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Thread: Thanqol Learns To Draw!
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2012-01-26, 08:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Urgh, tell me about it.
Thanks for this; I was trying to think spatially and in basic shapes, but I keep forgetting that basic shapes can apply to everything. Ironically, I was supposed to be practising this throughout minimalism week but then I got flooded with avatar requests! I'll do my best to apply the lesson to all pictures until it's got the hang of.
(If you've got a request waiting, I'll try to finish some tomorrow )
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2012-01-26, 08:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-01-26, 08:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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You can delete posts, you know.
Also, observation. The problem in the pic is not with AJ's left foreleg, but with the right one, and less pronounced than Zorg puts it, as the perspective changes between the measurement points he uses. Just move the right leg a little back and it should seem fine. And "defining" the hoof like that is about the worst thing done, because it makes it seem as if the "wrist" joint bends the wrong way. ("Hay look Rainbow, Ah've broken mah leg!") The actual solution would be to flip the tip of the extended hoof vertically, so as to imply a twist of the leg as if the bottom of the hoof is facing away from the viewer, which would actually make the pose possible. Alternatively, move the point at which the leg bends further up the limb, implying bending at the elbow joint rather than the wrist.
Otherwise, agree on the keg and the cloth bit.Bearer of the Psionic Flame
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2012-01-26, 09:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Agreed, for the most part, though I do think moving the left foreleg was a better move. Also, not sure how much I agree on the keg, that change just makes it look a little ... thin to me, more disk-like and less barrel-like, if that makes sense.
Also, the one thing that sticks out to me the most is that the extended leg is a bit long. It just looks disproportionately long compared to the other legs. And in the edited pic, the left foreleg looks just a teensy bit short.Originally Posted by TheAmishPirateSpoiler: Previous Avatars!
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2012-01-26, 08:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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That was a weight bearing post. It holds up the entire page. Without it we wouldn't be able to proceed in an orderly fashion.
Also, observation. The problem in the pic is not with AJ's left foreleg, but with the right one, and less pronounced than Zorg puts it, as the perspective changes between the measurement points he uses. Just move the right leg a little back and it should seem fine. And "defining" the hoof like that is about the worst thing done, because it makes it seem as if the "wrist" joint bends the wrong way. ("Hay look Rainbow, Ah've broken mah leg!") The actual solution would be to flip the tip of the extended hoof vertically, so as to imply a twist of the leg as if the bottom of the hoof is facing away from the viewer, which would actually make the pose possible. Alternatively, move the point at which the leg bends further up the limb, implying bending at the elbow joint rather than the wrist.
Otherwise, agree on the keg and the cloth bit.
Hearing this, though, makes me realise that I've consistently messed up pony leg sizes recently. I've done better with head/bodies but there's a real case of noodlehooves going on here that I need to sort out. I need to find a mnemonic reminder for leg proportions and joints and memorise it.Last edited by Thanqol; 2012-01-26 at 08:23 PM.
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2012-01-26, 09:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Easier said than done. In several shots, the leg proportions change based on how the artist needs the pony to use its leg. So the position of the hints actually, canonically shifts...
Pony legs are otherwise 1 head in length (in that the circle of the head should be able to just fit between pony belly and floor). The legs are almost evenly split, except that (without extenuating circumstances) the middle 'third' takes priority, and comes out longer. The part between the shoulder and the elbow is also pretty short, compared to the opposite piece that is the wrist to the hoof tip.
Pony legs can be thought of in human terms, if you splay out your fingers into a 5-point formation, and consider that the hoof.
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2012-01-26, 09:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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I know your pain...especially with the ATG running for the past few days! I think I'm finally to the point of saying "I can't figure out a good measuring unit, so I'll just fiddle with them in my sketch layer until they don't look derped".
...it isn't quite the rigorous process I'd like it to be...
