Vote Up A Campaign Setting 2 (Now in Open Discussion)

[afroakuma]

Tallied!

Voting closes on this poll... enh, whenever I wake up tomorrow. I don't expect a major reversal in the last hour.

[Omeganaut]

Quick everyone, vote for Heroic, just to confuse Afro!

[afroakuma]

Apparently not.

So, it should come as no surprise to anyone that the winning Theme is Genesis!

Now, onto the next poll, a very important one with many ramifications. Please read the descriptions carefully when deciding.

Voting for the setting's Magic Level has begun.

Requests for "no magic" or similar will not be entertained.

[ragingrage]

Very High Magic
This is the world at its beginning. Magic should be there, warping it away from what it naturally would be.

[The Witch-King]

Not to start trouble but would it be possible to have a situation where druidic/primordial divine magic is Very High but arcane magic is non-existent at first--because it hasn't yet been invented...

[Mercenary Pen]

Moderate Magic

Maybe magic as used by people and creatures is still in the process of being created?

[afroakuma]

Not to start trouble but would it be possible to have a situation where druidic/primordial divine magic is Very High but arcane magic is non-existent at first--because it hasn't yet been invented...

That's up to the Build Team to decide.

[Timeless Error]

Not to start trouble but would it be possible to have a situation where druidic/primordial divine magic is Very High but arcane magic is non-existent at first--because it hasn't yet been invented...

I agree with this.

EDIT: Ninja'd by afroakuma!

[bryn0528]

Low Magic, please.

[Able Sindor]

I'm imagining a new world where the magic is still shifting from its creation so as a result
Very High Magic

[Omeganaut]

I vote for High Magic. Yes, I am a big fan of doing new things, but I feel like that amount of magic would fit a new world. Very High magic would imply that intelligent creatures can change the world with average effort, and Moderate is just too low for a world that has just been created. Also, having very high magic might cause otherwise non-magic classes to expect to have some magical abilities.

[afroakuma]

Tallied through Omeganaut.

[Fax Celestis]

Put me down for High.

[Chainsaw Hobbit]

I vote for Very High.

[LordZarth]

The specifics are all up to the Build Team to figure out, but I think we can offer suggestions. If we do go with Very High Magic - which is where my vote is going - then I think some pretty "different" things can be done with it. I don't think magic needs to be all that useful to people in this virgin world: i.e., the magical rapid transit, magical sewage, and magical telepresence that might be expected to make an appearance under Very High Magic can stay at home. Magic should be prevalent in the Garden World, but not necessarily harnessable by its inhabitants except at great risk. I think that Very High Magic should change our newly-created world in the following ways:

1. Nearly everyone, so close to the dawn of time itself, should wield some degree of magic. Children should be starting flames with their fingers and force of will, warriors should be sharpening their swords with a quick invocation alone. I'm thinking innate magic here, simply by virtue of their proximity to Creation. But really, very little: when I say starting flames, I mean replacing flint, and getting sparks out of thin air - not calling a roaring fire into being. This would provide flavour more than anything.

2. Magic should be absolutely everywhere. Okay, maybe not literally everywhere, but if one covers several miles in a day the chances of him coming across some wild magical force should be nearly 100%. I'm thinking fantastical landmasses, wild Gates, and perhaps even pure leftover (or currently working) Creation magic, visible like the Aurora Borealis.

3. All of the above being said, real magic-users should be less common than in your average D&D setting. Only, those few should be extremely powerful: able to regularly call on innate and outside forces inconceivable to cut-price mages in Planescape. ...maybe this would cause magocracies?

Excuse my idea-rant.

[AJ_Impy]

The ancient, primordial magic of old is the current, present magic of now. The power of the Gods themselves still courses through the realm. There have been no great cataclysms that sunder the links between mortals and power, or earn the ire of the gods. This is a time of naivety, a time of novelty, a time when health and safety isn't even a glimmer of a whisper of a dream. Sorcery would be boiling in the blood of the first people, still tingling with the awesomely powerful magics that brought them into being. This is the generation touched by the Gods, walking through their direct, firstborn handiwork. Anything less than Very High Magic doesn't quite do it.

[Veyr]

Not to start trouble but would it be possible to have a situation where druidic/primordial divine magic is Very High but arcane magic is non-existent at first--because it hasn't yet been invented...

The sort of "setting magic", that is, the magic of gods and the primordial shapers and the like, is, as Afro said, going to be up to us. With the Genesis theme, it's likely to be quite high, for obvious reasons.

This poll is more about how much magic mere mortals have. If you think mortals (e.g. Clerics, Druids) should be able to tap into the hefty amounts of magic around, then High Magic or Very High Magic is probably for you. On the other hand, if you think that mortals shouldn't be able to, then Low Magic is probably more your fit.

If you literally mean Divine vs. Arcane, that's a detail that's not being asked in this poll; that will depend on how Arcane magic gets fluffed. This is literally whether or not a given level of magic should be available to characters, in some form or another.

