is Photoshop on a need-to-know basis. I do almost everything with the fine point pen tool (1.5 size for my skeletons and 2.6 for my main linework). Most other tools seem to have weird side effects.

    I typically make any picture 2x the desired resolution when starting off so that the minor line imperfections get smoothed over in the resize, and because having a nice big canvas is reassuring and cuddly. I've put the wash/water tools aside in favour of solid fills and the transparency slider, which perform the desired function with none of the annoying side effects. It feels like a pretty decent setup for the level I'm at; I'm not fighting the interface any more, just grabbing my pen and going for it.
    And with but a word, the scales fell from his eyes
    The errors of the past; the wrong-doings and wrong turns
    All made so clear, so vivid
    And in the throes of the revelations upon him
    He uttered but a single phrase, forever shaping the new world set before him;

    "D'oh!"

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    Day 81: CounterInception

    Do you have any idea?

    ANY idea how hard it is to wipe out an idea?

    That idea, that simple idea, sound, of wings beating is the most bloody terrifying antagonist I've ever encountered in any medium ever. We've wiped it out twice now, and God help us if we're going to have to do it a third time.

    Anyway, SiuiS, these are dedicated to you.

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    Hahaha! Banana.
    I am (probably to my detriment, given the concept behind it) curious about the soundtrack. Do one of you have a disk track that is just a wing beat? Did you snare a seagull from the far reaches by the sandy shore, and stuff it in a cage as inspiration?

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    Jayden looks goooooood as a Griffon.

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    Oh! Well that answers the "is that jayden as a griffon" question. Neat!
    Sorry haven't been around, but you've progressed beyond the point where I'd be doing anything other than nagging you for things you can Already see. I feel very weird, posting in the Arts&Crafts section unless it's very pertinent. Poor DirtyTabs, I should lend her moral support anyway...

    Going to leave this on preview, sleep on it. See if anything occurs to me. Speaking of memetic transfer, griffon seems to be the order of the day, does it not? Well done. You seem tohave gotten their basic form down pat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fizzybobnewt View Post
    Haha that's cool. Fire is more rounded. Can't explain myself better. Look at Mario's fireballs?
    I did! And I spent 20 minutes trying to draw one and failing so I went for the easy to draw option. Fire is something I need to figure out, though, so it's on the list for an entire practise day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaytara View Post
    The pose and the position of the limbs looks nice and natural and expressive. Keep trudgin'. :)

    About the scorch marks on the griffon's body... Take care not to make them too uniform. Remember, they are where the fire scorched. Imagine how a flame scorches, and how it would affect the surface of the body in that particular spot.
    Ah! That's a great point, and one that I hadn't considered. Thanks!

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    And with but a word, the scales fell from his eyes
    The errors of the past; the wrong-doings and wrong turns
    All made so clear, so vivid
    And in the throes of the revelations upon him
    He uttered but a single phrase, forever shaping the new world set before him;

    "D'oh!"
    Referring to you or I? Because my reaction to finding the transparency slider was more "Ohhh, so that's how that works"

    Hahaha! Banana.
    I am (probably to my detriment, given the concept behind it) curious about the soundtrack. Do one of you have a disk track that is just a wing beat? Did you snare a seagull from the far reaches by the sandy shore, and stuff it in a cage as inspiration?
    The mind mage erased all his memories of the sound and replaced them with that tap-dancing banana reminding him to Listen To Jayden the next time she warned him about that wingbeat.

    The ST never actually played the sound, though. He just described it as the beating of enormous wings. Though now you've got me thinkin'.

    Oh! Well that answers the "is that jayden as a griffon" question. Neat!
    Sorry haven't been around, but you've progressed beyond the point where I'd be doing anything other than nagging you for things you can Already see. I feel very weird, posting in the Arts&Crafts section unless it's very pertinent. Poor DirtyTabs, I should lend her moral support anyway...

    Going to leave this on preview, sleep on it. See if anything occurs to me. Speaking of memetic transfer, griffon seems to be the order of the day, does it not? Well done. You seem tohave gotten their basic form down pat.[/color]
    I hope that soon I'll get the baseline competence to give DirtyTabs a hand with ponytars when I can. And thanks for what help you have been giving!

    Gryphons are great and I'm going to be doing more of them.
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    Day 83: The Prince

    Incomplete; insufficient time. One hand got jellyfish syndrome. BUT the face is super creepy so net win. Whole bunch of experiments here, as usual tiredness leading me to try something that I think are simple but turn out to be way complex.

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    Day 84: The Mask and the Mountebank

    BACKGROUNDS!

    EDIT: Minor fixes, was rushed out the door when finishing this.

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    Day 84a: Unintentional Art

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    How? It's super effective!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fizzybobnewt View Post
    How? It's super effective!
    As amusing as not telling might be, I took my camera up to a hill at night time and started taking pictures of the city lights using random settings and filters. Some of the pictures worked out oddly beautiful in their screwed-upness.

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    Day 85: The Dove In The Storm

    She wishes the chains were hers.

