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    Well, I guess it would make political scandals more interesting, but then doctors in clinics would probably need mind bleach for stories as to where these afflictions originated from. As in, someone would have to research a spell named mind bleach.

    EDIT: That is, assuming that all of the world's doctors haven't run off to spar with people to try to trade out their RHD for cleric or wizard levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honest Tiefling View Post
    Why not psionics to dominate people? Through politics would be more interesting if they were forced to all use Perform (Singing) or Perform (Dance).
    The problem of course would be that they choose to use Perform (Oratory) and nothing would have changed. They could say absolutely nothing in such an inspiring way that we'd follow them to the ends of the Earth to defend it.

    Then again, you'd have those politicians who instead use Perform (Weapon Drill) and that's a whole other can of worms.
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    That is why you pass laws that all speeches, hearings and discussions must happen in song and dance form.

    What would be worse is fire performances, but luckily you do not automatically fail on a 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiftmongoose View Post
    No no, it would be that the politician's a bard with charm person and max ranks in diplomacy. Maybe even *gasp* mass suggestion!
    Naw, that's how [INSERT TINFOIL HAT CONSPIRACY GROUP] would run the government behind the scenes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Honest Tiefling View Post
    Well, I guess it would make political scandals more interesting, but then doctors in clinics would probably need mind bleach for stories as to where these afflictions originated from. As in, someone would have to research a spell named mind bleach.
    Well, keep in mind that diseases are usually Fort based, so people would get infected less. And also, no need for research, you just need to get past the anti-[evil] agenda to cast Mindrape.
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    Professional wrestling is never invented because the rules for grapple are too complicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksheep View Post
    The problem of course would be that they choose to use Perform (Oratory) and nothing would have changed. They could say absolutely nothing in such an inspiring way that we'd follow them to the ends of the Earth to defend it.

    Then again, you'd have those politicians who instead use Perform (Weapon Drill) and that's a whole other can of worms.
    Perform (Weapon Drill) requires access to Iron Heart Surge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merk View Post
    Professional wrestling is never invented because the rules for grapple are too complicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NNescio View Post
    Perform (Weapon Drill) requires access to Iron Heart Surge.
    No, that's Perform (Drill Weapon).
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    How many times, when the Fighter says "I draw my sword", did you just want to smack that cheating-optimizer in the face and say "No! You don't draw your sword! You draw Orcus!". When the Cleric says "I run away from Orcus!": "No! You run into Orcus! Rogue tries to hide? He hides behind Orcus! The bard in a tavern on the other side the town tries to order a drink? How about a nice frothy mug of Orcus?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NNescio View Post
    Perform (Weapon Drill) requires access to Iron Heart Surge.
    No, anyone can use it. However, re-reading it, it turns out that a Bard cannot use Perform (Weapon Drill) to perform his Bardic Music abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welknair View Post
    *Proceeds to google "Bride of the Portable Hole", jokingly wondering if it might exist*

    *It does.*

    What.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksheep View Post
    No, anyone can use it. However, re-reading it, it turns out that a Bard cannot use Perform (Weapon Drill) to perform his Bardic Music abilities.
    Really? What if he uses a sword with grooves cut into it so that it makes different notes when he swings it at different speeds and angles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksheep View Post
    No, anyone can use it. However, re-reading it, it turns out that a Bard cannot use Perform (Weapon Drill) to perform his Bardic Music abilities.
    Iron Heart Surge ends that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiftmongoose View Post
    Iron Heart Surge ends that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tome of Battle
    ...select one spell, effect, or other condition currently affecting you and with a duration of 1 or more rounds. That effect ends immediately.
    Page 66ish.
    I haven't seen this before, so I just looked it up. Does that include effects like gravity? And it says the effect ends...not just for the character, the effect just ends. Period. Is that a viable RAW interpretation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noparlpf View Post
    I haven't seen this before, so I just looked it up. Does that include effects like gravity? And it says the effect ends...not just for the character, the effect just ends. Period. Is that a viable RAW interpretation?
    Yes. Of course, it's as viable as the commoner/horse railgun, but still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noparlpf View Post
    I haven't seen this before, so I just looked it up. Does that include effects like gravity? And it says the effect ends...not just for the character, the effect just ends. Period. Is that a viable RAW interpretation?
    That would be a viable interpretation. That's why a lot of people say that it's totally broken when going by RAW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Welknair View Post
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    What.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noparlpf View Post
    I haven't seen this before, so I just looked it up. Does that include effects like gravity? And it says the effect ends...not just for the character, the effect just ends. Period. Is that a viable RAW interpretation?
    No. But it's what happened. "Other condition" can mean anything, so anything that lasts six seconds or more can be IHS'd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NNescio View Post
    Yes. Of course, it's as viable as the commoner/horse railgun, but still.
    I'd say the commoner railgun is pretty viable. A similar effect can also be achieved with the Truenamer utterance Speed of the Zephyr and a suitably long wall.

    So you can end effects like mortality, or being human, or gravity, or the need to breathe? What if you end the effect "not having Str 50"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noparlpf View Post
    I'd say the commoner railgun is pretty viable. A similar effect can also be achieved with the Truenamer utterance Speed of the Zephyr and a suitably long wall.

