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    Very true! I just haven't been thinking about proportions and exact numbers at all, so at least some in the mix should be an improvement? Plus, I figure, people have different sized heads, right? And proportions change as people age, I think this "8 heads" deal is specifically the rule of thumb for adult males? The tutorials were saying 7 or 7.5 for women, and while it didn't go into children, I'm pretty sure that a baby isn't 8 heads tall. At... least I hope not

    Overall, I'm less excited over the specific heads tall deal than I am over having a good way to gauge the length and joint placement for limbs. Maybe my people won't be (as) stubby or gangly anymore!
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    Day 54 - Winners never Quit
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    Just time and energy to get the pose and skellington done tonight. I like this from the waist up. The legs and feet feel funny to me, but my power levels are dropping too low to be useful. Ima sleep on this and get started early when I get home from work tomorrow. This will definitely haunt me in my sleep...

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    I... am... alive!

    Day 55 - Scum of the Earth
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    Not much to say on this now, except here it is, it's a person. Trying a little bit of action pose. Singing's an action, right?

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    Day 56 - Sleepytimes
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    It would seem that as exhaustion draws stronger and stronger, I draw more ponies. Ah well. Nothing special to report here for today, I suppose. There's that tree again.

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    Started out good but then i saw the squiggly lines in the upper right. That better not be leafes.

    (Rapper guy looks solid overall. Weird right fist and i'm not entirely sure about his leg size differences, given his pose, but apart from that... )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domochevsky View Post
    Started out good but then i saw the squiggly lines in the upper right. That better not be leafes.
    Confession time!

    I don't know how to draw leaves. Not without spending hours and hours doing them individually D: Scribbles work on trees at a distance, but it all falls apart close up...

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    (Rapper guy looks solid overall. Weird right fist and i'm not entirely sure about his leg size differences, given his pose, but apart from that... )
    Yeah, my ska guy's (what, isn't it obvious?) right fist exists in noneuclidean space, and is apparently unable to be properly expressed in merely two dimensions. That or I'm still bad at hands :S Also you are very right about that leg. I think... it should be both a bit bigger, and a bit further down and to the left of the page?


    Day 57 - Leave 'em Hanging
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    So, I've realized something that has been bothering me about my tablet drawing, and that is the fact that I don't have my brushes set up to vary in darkness with my pressure, like a regular pencil does. I spent a good 20 -30 minutes exploring my different options that Elements has available to me.

    Then... then I frigged them all up, I don't know how to get back to default, so I gave up and did a hand study

    Enjoy!

    (Hopefully I can get this straightened out by tomorrow, that's when I was planning on doing my art updrage )

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    Shoddy example, go! o/



    (Personal secret: I have the density control disabled by default for my linework. It's all solid black. The only thing that changes is line width. Much cleaner and makes it easier to work curves. >_> )

    Also: I can't draw leaves either.

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    okie doke, posting this now so I can edit stuff in. Consider it the forum version of repeatedly saving every couple minutes.

    FIRST! wehavethe late and now no-longer-relevant spiel about anatomy.
    My suggestion for non-tutorial learning is pornography. Sometimes they do useless marvel superhero poses, but most of the time a discerning eye can pick out anatomical functions and combinations. Otherwise, you're looking at years and years of subtle osmosis.

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    Examples of what have helped me build anatomical insigh. Over the last 13 years.


    Quote Originally Posted by Capt. Ido Nos View Post
    Thanksgiving + Family + Actually found this AMAZING cache of anatomy tutorials and studies that I have actually been reading and processing = A few days to relax from most commitments, but coming back strong tonight with a good handful of practice drawings.

    Sometimes you just gotta do some booklearnin' instead of pencilwork. No worries, I'm back tonight and I will have something to show for it

    *chases Amish with beatstick*
    Good stuff. An indrawn, chrysalis stage is sometimes needed. The drawing in of energy before springing forth from the seed.

    Posted in thanqol's art thread you say?

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    Day 53 - Proportionally better
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    So, I spent the last several days digesting all seven of the amazing anatomy tutorials that Silviya linked to in Thanqol's drawthread. They were, in short, exactly the studies that I was looking for. I'm so thankful for these, they have been nothing if not eye-opening on all the stuff I haven't figured out on my own (read: pretty much everything).

    So! Here is my second first attempt at putting what I've read and seen into practice. The first one looked similar, but as soon as I finished I realized I made the poor guy like 3 and a half heads wide instead of two and a half, and he looked like he had eaten a small volkswagon.

