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    Young Justice returns in one week! So I thought I'd put up a new thread for the show

    Anybody excited for this? I realize that episode 10 was leaked online months ago, but the fact that YJ is returning to the airwaves at all makes me excited. I'm really enjoying the show, having enjoyed everything Greg Weisman has worked on thus far, and I continue to be excited to see where the show is going.

    For the purposes of this thread, I'm going to ask that we restrict discussion out-of-spoiler-tags to aired episodes only. Any leaked material, like episode 10 is now, or preview material should be discussed in spoiler tags.

    Once Episode 10 airs in a week, we can start talking about that now, but I know some people have held off on watching it until it airs officially, a position I respect and one I think this thread should respect as well.
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    I like the show. I have no idea where it's going since Weisman has like 18 plotlines going on. Let's see what I can remember, I might forget some things since it's been like seven months since new episodes aired.

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    So there's a mole in the group, which they seem to be pointing at Artemis, but that seems to obvious. I think it's Superboy, and he has some post hypnotic suggestions or something he doesn't know about from the cloning process. Which I actually think would be a nice season finale, spending the whole season of Kon becoming friends with everyone but then someone from The Light shows up and activates his conditioning and he goes to town on the rest of the team. Then after Young Justice breaks him out of it somehow and Kon has a massive guilt trip Superman finally starts acting like Superman and takes him to the Kent farm to recover.

    The episode with Aqualad going to Atlantis, the giant thing frozen in the ice was most likely Starro the Conquerer, and since they sent some of the remains to Star Labs, I'm pretty sure that's gonna come back and bite them in the butt.

    I can't see the Helmet of Fate not being claimed by someone at some point. And Kent Nelson being voiced by Ed Asner? Awesome.

    Artemis has some loyalty issues, which, if you're a big enough comic nerd, is cause
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    she's Sportsmaster's daughter. And this show made Sportsmaster awesome, somehow.


    All of the blatant foreshadowing of Robin becoming leader makes me think Aqualad is going to leave or die.

    And the episode in Bialya ended with Boom Tubes. So Darkseid and Apokolips.

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    And apparently there is going to be an episode written by Peter David with Secret in it. And that's awesome for anyone like me who read the Young Justice comics.
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    Really looking forward to it. I think I might see about rewatching the episodes that have already aired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine View Post
    Really looking forward to it. I think I might see about rewatching the episodes that have already aired.
    You know, I should probably do that too. I've only seen each of them once, and most of that was so many months ago now...

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    As a side note, has anyone read those YJ spin-off comics? Not the DCU comics that the show is very loosely based off of, but the comics that are in-continuity with the show.

    They any good?
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    I am maybe a terrible person in that I have been steadily hooking anyone I can on Young Justice. First victims, my roommates. Next: the world? I can only hope.

    Maybe if there's enough new interest they won't mess with the airing schedule again.

    Not like I have the right to complain, I mean, I didn't even meet the show until Augustish. I can't even imagine what it's like for those of you who've been waiting since Marchish. o__o

    (I know nothing about the comics, regrettably, but am definitely if dubiously interested. I'd similarly be curious to hear word on them.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpenguin View Post
    As a side note, has anyone read those YJ spin-off comics? Not the DCU comics that the show is very loosely based off of, but the comics that are in-continuity with the show.

    They any good?
    I did, and from what I recall they weren't that bad

    And I got from those comics that on Earth 16 the flashs didn't get their powers by insanely unlikely lightning hits. (Well Jay never got his powers this stupidly)

    Instead both Barry and Wally had reproduced Jays original experiment and got their powers that way.
    (I hope Jay learned his lesson and now locked the formula somewhere where nosy kids can't find it)
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    I never had a problem with how Barry got his powers, sometimes one in a million things happen. The problem was the Wally got them the exact same way. The exact same lab, next to the exact same rack of chemicals.
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    Well, if the results of the event were duplicatable, then him being in the exact same lab with the exact same rack of chemicals would increase the the chance of a similar event with similar results happening.

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    Which is a weak explanation.
    That also was retroactively invented 30 years later or so.

