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    Sadly, the majority of the world has not and probably will not ever read the novelization. GL's explanation is the only "canonical"'one for them, terrible and unsatisfying though that may be.
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    I wonder if in Star Trek Birth is given by simple transporting the baby out of the womb....
    They can do it, as seen in voyager, but apparently it's a method of last resort.
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    Right.

    Maybe NOW we can start on the next movie. But probably not. Let's call it about 3 more wrap up strips?

    You'd think Jim would have some decent last words. It's not like he hasn't done this before, after all. Heh.
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    I dunno, we still have to setup where the children go, and maybe find out about anakin. Im waffling on that. The dm may keep that part secret for the big reveal in part 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yana View Post
    Sadly, the majority of the world has not and probably will not ever read the novelization. GL's explanation is the only "canonical"'one for them, terrible and unsatisfying though that may be.
    It wasn't the novelization of the movie- but a novel, set immediately after the movie (Coruscant Knights part I) where Captain Typho (who's always been a little in love with Padme) starts investigating her death. Though he's not the main character of the novel.

    From the Wookieepedia Padme Amidala page:

    Additionally in 18 BBY, Amidala's head of security during her time as Senator of the Chommell sector, Gregar Typho, secretly began an investigation into her death, as while he served under her, he had developed an unrequited love for her. Typho later discovered that Amidala had died due to strangulation, a fact that had initially been missed due to the fact that there were no exterior signs of trauma of any kind (including but not limited to bruising on the neck, scratches, and/or signs of congestion on the neck). Multiple, more in-depth autopsies later all revealed and concluded that Amidala had indeed died of strangulation, and despite the fact that there were no external injuries to conclude this, there were internal ones, such as a fractured hyoid bone, damage to the larynx, and compression of the trachea. Typho soon discovered that Darth Vader was somehow involved in the death of his beloved, and after luring the Dark Lord of the Sith to an abandoned location, with the bait of Jedi Knight Jax Pavan, so as to avenge the senator, Typho himself died at the hands of Amidala's former love and killer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamishspence View Post
    It wasn't the novelization of the movie- but a novel, set immediately after the movie (Coruscant Knights part I) where Captain Typho (who's always been a little in love with Padme) starts investigating her death. Though he's not the main character of the novel.
    They don't do autopsies on major political figures who die under questionable circumstances?

    EDIT: Wait, it looks like they do perform autopsies, but they just don't talk about them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mewtarthio View Post
    They don't do autopsies on major political figures who die under questionable circumstances?

    EDIT: Wait, it looks like they do perform autopsies, but they just don't talk about them?
    That is the kind of thing that happens when the guy who did it is second-in-command of the brutal new regime that just took the reigns of power.
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    They seem to be setting up the next iteration of the game more directly than I had thought they would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamishspence View Post
    It wasn't the novelization of the movie- but a novel, set immediately after the movie (Coruscant Knights part I) where Captain Typho (who's always been a little in love with Padme) starts investigating her death. Though he's not the main character of the novel.

    From the Wookieepedia Padme Amidala page:
    Again, the number of people who read Star Wars novels is vanishingly small. I have read exactly 0, and expect that number to hold steady for the next 20 years. Whether it was the novelization of the movie or a novel set immediately thereafter does not really matter. What matters is that the Great and Terrible Lucas managed to make bank on dreck.

    I expect three more strips before the movie ends. Probably with some amount of angst at the funeral.
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    The thing is here, that I cant really think of a way to end the campaign from here in a suitable way. I mean, jim dies, annie is presumed dead, yoda is going to run off to a swamp, and ben is going into hiding. Oh yeah, and pete is being sent off to a noble and is getting memory wiped. What the hell kind of climatic ending is that?!

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    As far as I remember, R2's memory never got wiped after all. That means he was the only one in the whole original series that actually knew what was going on.

    'Course, how that will translate into the comic is anyone's guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feytalist View Post
    As far as I remember, R2's memory never got wiped after all. That means he was the only one in the whole original series that actually knew what was going on.

    'Course, how that will translate into the comic is anyone's guess.
    Is that from the novels? Because I'm pretty sure there was an order to wipe both droids. Why wouldn't they wipe him? Because he doesn't speak human? Seems like a poor idea given he can communicate otherwise.

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    Is that from the novels? Because I'm pretty sure there was an order to wipe both droids. Why wouldn't they wipe him? Because he doesn't speak human? Seems like a poor idea given he can communicate otherwise.
    I dunno, man. I just read it somewhere. I've never read the novels.