    All kinds of trickiness involved here. Not perfect, or even done, by a long shot. But I tried a bunch of things I hadn't before and the areas I really focused on - hands, face, and body shape - I made real progress on.

    Character is Ten Feather Quill, from an Exalted tabletop.

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    Day 86: Ponies. Also, guns.

    That's a lot of gun for one little pony.

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    I don't know anything about guns so I can't comment on the last image. instead let me make up for a long absence with a more detailed redline:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanqol View Post
    Day 86: Ponies. Also, guns.

    That's a lot of gun for one little pony.

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    While I'm still learning how to draw as much as you are, I can't help but notice that most of your lines are very uneven. What I suggest is taking a sketchpad and filling the pages with lines, circles, squares and triangle, drawing them as quickly as you can while making them as straight as possible. Your goal is to be able to draw them perfectly and freehandedly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Mask View Post
    While I'm still learning how to draw as much as you are, I can't help but notice that most of your lines are very uneven. What I suggest is taking a sketchpad and filling the pages with lines, circles, squares and triangle, drawing them as quickly as you can while making them as straight as possible. Your goal is to be able to draw them perfectly and freehandedly.
    I was going to say something similar as this, except your goal is not to draw them perfectly and freehandedly. There's this little thing called a "ruler", which you should be making use of instead. (Or the line tool, by whatever name it goes, in your software of choice.)

    Also, what Saeyan said. Redlining over the stuff is probably the best way to illustrate corrections like this.
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    About the guns, they all look incredibly flat. You might want to try drawing them from different perspectives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saeyan View Post
    I don't know anything about guns so I can't comment on the last image. instead let me make up for a long absence with a more detailed redline:*Snip*
    Thanks! I appreciate it! A lot of those flaws I was aware of in a cannot-articulate-why-this-is-wrong sense and my response would be to spend another hour or so messing with the details and seeing if I could get it to look right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Mask View Post
    While I'm still learning how to draw as much as you are, I can't help but notice that most of your lines are very uneven. What I suggest is taking a sketchpad and filling the pages with lines, circles, squares and triangle, drawing them as quickly as you can while making them as straight as possible. Your goal is to be able to draw them perfectly and freehandedly.
    I've actually done this a few times, but not since I switched to the tablet and the relevant practise evaporated in translation. (Well, partially. Still better than when I initially began). I'll get back onto it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Domochevsky View Post
    I was going to say something similar as this, except your goal is not to draw them perfectly and freehandedly. There's this little thing called a "ruler", which you should be making use of instead. (Or the line tool, by whatever name it goes, in your software of choice.)

    Also, what Saeyan said. Redlining over the stuff is probably the best way to illustrate corrections like this.
    Hm, the line tool... I considered doing that, but getting the lines perfectly parallel is tricky and one or two degrees of difference quickly becomes super obvious. Part of the reason for that day was to become less reliant on it. I think I might try the ruler, at least for a while.

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    About the guns, they all look incredibly flat. You might want to try drawing them from different perspectives.
    I'm sure that if I added some shading there'd be a lot more depth. Those were mostly as a draw-straight-lines experiment.
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    OMG there's a little Vaarsuvius there! :D
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    Day 87: 1/3

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    Incomplete. There are full skeletons for panels 2 and 3 here and there's still a lot of tweaks and fixes to do. This is as far as I got in the piece during the time allotted.

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    The orc's thumb needs to be on the other side of his hand. (And the... table? needs ruler appliance.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domochevsky View Post
    The orc's thumb needs to be on the other side of his hand. (And the... table? needs ruler appliance.)
    I saw the table but missed the thumb! Will do those and a bunch of other edits in p2.

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    Day 88: 3/3

    Aw yea. Action scenes.

    I may stick with black and white for a while again, and perhaps try some environments tomorrow.

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    The hand is weird in the second panel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billtodamax View Post
    The hand is weird in the second panel.
    More inconsistent than weird, in that he apparently changed grip inbetween panels. Still, the action in p2 is pretty solid as far as sense of movement goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billtodamax View Post
    The hand is weird in the second panel.
    *Nod* Yeah, I should have gone back and fixed that. Oh well.

    Day 89: Environmental

    I know that I should look at tutorials and my books to find good techniques for this kind of thing, but I felt like just going for it and playing around and seeing what would happen.

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    Day 90: Paints

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    Re 88: The sense of movement in panel 2 is good (the lunge back). Problem in panel 3 is the fact that the perspective is not working.

    As the shooter has returned to sitting upright, but is facing square to the viewer, firing over thier shoulder would be very difficult. It would work better if they were still leaning back, torso twisting to face the attacker more.


    Re 89: the perspective's pretty good for a first go without much reference. The only bits that really look odd to me are the benches, perspective wise.

    If you're looking to work on perspective there's a great series called "How to Draw Manga" which has a couple of volumes just on that sort of thin - practical technical drawing if you will.
    The whole series is good, lots of stuff about proportions, compostition and clothing. Best of all it's available in Australia!


    Re 90: Adding even a little shading gives a lot more depth to the picture :)
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