    This guy is my first real attempt at proportions and some rough musculature while thinking I know what I'm doing. He is 8 heads tall, 2.5 heads wide. His arms and legs are their proper lengths and I FINALLY have a good point of reference on where to take the hands down (and finger length as well). He doesn't have a face and I only draw the shape of the feet, but I did give him modesty hulkpants, and I am really pretty happy with how this turned out.

    Also as I side note, I've been pretty pleased with this brush thickness from the last few days. For some bizarre reason a 45px brush on a 300ppi A4 canvas just feels right.

    Gonna try and get some poses and different angles out tomorrow, but this is has been a groundbreaking step for me today, I believe. (Of course this is an open invitation to tear it all down around me if I have just missed the point completely)
    Very nice. Consider frame of reference though; head measure is arbitrary. Instead of "he's too wide" I see his head being too small. Everything else looks like what I'd expect from a body builder proportions-wise so assuming 95% is wrong instead of 5% is wrong is he kind of rut you want to avoid.

    It's very well done, too. Just be careful about learning leg art in the side-by-side knees locked position; you'll start to suffer from "draw straight leg, Photoshop it in half" art structure. The knee is a fabulous mechanism; it's one of like, 5 bones off-hand that exists in a floating state within other tissues rather than directly attached. It's a cop-style floating armor piece over an otherwise unprotected hinge, which is where the knee's distinctive shape comes from.

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    Confession time!

    I don't know how to draw leaves. Not without spending hours and hours doing them individually D: Scribbles work on trees at a distance, but it all falls apart close up...


    Yeah, my ska guy's (what, isn't it obvious?) right fist exists in noneuclidean space, and is apparently unable to be properly expressed in merely two dimensions. That or I'm still bad at hands :S Also you are very right about that leg. I think... it should be both a bit bigger, and a bit further down and to the left of the page?
    You're drawin lines from the waist down, not putting lines onto a person :P

    Remember, even if you can't see it, everything connects. His left thigh; shouldn't that line start to tuck upward around the hamstring before fleshing out and rounding into the curve of the buttock? That's the biggest issue, because that thigh looks too fat and I think you too all your proportion cues from the thigh.

    The pose is awkward, but not impossible. I am speaking of his frot leg ending in his back foot, and his back leg ending in the nearest foot, of course. Novel, dynamic and unstable.

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    So, I've realized something that has been bothering me about my tablet drawing, and that is the fact that I don't have my brushes set up to vary in darkness with my pressure, like a regular pencil does. I spent a good 20 -30 minutes exploring my different options that Elements has available to me.

    Then... then I frigged them all up, I don't know how to get back to default, so I gave up and did a hand study

    Enjoy!

    (Hopefully I can get this straightened out by tomorrow, that's when I was planning on doing my art updrage )
    Very nice! Good hand work and the line thickness looks intentional (leaps and bounds beyond my own skill >>;). I approve!
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    WARNING! Capt. Ido's caffeine dropped off HARD in the middle of this post, but he had written a few parts towards the end first. As a result the apparent sanity and comprehensibility of this post goes up and down seemingly at random. You have been warned.

    Quote Originally Posted by Domochevsky View Post
    Shoddy example, go! o/



    (Personal secret: I have the density control disabled by default for my linework. It's all solid black. The only thing that changes is line width. Much cleaner and makes it easier to work curves. >_> )

    Also: I can't draw leaves either.
    Density control. You mean like... opacity, or how light/dark the lines are? I think I have mine set like that by default, but on that particular day, I don't know what I did with my brush settings ^^;; I fixed it though! Now I can draw regular again! I do like the clean look, though I've been missing pencils lately.

    I will be eternally grateful to whoever can show me how to draw leaves en mass well D:

    Quote Originally Posted by SiuiS View Post
    okie doke, posting this now so I can edit stuff in. Consider it the forum version of repeatedly saving every couple minutes.

    FIRST! wehavethe late and now no-longer-relevant spiel about anatomy.
    My suggestion for non-tutorial learning is pornography. Sometimes they do useless marvel superhero poses, but most of the time a discerning eye can pick out anatomical functions and combinations. Otherwise, you're looking at years and years of subtle osmosis.

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    Examples of what have helped me build anatomical insigh. Over the last 13 years.
    Late, perhaps, no longer relevant? NEVER! Years and years of subtle osmosis, I think I can dig it. I'll give a spin over to my library and see if I can find those books, or perhaps that glass skull you have there... A good book never hurt.


