Debate: Elan or Nale

[JackRackham]

Who is the elder twin?

[LrdoftheRngs]

Twin means that they were born at the same time. One of them would be a few minutes older, if that's what you mean. If that is the case, then I would assume Nale.

[Blisstake]

Considering there's just about no evidence that suggests either one, this isn't a really good debate topic.

[Esprit15]

If I remember right one flashback said "Nale! Stop hitting your little brother in his soft, underdeveloped head!" or something similar to that.

[Mutant Sheep]

I don't understand this thread. is it like a Vaarsuvius "vote counting" thread that was around a couple weeks ago?

[Dakaran]

If I remember right one flashback said "Nale! Stop hitting your little brother in his soft, underdeveloped head!" or something similar to that.

That's from comic 50 and the quote is "Nale! Stop hitting your twin brother in his soft undeveloped baby skull!" Sadly it doesn't help the "debate" in either direction.

[Esprit15]

That's from comic 50 and the quote is "Nale! Stop hitting your twin brother in his soft undeveloped baby skull!" Sadly it doesn't help the "debate" in either direction.

Dang, I thought that I had something. Oh well.

[Dakaran]

Dang, I thought that I had something. Oh well.

Ha, yeah. I was hoping to prove you right by looking it up. Oh well.

[legomaster00156]

Who is the elder twin?

[Esprit15]

That is a perfectly valid question. Or do you think that they both come out at the same time?

[Dakaran]

That is a perfectly valid question. Or do you think that they both come out at the same time?

Oof, that would be mighty painful for their mom.

[Esprit15]

Oof, that would be mighty painful for their mom.

I can only imagine how bad one child at a time is. Two would be cruelty.

[Mutant Sheep]

Who is the elder twin?

*cough*cough*

I think that this whole idea is bad and you should feel bad.

Wheres G-Man Graves when you need him? He's great at killing dumb threads.

[Kurald Galain]

Who is the elder twin?

Elan, because his name comes first alphabetically. And that's as good an argument as you're going to get in here.

[Cizak]

*cough*cough*

Wheres G-Man Graves when you need him? He's great at killing dumb threads.

While I agree that there aren't much evidence to make this a good debate, "who is the eldest twin" is a perfectly legit question. You don't believe they both come out together, do you?

[Zerg Cookie]

While I agree that there isn't a single friggin evidence to make this a good debate, "who is the eldest twin" is a perfectly legit question. You don't believe they both come out together, do you?

Fixed that for ya.
Also, no, I don't believe they came out together, but who's older makes no difference whatsoever

[Cizak]

{{scrubbed}}

[FujinAkari]

While I agree that there aren't much evidence to make this a good debate, "who is the eldest twin" is a perfectly legit question. You don't believe they both come out together, do you?

Age doesn't work that way. They were both conceived at the same time.

[The Dark Fiddler]

You don't believe they both come out together, do you?

We don't know they didn't. Magic and all.

Age doesn't work that way. They were both conceived at the same time.

Age is usually counted from when you're born, unless you're saying I should be telling people I'm 17 (conceived in January) rather than 16 (born in October)?

[Cizak]

Age doesn't work that way. They were both conceived at the same time.

Er, you count your age from when you are born, not when you are conceived.

[derfenrirwolv]

Nale. the older sibling is always the evil one.

[Esprit15]

Nale. the older sibling is always the evil one.

I forgot that that's a common thing. So obviously since Rich doesn't want to be stereotypical he made them the opposite as that! [/conflict]

[Theodoriph]

Nale is older. Elan is genre savvy. He knows that traditionally older brothers are predominantly the ones who are evil/stupid/die young, while the younger brothers are traditionally the protagonists. He would have made sure to let Nale go first.

[Bedinsis]

Nale is older. Elan is genre savvy. He knows that traditionally older brothers are predominantly the ones who are evil/stupid/die young, while the younger brothers are traditionally the protagonists. He would have made sure to let Nale go first.

Furthermore, Tarquin is genre savvy. And Evil. So I believe in the choice of which child to keep, he would take the one he'd think would turn out evil, i.e. the older one.

But then again, perhaps he just saw that Nale hit Elan as an infant and deemed "he's more likely to turn up Evil.", regardless of which order they were born.

Regardless, I fail to see the point of this debate. It's not as if it will ever turn out to be important. (I think).

[factotum]

That is a perfectly valid question. Or do you think that they both come out at the same time?

Speaking as someone who *is* a twin, I have to ask: what relevance does it have? Unless one was born before midnight and the other one afterward, so they technically have different birthdays, does it matter which one is older?

[FujinAkari]

Er, you count your age from when you are born, not when you are conceived.

In that case, they were born at the same time. I count my age from my birthdate, not my birthminute.

[Kish]

The concept of elder and younger twins is a common one; I'm puzzled that so many people in this thread seem to find it odd.

That said, there is no evidence, currently, of the answer to the thread-starter's question.

[Cizak]

In that case, they were born at the same time. I count my age from my birthdate, not my birthminute.

Ugh, even if you are twins it still means that one will be born before the other, therefore that twin is older. It's really not that hard to grasp.

[Esprit15]

Speaking as someone who *is* a twin, I have to ask: what relevance does it have? Unless one was born before midnight and the other one afterward, so they technically have different birthdays, does it matter which one is older?

It doesn't matter what gender Vaarsuvius is either but we have a debate thread for that. We ask because "Why not?"

[Temotei]

Ugh, even if you are twins it still means that one will be born before the other, therefore that twin is older. It's really not that hard to grasp.

Easy.

I think it could go either way. Nale would be very happy to get an opportunity to push his brother without repercussions, so pushing him out of the womb first would make Elan the elder. However, Nale's also into power. If being older than someone else means power over them to Nale, he's probably the elder.

Also, the argument of Elan making himself come out second because of genre savviness makes sense (in the twisted world of comic humor, anyway).