Darths And Droids 2: Should've Gone to Naboo

[Gnoman]

I suspect another SW game. They mentioned in 674 that Jim played Kyle Katarn at one time.

[Lizard Lord]

I suspect another SW game. They mentioned in 674 that Jim played Kyle Katarn at one time.

But Jim was the one that ran the game they are talking about...

[Lord Tyger]

It is a description of the game, but the game they are describing isn't The Princess Bride.

I'm stumped too, really, so I'm just going to appreciate how good these guys are at matching character expressions to player tone of voice.

Right, the Princess Bride was run earlier, between two of the Prequels. Pete played Vizzini and was outraged that after his murder, his former allies allied themselves with the Pirate Ninja who'd killed him.

[Lord Tyger]

It is a description of the game, but the game they are describing isn't The Princess Bride.

I'm stumped too, really, so I'm just going to appreciate how good these guys are at matching character expressions to player tone of voice.

Right, the Princess Bride was run earlier, between two of the Prequels. Pete played Vizzini and was outraged that after his murder, his former allies allied themselves with the Pirate Ninja who'd killed him.

[Kato]

Guys, I have to admit I never saw or read Princess Bride... though part of the thing that keeps me from doing so is because I don't know whether to reasd or watch it first.


As for what they were playing... No idea. Nurse and pilots made me think of some real life stuff... Wasn't there that WW II movie about two pilots and a nurse? Pearl Harbor, maybe? Not that I've ever seen that one.

[Stegyre]

Guys, I have to admit I never saw or read Princess Bride... though part of the thing that keeps me from doing so is because I don't know whether to reasd or watch it first.

Read it first. It is a quick read and very engaging (worth re-reading, even), and as is so often the case, the book is better than the movie.

Not that the movie is bad, but it is a very good book. You will have many regrets in life. Reading The Princess Bride will not be one of them.

[Rockphed]

Read it first. It is a quick read and very engaging (worth re-reading, even), and as is so often the case, the book is better than the movie.

Not that the movie is bad, but it is a very good book. You will have many regrets in life. Reading The Princess Bride will not be one of them.

I disagree. The movie is pure gold. The book is but a poor sorry imitation of the movie.

[The Glyphstone]

I disagree. The movie is pure gold. The book is but a poor sorry imitation of the movie.

Yeah, it's like the novelizations of Lord of the Rings, just cheap attempts to cash in on the movies' success.

[Gez]

Yeah, it's like the novelizations of Lord of the Rings, just cheap attempts to cash in on the movies' success.

You know, I have actually seen LotR novels that were cheap attempts to cash in on the movies' success. I mean, I think it was the same text as the more serious editions, but they had made everything they could to make it look like a novelization of the movies (re-using the movie posters for the book cover, plenty of screencaps along the pages, etc.). I've also seen Narnia getting the same treatment.


On the Princess Bride subject, I've seen the movie because I had been told it was on TV (I normally never watch TV but I made this an exception); but I've yet to read the book because I've never seen it in the local library (it's a tiny one).

[Emperordaniel]

You know, I have actually seen LotR novels that were cheap attempts to cash in on the movies' success. I mean, I think it was the same text as the more serious editions, but they had made everything they could to make it look like a novelization of the movies (re-using the movie posters for the book cover, plenty of screencaps along the pages, etc.). I've also seen Narnia getting the same treatment.

My last copy of Prince Caspian was one such book, with a bizarre blend of screencaps and original drawings spread throughout the book. Since the film didn't follow the book that well, this sometimes led to some awkwardly-labeled images.

[guttering flame]

Despite the impression the movie might give you, the book is in fact a novelization of the movie and is inferior to it.

[Yuki Akuma]

Princess Bride the novel: 1973
Princess Bride the movie: 1987

Yes, the novel is absolutely a novelisation of the movie.

[Rockphed]

Princess Bride the novel: 1973
Princess Bride the movie: 1987

Yes, the novel is absolutely a novelisation of the movie.

Huh? The way the book goes, it reads like a weird attempt at novelising the movie. I guess the movie was just a really successful attempt at adapting the book.

[Androgeus]

Princess Bride the novel: 1973
Princess Bride the movie: 1987

Yes, the novel is absolutely a novelisation of the movie.

time travel.

[Lord Tyger]

Despite the impression the movie might give you, the book is in fact a novelization of the movie and is inferior to it.

Well, no. I understand there's a lot of confusion about the book.

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There is no S Morgenstern!