    Quote Originally Posted by SiuiS View Post
    Good stuff. An indrawn, chrysalis stage is sometimes needed. The drawing in of energy before springing forth from the seed.

    Posted in thanqol's art thread you say?
    Yup, right here!

    Quote Originally Posted by SiuiS View Post
    Very nice. Consider frame of reference though; head measure is arbitrary. Instead of "he's too wide" I see his head being too small. Everything else looks like what I'd expect from a body builder proportions-wise so assuming 95% is wrong instead of 5% is wrong is he kind of rut you want to avoid.

    It's very well done, too. Just be careful about learning leg art in the side-by-side knees locked position; you'll start to suffer from "draw straight leg, Photoshop it in half" art structure. The knee is a fabulous mechanism; it's one of like, 5 bones off-hand that exists in a floating state within other tissues rather than directly attached. It's a cop-style floating armor piece over an otherwise unprotected hinge, which is where the knee's distinctive shape comes from.
    Head measure is arbitrary! I did decide that I would base that guy off the head as the base measurement, so his head looked super teeny. I think I could have made it work with some adjustments, but this was the body shape I was going for. Good point on the rut though. ... Gosh, I was just about to give an excuse for that. Dang, like everything I'm saying and planning on saying is excuses explaining my decisions. MAN CUT IT OUT, IDO.

    The knee is a lot more complicated than I thought. I mean, I knew the basic biology behind it, but I didn't realize that the representation of it was as difficult and subtle as it is! I thought it was like, horizontal swoosh done. I will keep in mind not to always lock the legs. Kinda fun to draw it that way though, all the same DOING IT AGAIN AUGH yes Siuis sir .__.


    Quote Originally Posted by SiuiS View Post
    You're drawin lines from the waist down, not putting lines onto a person :P
    See, I read the words, and I do not understand what they mean. What do?


    Quote Originally Posted by SiuiS View Post
    Remember, even if you can't see it, everything connects. His left thigh; shouldn't that line start to tuck upward around the hamstring before fleshing out and rounding into the curve of the buttock? That's the biggest issue, because that thigh looks too fat and I think you too all your proportion cues from the thigh.

    The pose is awkward, but not impossible. I am speaking of his frot leg ending in his back foot, and his back leg ending in the nearest foot, of course. Novel, dynamic and unstable.
    First paragraph: yes.

    Second paragraph: I could very much see the pose that this guy is doing in my head, but the "perspective" on his legs and feet placement escape me It probably isn't very stable even if I did get it right, but then again I kind of have this as a dynamic pose, a snapshot of a singer mid song, so maybe he wouldn't look very balanced in a specific instant? Also I may have unintentionally given this a weird "camera angle". I don't remember if I meant to do that, or if it just happened...


    Quote Originally Posted by SiuiS View Post
    Very nice! Good hand work and the line thickness looks intentional (leaps and bounds beyond my own skill >>;). I approve!
    ^///^

    Moving on, Day 58 is my Line Weight/technique that I posted in the other thread yesterday. Tomorrow for everyone's sake I am doing to resize and link to them from here :)

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    Just doin' some quick(ish) doodles tonight. I have decided that I will have an undertaking concerning my favorite Derpy on the side, but before that I need to 1) get this form down and 2) draw it more quickly, both of which I need work on. Cleanup will come later, and will be easier once I have this nonsense nailed down a bit more. Don't worry, I won't be filling this up with her. Though to be fair, I think I will probably use poni as a starting point for more complex anatomy studies later on. I realized that MLP, which simple, still uses techniques that can carry over to drawing peoples, perspective, and more, so at the least, I can get some training wheels under me instead of being pulled in a wagon.

    Day 60 is underway right now, but won't be posted until tomorrow, when it will be posted in conjuncture with Day 61. I'm trying to get some ground made up from before, but at the same time I'm getting exhausted, and that's not the best state to draw in if I want to improve...

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    Lesson learned: when I finish a piece, save it for web, and then upload it to the web, the next step in this order is not "go to sleep" it turns out it's actually "post the picture". I'm so smart you guys

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    Yet more derpy, this time face. Derpy is fantastic practice at this form in general, even though I only got it right like once. It's nice to draw, in any case. Moving right along!

    Day 61 - Ido's Request Chatroom
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    "Hey irc, what should I draw next? First three suggestions get made."

    "Midnight!"
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    I see day 60 took a good dose of Mavpel dust there.

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    Huh, the captain has a draw thread? I wonder if...

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    So, when asking the ponythread irc channel what I should draw, the lesson learned here is the answer is probably going be some combination of "ponies" and "barely even makes sense with context".

