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    Quote Originally Posted by Flame of Anor View Post
    What, what, what's the name? I completely missed that and I don't have a copy handy...
    I think he was called Bozzak in OtOoPC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonCat View Post
    Yes, that bit's odd, but it's not odd that they remember a gender at all, which is what B was about.
    Given that Elan, Belkar, and V have rather specific ideas as to what the Oracle was like, obviously the intent is that the memory charm causes the subject’s brain to make up details appropriate to the subject’s expectations. That one of those details should be the Oracle’s sex or gender should hardly be surprising.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shhalahr Windrider View Post
    Given that Elan, Belkar, and V have rather specific ideas as to what the Oracle was like, obviously the intent is that the memory charm causes the subject’s brain to make up details appropriate to the subject’s expectations. That one of those details should be the Oracle’s sex or gender should hardly be surprising.
    ...I know. That's obvious. It just seems that Roy and Durkon changed their minds, since they both referred to the Oracle as a she in the prequel. Of course they decide according to their expectations, I've been saying that the whole time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireDrake View Post
    I think he was called Bozzak in OtOoPC.
    Oh, okay. So it's not like "Garbarbarfituse" or something completely different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flame of Anor View Post
    Oh, okay. So it's not like "Garbarbarfituse" or something completely different.
    No, just a different letter. Bozzok, Bozzak.
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    Maybe it's his first and last names? Bozzok Bozzak sounds kinda awesome.
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    I assume you mean Girard and no.
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    ah, that's right, purple.
    And yes, I meant Girard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flame of Anor View Post
    1 to 6 is just perspective--it's the same shirt.
    No it is not, she is seen from the same angle. Actually i think it is the same shirt but she just make it more revealing.
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    I just noticed that Elan is full of cactus spines in the last but one panel here: 692

    Also, in 696, he actually writes into sand "gate!!1!".

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    Jenny appears in panel 3 of 581

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    Jenny appears in panel 3 of 581
    Not to mention the extra ace in the blond's boot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninjaman View Post
    No it is not, she is seen from the same angle. Actually i think it is the same shirt but she just make it more revealing.
    I'm pretty sure it's an art error, the V-neck is missing in the first panel by mistake.
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    Personally I think the mistake is its presence in the sixth panel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimsilsbo View Post
    I only just noticed that Belkar seems to have lost his face in panel 2 of page 2. That, or he's taking a very good look at Haley's rear; though that is a possibility, based on his recent comments on Roy...
    He's actually a doppelganger and for a second forgot to concentrate on maintaining his shapechange completly

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    I just realized that Roy's "mistake" in asking his question of the Oracle (leaving out Soon's gate) actually meant that he didn't waste his question. He didn't need the Oracle to tell him that Soon's gate was next, but he did need to know where Xykon was going after Azure City.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay R View Post
    I just realized that Roy's "mistake" in asking his question of the Oracle (leaving out Soon's gate) actually meant that he didn't waste his question. He didn't need the Oracle to tell him that Soon's gate was next, but he did need to know where Xykon was going after Azure City.
    But had Roy discovered that Azure City was next to be attacked they would have had much longer to prepare. They could have called all their forces back, maybe gotten support from the other allies including the Elves. Their high level members could have scry and died a portion of the army. Plus Miko probably wouldn't have fallen and that high level Wizard would have been alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay R View Post
    I just realized that Roy's "mistake" in asking his question of the Oracle (leaving out Soon's gate) actually meant that he didn't waste his question. He didn't need the Oracle to tell him that Soon's gate was next, but he did need to know where Xykon was going after Azure City.
    If it wasn't for Nale butting in and delaying them, then it would have been a waste.

    In the grand scheme of things, Roy's question was very helpful, but if it weren't for a meddling bad guy, the Order would have probably missed the war (not that they did much in regards to the Gate, but Hinjo would probably be dead).
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    But had Roy discovered that Azure City was next to be attacked they would have had much longer to prepare.
    Not by much: the OOTS takes no time getting to Cliffport, takes three-and-a-half days to return (as stated in #387), fights the Linear Guild that very night, and Miko returns with the news the next day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gift Jeraff View Post
    In the grand scheme of things, Roy's question was very helpful, but if it weren't for a meddling bad guy, the Order would have probably missed the war (not that they did much in regards to the Gate, but Hinjo would probably be dead).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurald Galain View Post
    Not by much: the OOTS takes no time getting to Cliffport, takes three-and-a-half days to return (as stated in #387), fights the Linear Guild that very night, and Miko returns with the news the next day.
    They must have returned to Azure City before going to Cliffport in order to pick up Lord Shojo's wizard, so that would have been at least four days' additional warning the city would have got. Plus they would have had a teleporting wizard who could go out and fetch some of the higher level Sapphire Guard from wherever they happened to be, and Xykon showed what a difference some high-level people could make!

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    None of which changes this one fact: they knew where to go afterwards because of Roy's question, phrased the way it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay R View Post
    None of which changes this one fact: they knew where to go afterwards because of Roy's question, phrased the way it was.
    And that doesn't change this one fact: if they'd stopped Xykon at Azure City--which they might have been able to, given enough warning--there wouldn't have been any need to go anywhere afterwards!

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    Quote Originally Posted by factotum View Post
    And that doesn't change this one fact: if they'd stopped Xykon at Azure City--which they might have been able to, given enough warning--there wouldn't have been any need to go anywhere afterwards!
    The biggest difference isn't even really the battle. Its one person likely not being in place to make the most egregious mistake of the comic. Miko's final break very likely wouldn't have happened(at least not in the same way) and Miko being anywhere else during the battle but where she is would have allowed Soon to kill Xycon.

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    I just realized.... Leekey's hawk.... Kitty..... Kitty Hawk.....

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    Okay, so in 126 Elan suggests that even though he has never been seen studying with Vaarsuvius, it should be retroactively assumed that he did anyway. This doesn't work because V objects. Then later, in 217, he simply asserts that he has been studying with V, even though we still haven't seen that, and since V isn't around to object, it actually works.
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    I would call that an Alternate Interpretation. The only reason it 'didn't work' the first time is because Elan ended up not going for a Wizard level after all.

    Besides which, later we DO see Vaarsuvius giving Elan help with his illusions, so the notion that it happened earlier isn't crazy in any way.

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    http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0782.html


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    I really wish I saw that fight, it sounds like it was awesome. Also, Enor is described as a "Blue Dragon Thing," which made me chuckle a bit for some reason.

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