But it did predate the movie. However, the format of the book, specifically Goldman's commentaries on his abridgement of S Morgenstern's original work-

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There is no S Morgenstern!

have been updated with each new edition of the book, which is why a book first published in its widely known form in the seventies and written considerably earlier than that by S Morgenstern

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DR. MCLUCHADOR IS SECRETLY DR. MCNINJA!

may contain references to the making of the movie adaptation.

[Stegyre]

Well, no. I understand there's a lot of confusion about the book.

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There is no S Morgenstern!

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There is no S Morgenstern!

And I am shocked. Shocked! To learn this.

But we are still no closer to knowing what movie/book/play DnD is refering to. (And I submit that it must be something, as that's part of the humor: no one would ever take two pilots and two medics in an rpg.)

The authors have stumped us.

[D_Lord]

I read the book, it is worst then the movie. The author had depression when he wrote the ending. There was a reason it was cut out of the movie. It changed the toin big time.

[lotusblossom13]

I thought they were referring to pearl harbor, but the whole fencing thing has me stumped, also the doctor who does not want to be a doctor

[Mando Knight]

also the doctor who does not want to be a doctor

Sally played Ben.

[mattie_p]

My wife insists that it is "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest." She made me post this immediately, wanting bragging rights should she be proven right. I guess we'll see.

[Landis963]

My wife insists that it is "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest." She made me post this immediately, wanting bragging rights should she be proven right. I guess we'll see.

How does she explain fencing and the two pilots?

[mattie_p]

With fencing she is defeated. But that whole phase (fencing, fighting, revenge, escapes, true love, miracles) might be exaggeration, metaphor, and/or hyperbole.

Regarding the pilots: she thinks some of the mental patients were pilots who got shell shocked and are no longer pilot-capable.

She now admits that she might be wrong, they might not be pilots, and asks the internet gods to not smite her. I told her to never admit defeat, to stick to her guns, and to smite right back.

So.. umm, Landis, where is the fencing and pilots in M*A*S*H?

[Lord Tyger]

With fencing she is defeated. But that whole phase (fencing, fighting, revenge, escapes, true love, miracles) might be exaggeration, metaphor, and/or hyperbole.

Regarding the pilots: she thinks some of the mental patients were pilots who got shell shocked and are no longer pilot-capable.

She now admits that she might be wrong, they might not be pilots, and asks the internet gods to not smite her. I told her to never admit defeat, to stick to her guns, and to smite right back.

So.. umm, Landis, where is the fencing and pilots in M*A*S*H?

There are Helicopter pilots, though none of them are main characters. No fencing, AFAIK.

Edit: Although on second thought, there is implied to be a thriving black market.

[The Glyphstone]

The Catch-22 idea fits if you take the alternative meaning of 'fencing'. Yossarian and Dobbs as the two pilots (the latter being shell-shocked), Doc Dankeeka as the doctor who doesn't want to be a doctor, and Nurse Duckett as the nurse.

Yeah, I'm sort of cherry-picking minor characters, but it's the best I got.

[Lord Raziere]

fencing and pilots…..and a doctor whom didn't want to be a doctor….

I'm guessing…..Firefly? it had fencing in one episode, I'm pretty sure it had a pilot, and hopefully a second, and there was a doctor in it…..

but I'm not sure if the doctor doesn't want to be a doctor if there was a second pilot in it….

probably not, but still…..firefly.

alternatively? it could be a gundam or mecha thing. those have pilots and fencing at the same time since such mecha have swords, and of course, doctors to heal the mecha pilots.

[mattie_p]

Lord Tyger, agreed, none of the main characters are pilots, so both my wife and I discount it.

I really think that whole fencing sentence is bogus. The description of "a war Epic" probably fits.

The Catch-22 idea fits if you take the alternative meaning of 'fencing'. Yossarian and Clevinger as the two pilots (the latter being shell-shocked), Doc Dankeeka as the doctor who doesn't want to be a doctor, and Nurse Duckett as the nurse.

I personally liked Catch 22 as an option, as well as an independent work of literature.

Although it goes against the grain of movies-as-campaigns-in-Darths-and-Droids, which is a significant factor against it, as far as I am concerned.

We need some fresh opinions.

[The Glyphstone]

That, and I had to cherry-pick heavily to get the characters to match up, using some rather minor names.

[Landis963]

When I made that prediction(I.e. The MASH one), I didn't think to take the Princess Bride quote into account, and I thought the Comic Irregulars could apply some artistic license or something.

It could be Blackadder for all we know. (Although that doesn't have pilots either )

[BannedInSchool]

It's boat pilots!

;)

[The Glyphstone]

It's boat pilots!

;)

Well, it's an idea....can anyone think of a movie that features two boat pilots (one of them shell-shocked), a nurse, and a reluctant doctor?