    Turned out alright, I think. MLP:FiM is a nice and simple style, and I really like using that fat pen. Not a style for everything, but I'm starting to get the feel for this one, and that's a good thing I think. (I won't be drawing ponies every day, I promise!)
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    I see day 60 took a good dose of Mavpel dust there.
    If my Mavpel you mean muffins, then PROBABLY!

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    I know I said that the thick brush was good, but you know what, I'm not so disappointed how a thin line turned out either! I have to keep convincing myself that I'm not wasting all my time drawing pony though. Practice is practice at this point

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    So, just a quick qualifier: this is actually yesterday's work, but I spent more than twice as long as I normally do on any given day. It was originally going to be a fast 15 minute sketch, then I really got into it, next thing I know it was nearly 2am and I needed sleep. I was going to post it and go to bed, but then I got a mistake pointed out, and it was too late to fix it, so I just did that tonight, so here we are!

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    This is the final piece, below are last night's lineart and colored piece unedited:

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    I keep drawing the necks too long, and so I made myself fix it after the fact, because even on MLP, proper proportions are important! It was a bit of a pain to fix, but worth it, I think. If anything, I can sleep better about it.



    A little bit of color work along with the typical lineart. Definitely not the fastest color method I went with, but it was fun to scrape out, and at this point that counts for a lot in my book. Thanks goes out to Topaz for giving me the subject matter idea

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    Well, bonus points for showmanship, i'd say. Now pull a bunny out of that hat.

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    This here was why the rules for my Drawthread were 'one piece, every day, no excuses'. Because once you let yourself make one excuse then you'll let yourself make a dozen. Priorities will slip. You can put it off, and put it off, and put it off and forget about it all together and then remember four weeks later and promise yourself you'll get caught up on the weekend but something else will come up -

    You broke the flow, Ido. You had a good reason, sure, but you let that good reason kill your momentum. And you've lapsed as a result. It's better to spare 15 minutes to draw, even in an otherwise hellish day, if for no other reason than to make a promise to yourself that this is temporary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanqol View Post
    This here was why the rules for my Drawthread were 'one piece, every day, no excuses'. Because once you let yourself make one excuse then you'll let yourself make a dozen. Priorities will slip. You can put it off, and put it off, and put it off and forget about it all together and then remember four weeks later and promise yourself you'll get caught up on the weekend but something else will come up -

    You broke the flow, Ido. You had a good reason, sure, but you let that good reason kill your momentum. And you've lapsed as a result. It's better to spare 15 minutes to draw, even in an otherwise hellish day, if for no other reason than to make a promise to yourself that this is temporary.
    Listen to the Masked Pony, Ido. This thing here is worth doing right, and it's hard to watch a good artist such as yourself not get the practice they need because of excuses.
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    Whelp, Ido, you brought this on yourself. Your hat has been confiscated, until further notice.



    You will get it back once you've proven your mettle by going for 2 weeks straight, with 14 pieces of art, minimum.

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    I wonder, if one does 14 pieces of art in one day, does that allow for a two week hiatus?
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    No. "update daily" is the base rule. "14 pieces of art" is the extension of that. He is free to make more per day if he wants but it wont get him his hat back faster. (But it might be reason for lenience on future slacking.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Mirrsen View Post
    I wonder, if one does 14 pieces of art in one day, does that allow for a two week hiatus?
    "No backlog" is one of the rules. This isn't a webcomic, this is self improvement. Those are bonus pictures, not excuses. The point of the challenge is to have a minimum you work to so drawing becomes a habit rather than work.

    The natural conclusion of the process is that eventually drawing becomes so natural and fun that you choose to update multiple times in one day, which is what's happened to some degree with me. There's infinite room to scale up, but you can't scale down below a 10 minute scribble.
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    *returns, is immediately beset upon by extremely deserved botherings/hattheft*

    Wwwwwhelp. H-... here I am? Almost exactly guilty as charged saved for one thing that I won't go into, because excuses are excuses and I don't want to go there (though if Shadow of the Sun decides he'd like to post my secret santa gift it would show what I've been doing all this time).

    Anywho, I'm exhausted from the holidays still, sadly enough. More sad for me is that it's no excuse so I am GETTING MY SORRY BUTT BACK IN FRONT OF THE DRAWMACHINE AND DRAWING ME A DRAWING.

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    Really this is the only thing my system can reliably produce after doing nothing but work on derpy drawings for two weeks offline in various extents. Just getting this one last girl out there to shake it out of me, and tomorrow will be something humanoid if I can manage it.