One point I'd like to suggest though is to shoot for grace even if you have issues with length; I find that a swoopy but too-long leg looks better than a properly sized but stubby one.This Machine Surrounds Hate And Forces It To Surrender
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2012-01-27, 12:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Right. Thanks. I'll try to remember this
Day 254: Harmony
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Music: Nothing But EverythingLast edited by Thanqol; 2012-01-27 at 12:46 AM.
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2012-01-27, 05:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-01-27, 08:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Day 255: The Disco King
Sorry about the quejump, but I got dissed, and dissing vengeance waits for nopony.
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Music: Solar Empire v Lunar RepublicLast edited by Thanqol; 2012-01-27 at 09:02 AM.
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2012-01-27, 09:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by Hawkflight; 2012-01-27 at 09:24 AM.
Originally Posted by TheAmishPirateSpoiler: Previous Avatars!
Kitty Lacuna by Kymme
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Avatar made by Lightning Bliss.
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2012-01-27, 09:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-01-27, 09:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Disco! Disco!
I'm surprised you didn't do something with the fact he's basically got a crotch laser...
"Harmony" is nice, I like the shading on the mountain and the tree And since I've got to say something the left side of the shadow shouldn't bend out like thatPrincess in the streets.
Princess in the sheets.
Don't touch me I'm royalty.
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2012-01-27, 09:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by TheAmishPirateSpoiler: Previous Avatars!
Kitty Lacuna by Kymme
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Avatar made by Lightning Bliss.
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2012-01-27, 02:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-01-27, 04:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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There was a first draft, believe me, but it's hard to do a crotch thrust with this leg/torso style. I could revisit it at a time that's not 12.30 am but I'd need a reason
"Harmony" is nice, I like the shading on the mountain and the tree And since I've got to say something the left side of the shadow shouldn't bend out like that
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2012-01-27, 10:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-01-27, 11:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-01-28, 03:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-01-28, 10:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Day 256: Hard Countered
Sorry about the delay with this one. I was (and still am) drawing a complete brainblank on composition. If you've got any suggestions or ideas I'd cheerfully make the happen.
How does one pull off the colour green? It's such an impossible colour!
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2012-01-28, 10:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Recent Homebrew: The Socialite | The Crystalline: Memory Altering Construct Race | Sanguine Hand, a ToB Discipline of blood and cruelty
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Thanks to all my avatar artists, especially to Paisley for my avatar of Vivian, cowardly cryophoenix.
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2012-01-28, 08:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Thanks to all my avatar artists, especially to Paisley for my avatar of Vivian, cowardly cryophoenix.
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2012-01-28, 11:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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ADVENTURE!!!!!
My current story ponies-Ponylagann in the Ponythread.
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2012-01-29, 02:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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We'll confer and see if anything comes up ^^
How does one pull off the colour green? It's such an impossible colour!
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She is a strange one, she is. I you do hug her, Nd she doesn't shoot you, I think she would benefit from some head rubbies ^^
@Thanqol: Composition? Male Starry and female starry makeouts :3
In a situation where both bodies possessed one consciousness, it's viable. In a situation like with me, where I'm. Separate iteration, it's eyebrow raising, and not something he would engage in, but is otherwise ambivalent about.
wow, you meant it when you said careful how specific you are! heehee.
Oh! Pic saved by the way ^^
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2012-01-29, 05:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Day 256a: Clean Slate
Ai'ight, with this I'm done with these requests (sorry Tec, but your second request is getting shelved for now). I want to get one or two last things out of the way before I start Dragon Month. Complete mindblankery on drawing recently, I've been thinking in terms of writing, music and people. Hopefully I should pick up the quality again soon.
Pony skulls are weird.
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2012-01-29, 05:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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It's nice to see how you improve and change since the first post. You have become very inspiring and are a kind person! I want to continue to cheer for you.
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It is difficult to speak English, please excuse mistakes kindly m(_ _)m
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2012-01-29, 05:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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