    So you can end effects like mortality, or being human, or gravity, or the need to breathe? What if you end the effect "not having Str 50"?
    Here's a series of escalating posts from another thread:

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    Step1:Be a water elemental warblade.
    Step2:Walk onto land.
    Step3:Iron heart surge.
    Step4:???
    Step5:laugh
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    And the sequel:
    Step1:Vampire Warblade.
    Step2:Belt of battle.
    Step3:Take a step into the sun.
    Step4:Activate belt of battle (2 charges for standard action).
    Step5:Iron heart surge.
    Step6:???
    Step5:Laugh
    Quote Originally Posted by NNescio View Post
    Next sequel:

    Step 1: Be a living organic Warblade.
    Step 2: Get a Wizard buddy.
    Step 3: Teleport into space. (No, things don't just go kablooey in space, and suffocation takes some time.)
    Step 4: Iron Heart Surge
    Step 5: ???
    Step 6: Laugh
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    Not nihilistic enough.

    Step 1: Be an incorporeal warblade.
    Step 2: Iron Heart Surge the Material Plane.
    Step 3: ????
    Step 4: Laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NNescio View Post
    Here's a series of escalating posts from another thread:
    I have some too!
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    452. Iron Heart Surge does not remove the condition "dead".

    453. Or the condition "alive".

    454. Or the condition "surrounded by incompetent fools".

    455. Or the condition "has only two arms".
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    456. Or the condition of "has to meet feat prerequisites".

    457. Or the condition of "can't be any level I want".

    458. Or the condition of "isn't a god".

    459. Or the condition of "can't wield a sword by holding it with my mouth".
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    460. Or the condition of " not having Iron Heart Surge on ".
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    461. Or the condition "Isn't rich enough"

    462. Or the condition "The rest of the party is mad at me"

    463. Or the conditions "Isn't immune to X"
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    464a. Iron Heart Surge does not remove the condition "No more ToB for you".
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    478. Iron Heart Surge doesn't remove the condition "isn't Roronoa Zoro".

    479. Or the condition "can't cut through entire ships and buildings with one slash".

    480. Or the condition "doesn't have the sword skills of Mihawk and Zoro combined".

    481. Or the condition "isn't Fire Lord Zuko".

    482. Or the condition "isn't the Avatar".
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    483. Whatever I'm thinking about saying, Iron Heart Surge doesn't do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NNescio View Post
    Here's a series of escalating posts from another thread:
    Sweet. I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiftmongoose View Post
    I have some too!
    I can see why those made it onto that thread. I like it.

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    Attempting to use Iron Heart Surge can often lead to the player removing the 'not being beaten upside the head' condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honest Tiefling View Post
    Attempting to use Iron Heart Surge can often lead to the player removing the 'not being beaten upside the head' condition.
    Then you can just remove the condition of the player "not having AC 5000". Because Iron Heart Surge can affect the player too, since the player's mental condition affects the character; hence, the player's pain and blunt force head trauma affect the character and can be removed.

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    I think if there was a DM of real life, your strategy would either make them explode or weep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honest Tiefling View Post
    Attempting to use Iron Heart Surge can often lead to the player removing the 'not being beaten upside the head' condition.
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    Go right ahead! My ego is getting very stroked by this thread.

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    If the world worked by RAW

    Cat owners are feared and prosicuted by everyone, and cat ladys are some of the most powerful Druids around.

    Grabbing anyone visably slows down time around the person, as reality attempts to remember how the grappling rules work again.

    Lunitics wandering around, breaking into peoples homes and taking there stuff are a major issue for any town, for there aften very powerful and screaming " I am a PC! Leave me in peace!'

    Martial arts movies become a whole lot cooler.

    Every goverment position is filled with Rouges and Bards. Nothing realy changed,

    LcB is the new nukes.

    Most menile jobs are handeled by the undead or golems.

    Your average man on the streets may be a commener or a Barbarien with all his rages left. Take caution.

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    As a question, has anyone ever gotten the commoner rail gun to work with cat ammunition?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokonic View Post
    Cat owners are feared and prosicuted by everyone, and cat ladys are some of the most powerful Druids around.
    "They called me mad, mad I say! Said I could never train cats. But now I have ranks in handle animal, and training a cat is just as easy as training a dog under these rules!"

    If it were like this, I would be an outcast druid or ranger, on the run, gathering as many stray cats as possible with my wild empathy ability, to save them from death. I have a good enough wisdom score (at least 14) to be a druid or ranger. I would multiclass a level of wizard so I could have the alarm spell, plus grease and some other stuff is useful. Wish I could multiclass sorcerer, but that's why there's the spell mastery feat, since I don't have high enough charisma.

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    I seem to recall an ACF for a wizard illusionist, that allows them to treat all illusion spells learned as if under the Spell Mastery Feat. So, if your book is lost you can still recant illusions. Better then nothing...

    Now for my addition.

    "Tattooists start getting increased business by strange people who point at non-nonsensical markings in books. This doesn't really phase them however, as most assume it's just some sort of henna tattoo."

    "A group of alleged terrorists today assaulted several hidden government buildings today, leaving said buildings ransacked and defiled with graffiti. Key witnesses say that it was a shadowy group lead by a floating suit."

    "Breaking news, we have discovered a vital document to said alleged group, but police are having difficulty deciphering it. Comments about the document were scarce, but some comments have been made. 'We do not yet know what this means, but it is labeled as Shadow Builds. So far, we have discovered that this build, probably some hideout, is lead by self-proclaimed beguilers and shadowdancers, what ever those are.'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokonic View Post
    Every goverment position is filled with Rouges and Bards.
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    "Breaking news, we have discovered a vital document to said alleged group, but police are having difficulty deciphering it. Comments about the document were scarce, but some comments have been made. 'We do not yet know what this means, but it is labeled as Shadow Builds. So far, we have discovered that this build, probably some hideout, is lead by self-proclaimed beguilers and shadowdancers, what ever those are.'"
    "Crack government agents are currently retraining their skill ranks into Decipher Script and attempting to take 20."
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