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2011-09-20, 01:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
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2011-09-20, 04:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
I think the Doctor was with Eakin on the earlier discussion. This might not have been the worst thing he's ever done - he's done some pretty awful things - but it was a brutal, difficult decision to make, and he was clearly not happy about the need to make it.
Which is part of what made it both extremely dark and ultimately redemptive. The Doctor knew that he was doing something wrong in order to prevent something worse, and he regretted it even as he did it.If you like my thoughts, you'll love my writing. Visit me at www.mishahandman.com.
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2011-09-20, 06:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
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2011-09-20, 07:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
Don't forget, people.
Rule #1: The Doctor lies.
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2011-09-20, 07:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
Which is why Old Amy's attitude isn't totally surprising, but so what? I never said Old Amy's attitude made no sense. For the Doctor, Rory, and Young Amy though, Old Amy is no more non-existent because they saw her than she was if they never had.
So, if the copied person sees it in such terms, so must the Doctor. He's no slouch on ethics or philosophy, so he knows the shaky moral ground he's on. Greater good and all of that, but there's no clear white-hat way out of this jam. It's blue and orange at its finest--who do you kill, if one must die?Last edited by Reverent-One; 2011-09-20 at 07:54 PM.
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2011-09-20, 08:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
Ignoring the tired old debate above for a minute;
In the most recent episode, there's a line that slips by all too quickly, regarding Rory's Fears or something similar, after which the Doctor calls him out on having just said it in past tense.
Anyone else catch that, or remember what was actually said? It seemed strangely important.
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2011-09-20, 08:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
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2011-09-20, 09:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
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2011-09-20, 09:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
He said "After all the time I spent with you in the TARDIS, what was left to be scared of" Which perked my interest when I heard it.
I dunno what it means but I don't think it's him thinking of the Doctor in the past tense. Immediately after he denies saying it in past tense when the Doctor picks up in it too, so it has to be a subconscious thing at the very least.
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2011-09-21, 01:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
Rory is referring to his travels with the doctor in the past tense because he's not scared of any who monster. He is scared of the legendary Granny Granger. She and her brutalism are the only thing that scares Rory.
But seriously, I think that line was one from an early script draft where Rory had a fear room that they forgot to cut.
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2011-09-21, 02:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
that's one hell of a logical jump...
I don't think that's the case, because the Dr picking up on it would have made it noticeable in post production..they wouldn't have left in a mistake as obvious as that.
whether it means more than Rory being tired of the Dr.'s antics and shoddy retirement plan, I don't really know..I'd like it if it did..but I'm not so sure.
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2011-09-21, 05:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
I'd also go for him referring to an empty fear room or something to that extent, though I guess they didn't show it on purpose to keep things mysterious. But what could there possibly have been that Rory Williams would be afraid of? Chuck Norris?
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2011-09-21, 06:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
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2011-09-21, 07:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
I'm pretty sure it's going to turn out to be in some way relevant. It felt very much like the scene in the previous series with Amy, in the forest.
Also, as the Doctor left his Room 11, didn't he also say something like "Sleep Tight"?
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2011-09-21, 08:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
He put a 'Do Not Disturb' sign on the door, don't remember him saying anything
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2011-09-21, 08:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
I went back and checked. Yeah, I'm imagining things now. :)
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2011-09-21, 08:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-09-21, 08:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-09-21, 10:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
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2011-09-21, 12:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
SpoilerHey, I just read that by this weeks episode (the one with Craig and the Cybermen), 200 years will have passed for the Doctor since he left Amy and Rory back on earth.
So the Doctor is now as old as he's supposed to be when he "dies". I wonder if maybe this is a writers' joke about the fan disagreement over his age. Various offhand comments in the old series suggested that his age should be a couple centuries older than he has been giving it in the new series. Well, now it is.
I also wonder if they'll ever touch upon what he's been up to in the intervening years. We saw a few clips back in the first episode this season (gets painted nude by a nobleman's wife and escapes prison, fights during World War 2, cameos in a Laurel and Hardy film), and I imagine we can expect novels and things set during this period, since it seems too good an idea to pass up.How to Play Rogues Properly:
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2011-09-21, 02:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
SpoilerIt was the Doctor that was killed at the Lake. It could not have been a ganger or the Tessalacsomething because he actually talked to River about future events and people, such as Jim the Fish (still building his dam). I doubt the Doctor could just lie about the shared adventures without tripping himself up. I suspect the main point of the finale would be the Doctor (or his companions) changing a fixed point in time (the doctors death) especially as the small people considered it a fixed point.