[Chainsaw Hobbit]

The specifics are all up to the Build Team to figure out, but I think we can offer suggestions. If we do go with Very High Magic - which is where my vote is going - then I think some pretty "different" things can be done with it. I don't think magic needs to be all that useful to people in this virgin world: i.e., the magical rapid transit, magical sewage, and magical telepresence that might be expected to make an appearance under Very High Magic can stay at home. Magic should be prevalent in the Garden World, but not necessarily harnessable by its inhabitants except at great risk. I think that Very High Magic should change our newly-created world in the following ways:

1. Nearly everyone, so close to the dawn of time itself, should wield some degree of magic. Children should be starting flames with their fingers and force of will, warriors should be sharpening their swords with a quick invocation alone. I'm thinking innate magic here, simply by virtue of their proximity to Creation. But really, very little: when I say starting flames, I mean replacing flint, and getting sparks out of thin air - not calling a roaring fire into being. This would provide flavour more than anything.

2. Magic should be absolutely everywhere. Okay, maybe not literally everywhere, but if one covers several miles in a day the chances of him coming across some wild magical force should be nearly 100%. I'm thinking fantastical landmasses, wild Gates, and perhaps even pure leftover (or currently working) Creation magic, visible like the Aurora Borealis.

3. All of the above being said, real magic-users should be less common than in your average D&D setting. Only, those few should be extremely powerful: able to regularly call on innate and outside forces inconceivable to cut-price mages in Planescape. ...maybe this would cause magocracies?

Excuse my idea-rant.

I completely agree.

[Ringwrym]

Very High Magic

[Rainbow Servant]

Moderate all the way home!

[Qaera]

Let's get some Very High up in here.

[The Witch-King]

The sort of "setting magic", that is, the magic of gods and the primordial shapers and the like, is, as Afro said, going to be up to us. With the Genesis theme, it's likely to be quite high, for obvious reasons.

This poll is more about how much magic mere mortals have. If you think mortals (e.g. Clerics, Druids) should be able to tap into the hefty amounts of magic around, then High Magic or Very High Magic is probably for you. On the other hand, if you think that mortals shouldn't be able to, then Low Magic is probably more your fit.

If you literally mean Divine vs. Arcane, that's a detail that's not being asked in this poll; that will depend on how Arcane magic gets fluffed. This is literally whether or not a given level of magic should be available to characters, in some form or another.

In that case, my vote is for Very High Magic.

[afroakuma]

Tallied through WitchKing.

[Alchemistmerlin]

Garden Genesis, this is turning out rather...common.


Oh well.

Very High please.

[afroakuma]

Hardly common; I don't know of any other setting using the Genesis theme.

[LordZarth]

Garden Genesis, this is turning out rather...common.


Oh well.

Very High please.

Yeah... I've never seen this before. It's cliché, perhaps, in the sense that Very High Magic Genesis Garden World seems to fit together, but that's not a bad thing.

[Morph Bark]

I'd like to see the normal races of the world be generally Low Magic, but that there is access to powerful magic through gods, magic-imbued areas and artefacts. Because it seems like this vote would be regarding the overall level of magic, or the highest level available, I'm going for Very High Magic.

[Chess435]

Very High Magic it is!

[Thinker]

The specifics are all up to the Build Team to figure out, but I think we can offer suggestions. If we do go with Very High Magic - which is where my vote is going - then I think some pretty "different" things can be done with it. I don't think magic needs to be all that useful to people in this virgin world: i.e., the magical rapid transit, magical sewage, and magical telepresence that might be expected to make an appearance under Very High Magic can stay at home. Magic should be prevalent in the Garden World, but not necessarily harnessable by its inhabitants except at great risk. I think that Very High Magic should change our newly-created world in the following ways:

1. Nearly everyone, so close to the dawn of time itself, should wield some degree of magic. Children should be starting flames with their fingers and force of will, warriors should be sharpening their swords with a quick invocation alone. I'm thinking innate magic here, simply by virtue of their proximity to Creation. But really, very little: when I say starting flames, I mean replacing flint, and getting sparks out of thin air - not calling a roaring fire into being. This would provide flavour more than anything.

2. Magic should be absolutely everywhere. Okay, maybe not literally everywhere, but if one covers several miles in a day the chances of him coming across some wild magical force should be nearly 100%. I'm thinking fantastical landmasses, wild Gates, and perhaps even pure leftover (or currently working) Creation magic, visible like the Aurora Borealis.

3. All of the above being said, real magic-users should be less common than in your average D&D setting. Only, those few should be extremely powerful: able to regularly call on innate and outside forces inconceivable to cut-price mages in Planescape. ...maybe this would cause magocracies?

Excuse my idea-rant.

I don't think we will be rewriting a bunch of spells for the campaign setting, though there likely will be some tweaks to spell lists and classes. This is a campaign setting for DnD and as such we would like to include as much material from the PHB as possible. Things will be refluffed in a manner that makes sense for the setting.

Garden Genesis, this is turning out rather...common.


Oh well.

Very High please.

Is having an expected outcome a bad thing?

[Szilard]

Low. Mayhaps the gods are still in control, with people at the mercy of the world.