    Oh wait, here we go. Wikipedia mentions it. No references though.
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    Is that from the novels? Because I'm pretty sure there was an order to wipe both droids. Why wouldn't they wipe him? Because he doesn't speak human? Seems like a poor idea given he can communicate otherwise.
    In Ep3, only 3po gets an ordered mind wipe. r2 finds this funny.
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    I think that it might come up in the comic, since it makes sense that Pete would refuse something like that.

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    And now I want to play space pool. Whatever that is.

    OK seriously, these guys are just dragging the finale out now. I'm tempted just to stop reading for like 3 weeks and come back for the next series. Yawn.
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    And now I want to play space pool. Whatever that is.

    OK seriously, these guys are just dragging the finale out now. I'm tempted just to stop reading for like 3 weeks and come back for the next series. Yawn.
    Well, in their defense, this film is a difficult one to end, as Traab noted above. That and the movie kinda takes longer than others to end.
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    Indeed, there are a lot of scenes after the climax of the film. We're impatient to get it completed too, but we have significant bits of story to tell with those scenes.

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    I'm not sure why anyone expected a quick wrapup with a session end after the climatic fight.

    We've never had a session cut off at only 2-3 comics, so I expected this wrap up to last at least a few weeks.
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    Plus it gives us more time to speculate on who will be playing who in the next episode!

    Maybe the DM will play and Annie'll DM, so she still gets to play Anakin.
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    A possibility is that annie wont play as darth vader until the big reveal in episode 5. Frankly, there are so many ways this COULD go that I cant even guess. I mean, remember that this game does not follow the events of the actual movies except in the loosest sense. He might never even GET the name darth vader. (I cant recall if he got the name yet in the game)
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    Be patient, there's so much left to tell in this last part of the film. Looking forward to the next one.

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    Well, now we know the truth... Leia's blaster is a +5/+5 family heirloom which explains how it is so much more sueful than any other not-light saber in the show.


    Also, why is our GM talking so casually in that one bubble at least?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
    Also, why is our GM talking so casually in that one bubble at least?
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    It's not Lucas (I have named the GM Lucas!), it's the NPC.
    Yeah, I realized so later... I didn't notice he spoke with this.. what should I call it... street slang earlier and was a bit surprised.

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    I think the Darth Vader = Anakin deal won't be revealed until Episode V. In the movie, Darth Sidious gave Anakin his Sith title immediately after he killed Mace Windu. In the comic, the name Darth Vader did not come up yet. I think Palpatine will save Anakin, but the PCs won't be able to see his new appearance. The comics will still show him getting into the new suit for the readers' benefit, but the DM will just handwave the whole thing and say, "Palpatine shows up and managed to save Anakin right before he burns to death." When Darth Vader shows up in Episode IV, no one will know his identity until the revelation in Episode V.

    Does "give her my blaster" mean Jim will be playing as Leia in Episode IV?

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    In the novels, "depression" isn't the main cause of Padme's death- unrecognized damage was, from Anakin's Force Choke.
    I'm not sure how well this would work out. Anakin chokes her and she passes out. Obi Wan and Anakin fight each other in a very long fight. Then Obi Wan picks up Padme's body and drops her off, so she can give birth. Death by stangulation usually happens much faster. Even if the Force Choke partially crushed her windpipe, and reduced her airflow over time, she should be gasping for air while she was nearly dying. I doubt someone with a crushed wind pipe has the calmness to name her kids and speak a few dying last words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by random_guy View Post
    I think the Darth Vader = Anakin deal won't be revealed until Episode V. In the movie, Darth Sidious gave Anakin his Sith title immediately after he killed Mace Windu. In the comic, the name Darth Vader did not come up yet. I think Palpatine will save Anakin, but the PCs won't be able to see his new appearance. The comics will still show him getting into the new suit for the readers' benefit, but the DM will just handwave the whole thing and say, "Palpatine shows up and managed to save Anakin right before he burns to death." When Darth Vader shows up in Episode IV, no one will know his identity until the revelation in Episode V.
    It makes more sense to use the Darth Vader birth scene in flashback later, as some sort of big reveal to the players a la Jango and Maul working together. I don't see why they have to show Palpatine save Anakin now at all.
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    Heh, see, this is more like it. Some dialogue to give some background information.

    Plus a speaking corpse, to boot
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    It makes more sense to use the Darth Vader birth scene in flashback later, as some sort of big reveal to the players a la Jango and Maul working together. I don't see why they have to show Palpatine save Anakin now at all.
    That's true. It would also make the big reveal more surprising for the PCs.

    Padme is leaving her grappling hook to Luke. I guess that explains why Luke had a grapping hook available to help Leia flee from storm troopers while they were on the Death Star.

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    That's true. It would also make the big reveal more surprising for the PCs.

    Padme is leaving her grappling hook to Luke. I guess that explains why Luke had a grapping hook available to help Leia flee from storm troopers while they were on the Death Star.
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