Minor issue with a previous episode is that the small people stopped with Hitler because it was too early in his timestream to give him Hell (they go after criminals at the end of their lifecycle.) but had no problem with a newly regenerated River Song.
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2011-09-21, 02:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
Spoiler
Maybe the rules are bent when the criminals they are after are time travelers themselves, since with a Time Traveler, it's harder to confirm where they are in their personal timeline/ the Tiny People were so eager to make such a big score that they jumped the gun.
As for Lake Silencio, I think that Moffat has confirmed that it WAS the Doctor (not a robo-duplicate, or a Fleshclone, or anything else), and that he DID die.
Basically, at this point, I think anything they do to get around that is going to be considered a Cop Out. If they go back in time and make it not happen, then Time Travel just becomes a Reset button, any other explanation is going to accuse Moffat of "Cheating" somehow.
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2011-09-21, 02:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
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2011-09-21, 02:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
No it's not a logic jump. In "The Doctor Dances" the Doctor says to Captain Jack "change of plan we don't need the bomb". There was no plan with the bomb, no mention of the use of the bomb and thus no need to change the plan for a bomb they don't need. Moff says that line is in there because nobody remembered to cut it.
And with regards to what Rory is scared of, I continue to promote my fan theory that Rory is scared of his Granny Granger: the only being in the universe more bad ass than him. She once killed a Dalek and a weeping angel by sucking on an egg!
And the Doctor's room: budget cuts, the very monster that put the time lord to sleep for decades.Last edited by Sunken Valley; 2011-09-21 at 06:35 PM.
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2011-09-21, 03:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
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2011-09-21, 05:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
"'But there's still such a lot to be done...'
YES. THERE ALWAYS IS."
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2011-09-21, 06:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-09-21, 09:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
Who exactly is this "Granny Granger" you keep mentioning? Did I miss something?
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2011-09-22, 02:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
Here in a series of false teasers (of which 5 have come true). Number 16. Behold granny Granger in her canonness.
Apologies for the mistake. I am not the most badass person in the universe. at all. That title belongs to Rory Williams and Granny Granger. I am however, the second best reviewer in this thread
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2011-09-22, 08:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Doctor Who thread II: "I should have a hat like that." [SPOILERS]
Time for another one of these, I think.
Continuing my plan to post what I think to be the highlights of every season of Doctor Who, old and new.
For each series I'll try to choose 2, maybe 3 of what I consider to be the best stories, which may comprise any number of actual episodes (somewhere between 1-14, typically 4 or 6). Older Who is nearly always episodic, with NuWho most episodes are self-contained. Feel free to expand on my brief comments, agree, disagree etc. This is, after all, purely subjective.
Previous Posts:
Season One
Season Two
Season Three
Season Four
And now...
Season Five (1967-1968)
Second Doctor/Jamie/Victoria/Zoe
Tomb of the Cybermen – okay, so the cybermats are rubbish, but there is a great location shot near the start, and then there's that iconic scene of the cybermen emerging from hibernation, plus its one of the few Troughton stories where the whole thing exists intact rather than in photo-reconstruction form.
The Abominable Snowmen – a great Tibetan period location (well, North Wales, but hey), used imaginatively to give a great atmosphere, typical in the Troughton era of an isolated group under siege. Excellent voice acting by Wolfe Morris for Padmasambhava/The Great Intelligence. Shame the yeti look so cute. Best Quote – Jamie: Have you though up a clever plan, Doctor? Doctor: Yes Jamie, I believe I have. Jamie: What are you going to do? Doctor: Bung a rock at it!
The Web of Fear: The yeti again, although scarier. The first appearance of Lethbridge-Stewart. Atmospheric London Underground setting. Morally ambiguous characters. What’s not to love?
Honourable Mentions
The Ice Warriors – another iconic foe of the early Doctor(s) first appears here. It’s a fairly good story too, but the ones above are better for their coherence.
The Fury From The Deep – first appearance of the sonic screwdriver, actually being used as a screwdriver. The foam and cellophane are not so scary, but the characters Mr. Oak and Mr. Quill are extremely creepy.The Lazy GM series. Lovingly crafted pre-gen monsters for Pathfinder and OGL d20 fantasy.