    To everyone: thanks a TON for griping about me not doing this. Seriously. I'd be depressed as heck if this all went by without incident. Side projects or not, this is one of the most important things I'm doing, and I can't just ignore it. Maybe I'll even earn my hat bat after this.

    (amusing sidenote: When Sean wondered aloud what would happen if I showed up with 14 drawings in a day, that day I actually did coincidentally churn out like ten or eleven pieces >_>;; )

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    Day 65 - Dr. Enforcicle
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    Just trading one pastime for another today!

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    Man that was boring let's get back to what's really worthwhile drawing!

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    So of course the day after I say I'm going to take a break from the ponies, ED comes out with another Artists Training session at a time when I'm actually able to follow it. This time's theme is "War Games", or something to that effect, with today the first day's challenge being to draw a pony in armor. This obviously meant that I had to draw Twilight wearing traditional elven armor from LotR.

    I'm actually pretty happy with this one, though it might be the fever and drugs talking (I'm sick). We'll see what I think in a few days once the cloud clears. I did get some good pointers about line thickness on the detail, and my inking of the sketch seems to have gone well. *nods*

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    Not a lot of time to babble at length tonight, but here we go all the same:

    Day 67 - Bring Harmony to the Force
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capt. Ido Nos View Post
    Not a lot of time to babble at length tonight, but here we go all the same:

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    - All the weight is on her right elbow-upper-arm thing. That'd make it snap like a twig. If you want to stand on one arm, it has to be straight.
    - The mane on top of her head is too straight, it's like a rectangle. Twi has a pretty long fringe.
    - Tail does not line up with itself where it crosses the leg.

    Otherwise, good concept and totally my original idea before I realised that a hundred other ponies would draw it
    To improve is to change
    To be perfect is to change often

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanqol View Post
    - All the weight is on her right elbow-upper-arm thing. That'd make it snap like a twig. If you want to stand on one arm, it has to be straight.
    - The mane on top of her head is too straight, it's like a rectangle. Twi has a pretty long fringe.
    - Tail does not line up with itself where it crosses the leg.

    Otherwise, good concept and totally my original idea before I realised that a hundred other ponies would draw it
    Thanqol you have managed to pick out exactly the three parts I was least happy with XD

    - I could NOT for the life of me figure that arm out. It just looked awkward no matter how I did it :S Straight down looked weird, especially with her big fat head, and curved any more was just obviously wrong...
    - <dark, shuddery voice dripping with malice>Hairrrrrrrr.....</dark, shuddery voice dripping with malice>
    - Yeah I didn't line that up as well as I thought I did >:|

    Glad you liked the rest though! Also glad I was able to think of *something* for "training day". I figured "pony with a sword" was going to be done more than once, you know?


    Day 68 - Elsie
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    Today is a really really weird feeling where I have the need to draw, but absolutely no inspiration on what to draw. So, a little asking around and I settled for just throwing together a laser cow and seeing what happened.

    SUPER sketchy, yes I know 6___6

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    Okay, gonna try and return to a specific form while we're recovering on the daily habit as well. Good news too, for those wonderful people following this thread who are super awesome I don't say this enough: no ponies today! The EQD's artist training ground has been held up for technical problems, so the 5 day barrage is delayed until next week sometime. In the meanwhile, I'm going to try the ol' human form while I can catch a break.

    Day 69 - Handsome
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    I hate drawing hands. Therefore, I should probably practice drawing more hands until I finally learn it. Slowly, ever so slowly getting there, I think. Crazy enough, Saeyan's line art exercise in addition to some incidental line weight reading I've run across have actually helped me out with today and the past few days. While I'm always and forever in the search for a general-use line weight that feels right, I do have some good guidelines for drawing my large outlines versus the details. While the content is not 100% satisfactory, I think the form is coming along. I'll take improvement where I can get it!

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    D&D ran like, three hours over, but as always, in the end it was worth it. I'm totally dead right now, but here's a quick sketch all the same.

    Day 70 - This is for Spike
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    Time: 15 minutes
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    It's curious how I try and get everything perfect, even when it's just a quick and dirty sketch. It's curious how personal an encounter against an imaginary dragon can become, too.

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    Day 71 - Caiman Days
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    A little mixing it up to fix it up tonight. I have a fondness for drawing reptiles, been drawing a lot of equines lately, felt like I should normalize this all a bit.

    Overall, some more practice on working quickly from a reference, as well as playing around with textures for interest. I'm really bad at filling whitespace with the stuff...
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