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    Does anyone else think it's a Chekov's Gun?

    It been dramatically removed from his head three times already (the big reveal to Elan, the reveal to Roy/Belkar, the proof that not-Thog is not Thog).

    And there is this bit of foreshadowing in the third panel here.

    Is it possible...
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    That Tarquin's helmet is a Helm of Teleportation, and that is ultimately how he +/- Malack will escape from the Order/Guild/Team Evil?

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    Of course it's possible, and it's a pretty neat item if you're really jonesing for a magic helmet. But really, knowing that the party wizard cannot cast teleport is pretty useful information regardless of your own capabilities, and there's really no connection between that and the fact that Tarquin wears a badass "evil overlord" helmet. So yes, it is possible, but there's also nothing to indicate that it is true. We have no indication that Tarquin's helmet is even magical (other than being affected by his armor's glamered ability, but you can generally switch out helmets however you want so it's not conclusive), much less being that specific magic helmet.
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    Tarquin can pull out pretty much any magic item, ever. It's already been established that he has an entire kingdom's resources at his command, and that he creates new magic items on a regular basis. If the situation requires a magic item, he'll have exactly what he needs. He's already got a Ring of Regeneration, a Ring of True Seeing, a magic axe which he obviously treasures, multi-enchanted armor of which we've only seen glamour activated, and who knows what else. Helm of Teleport? Why not?

    I don't think it's been alluded to at all, though. It's not a "Chekhov's gun" by any means.

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    Another idea that I brought up in the discussion thread of one of the previous comics: right now, the Order can't see the spikes on Tarquin's helm, but they're still there. (Assuming they weren't themselves a glamour effect.) That could end badly for anyone who tried to, say, exploit a Ring of Jumping in their attacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chess Tyrant View Post
    Another idea that I brought up in the discussion thread of one of the previous comics: right now, the Order can't see the spikes on Tarquin's helm, but they're still there. (Assuming they weren't themselves a glamour effect.) That could end badly for anyone who tried to, say, exploit a Ring of Jumping in their attacks.
    its probably some super form of glamer since his helm got seperated from his armour and didnt change back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chess Tyrant View Post
    Another idea that I brought up in the discussion thread of one of the previous comics: right now, the Order can't see the spikes on Tarquin's helm, but they're still there. (Assuming they weren't themselves a glamour effect.) That could end badly for anyone who tried to, say, exploit a Ring of Jumping in their attacks.
    Nope. Elan already landed on a spiked helmet.

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    I don't see how or why. It just seems like a helmet with no plot importance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Epic View Post
    I don't see how or why. It just seems like a helmet with no plot importance.
    yup i can agree with that
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    The dramatic reveal may indeed be something significant

    the helmet itself.....I doubt it.
    If I cared about this, I would probably do something about it.

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    I think the helmet is infact an evil intelligent item, that's been dominating the LG Paladin Tarquin for the last 30 years.

    Ok... I don't really think that. But there's about as much proof for my theory here than for yours :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morquard View Post
    I think the helmet is infact an evil intelligent item, that's been dominating the LG Paladin Tarquin for the last 30 years.
    You know, I think you're on to something here. Somebody has been dominating Tarquin so that he would leave his wife with his son, and then develop Nale as an adventurer.
    Then, the person who dominated Tarquin used Nale as a tool against the OotS! There can only be one person behind this...
    Xykon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chessdudeguy View Post
    You know, I think you're on to something here. Somebody has been dominating Tarquin so that he would leave his wife with his son, and then develop Nale as an adventurer.
    Then, the person who dominated Tarquin used Nale as a tool against the OotS! There can only be one person behind this...
    Xykon!
    OK... that sounds suspiciously like you pulled that out of Izya's coat pocket...

    But, seriously: sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar. And, a helmet just a helmet. Until it actually causes stuff to go *bamf* or makes swirly eyes appear, I'll just treat it as a fashion accessory with some protective qualities, and not a plot coupon of dubious importance.
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    I simply don't get the leap of logic from "he removes the helmet a lot for dramatic revelations (or failed attempts)" to "it must be a powerful magic item" and "he took notice of the fact V can't cast teleport" to "his helmet must have a teleport effect"... Are you a monk?

    Now, your prediction might be absolutely right, and in fact having an item that allows him to teleport would be useful, but there is nothing in the comics really suggesting he has any item of the sort in his person, or that his helmet is anything but a helmet.

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    Well, I do believe it's a powerful magical item, but not because it was removed a couple times dramatically, but for a very simple reason:

    Tarquin was toying with the OotS, who are by now level 15 or what, all by himself. That means he's either epic level already or close to it. Also we know that Tarquin has alot of magic items, so that the helm would simply be an ordinary helmet is just unrealistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morquard View Post
    I think the helmet is infact an evil intelligent item, that's been dominating the LG Paladin Tarquin for the last 30 years.
    Then how come he's been able to take it off, smart guy?

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    Then how come he's been able to take it off, smart guy?
    a) read the second sentence, the one you deleted :P

    b) Obviously he hasn't. That helmet is so powerful that it created the illusion of Tarquin taking it off.

    Wait? Illuisions. We know only one Illusionist! OMG, the helmet is Girard!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morquard View Post
    Wait? Illuisions. We know only one Illusionist! OMG, the helmet is Girard!
    And Girard 'died' shortly before Tarquin started his world-domination scheme!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morquard View Post
    powerful that it created the illusion of Tarquin taking it off.

    Wait? Illuisions. We know only one Illusionist! OMG, the helmet is Girard!
    And apparently Girard is Eugene.

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    Come on. We all know he's very clever. Disguising himself as three people at once using nonmagical means is just the sort of thing he'd do.
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    And apparently Girard is Eugene.
    Of course! It all makes sense now!

    But then how did Roy survive V's spell...unless he was already dead. Roy was never brought back to life, the version we see is an Ice Assassin of Roy being controlled by Girard/'Eugene'/Mr Scruffy himself!

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    Wow, what a hillarious thread! And it's getting better with every post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Water_Bear View Post
    Of course! It all makes sense now!

    But then how did Roy survive V's spell...unless he was already dead. Roy was never brought back to life, the version we see is an Ice Assassin of Roy being controlled by Girard/'Eugene'/Mr Scruffy himself!
    Well, obviously this is simply proof that Roy's mom was a bit less than faithful to "Eugene". He doesn't have red hair either, now does he.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morquard View Post
    He doesn't have red hair either, now does he.
    He might have. Checking it would be a little... unpleasant.
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    I think...that the longer The Giant goes without making a new comic, the farther out these theories get...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulysses WkAmil View Post
    I think...that the longer The Giant goes without making a new comic, the farther out these theories get...
    Aren't you READING these? This is where this forum shines. The first guy makes a random theory that he half wishes he could believe, then the rest of us come in and decimate that poor species called logic. AND IT IS GLORIOUS.

    Personally, I think Girard is Xykon. (Yes, time travel. Its plausible!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erelamar View Post
    Does anyone else think it's a Chekov's Gun?
    No, it's a helmet owned by Tarquin.

    I don't think it's a Chekhov's gun either.

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    Uh... you might want to rethink that link, Manga Maniac, old mate. I'm a troper, and I can't get it to work...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutant Sheep View Post
    Personally, I think Girard is Xykon. (Yes, time travel. Its plausible!)
    C'mon, we all know that Xykon is really from modern Earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperordaniel View Post
    C'mon, we all know that Xykon is really from modern Earth.
    *Gasp* the space cats part has come true already!

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    Sometimes a helmet is just a cigar.

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