    And they only had to come up with a new way as in the early days Jay was supposed to be from a different earth.

    Now if you put them into the same continuity it makes sense that they copied the original experiment.

    Especially considering that they needed an explanation for Wally, and the double strike of lightning was a bit much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makari View Post
    Maybe if there's enough new interest they won't mess with the airing schedule again.
    From my understanding, the reason for the lengthy hiatus was because the episodes weren't completed yet. Even if the show was topping American Idol in popularity, they can't air what they don't have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Seth View Post
    From my understanding, the reason for the lengthy hiatus was because the episodes weren't completed yet. Even if the show was topping American Idol in popularity, they can't air what they don't have.
    This seems a bit untrue, given the updates Greg Weisman has been giving about the show's production.

    As soon as May 12th, episodes 10 and 11 were ready to be aired (with episodes 12 and 13 in post-production). As soon as July 15, 10-15. As soon as the first of August? 10-18.

    Weisman himself has said that the delays are not because of production slowness on his end, but because of decisions of the network.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Seth View Post
    From my understanding, the reason for the lengthy hiatus was because the episodes weren't completed yet. Even if the show was topping American Idol in popularity, they can't air what they don't have.
    On top of what kpenguin said, episode 10 was leaked to the internet months ago, so not only has that one been ready, it somehow got out long before the show's resumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zevox View Post
    On top of what kpenguin said, episode 10 was leaked to the internet months ago, so not only has that one been ready, it somehow got out long before the show's resumption.

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    Well, it officially aired tonight...
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    And I thought Mercy as a robot was a nice touch. And the Luthor/Ra's team-up.
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    And I thought Mercy as a robot was a nice touch. And the Luthor/Ra's team-up.
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    I liked the episode. Especially the school time part.

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    And I thought Mercy as a robot was a nice touch. And the Luthor/Ra's team-up.
    Was she actually a robot? I thought it was just her arm that was robotic.
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    This seems a bit untrue, given the updates Greg Weisman has been giving about the show's production.

    As soon as May 12th, episodes 10 and 11 were ready to be aired (with episodes 12 and 13 in post-production). As soon as July 15, 10-15. As soon as the first of August? 10-18.

    Weisman himself has said that the delays are not because of production slowness on his end, but because of decisions of the network.
    Cartoon Network likely wanted to have a good number of episodes ready before they aired them so they'd be able to air them on their own terms rather than airing one or two and then being forced to wait for the next one. And I can't blame them at all for that. So yeah, I do blame production slowness. Though, admittedly, it may be that Cartoon Network decided to start airing too early, rather than waiting for when they had a better quantity.
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    Was she actually a robot? I thought it was just her arm that was robotic.
    I dunno. Luthor doesn't strike me as a man who goes by half-measures, though.

    Either way, it's good to have a sort of subtle-evil-genius Luthor. Much as I like classically hammy villains, it's a guy like this that I see being the kind that holds onto corporate holdings despite being one of Big Blue's nemeses.
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    Megan as a cheerleader is scaring me. Why is Superboy so bad at the logic anyway? Did he really think that kid was Power Ring?(Or whatever the kid is who has Green Lantern-like powers.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutant Sheep View Post
    Megan as a cheerleader is scaring me. Why is Superboy so bad at the logic anyway? Did he really think that kid was Power Ring?(Or whatever the kid is who has Green Lantern-like powers.)
    He is only about 20 weeks old, and all the information downloaded into his head was specifically for his use as a weapon for the light against Superman. Which means any information on how interact socially comes from other costume wearing or insignia wearing people, all the information he has learned it he has learned in the last 4 weeks, and he is a teenager (not the most logical demographic).

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    Perhaps, perhaps not. Remember, he basically born and rapidly aged inside a test tube, so his conceptions of how society works are... a bit simplistic, to put it lightly.
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    There was so many good things about this episode.

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    Roy being awesome. Sportsmaster being awesome. Luthor and Mercy being awesome. Ra's just being there is awesome.

    Way too many kids at that high school appear to be superheros. And Snapper Carr is there.

    Megan tried way to hard to hide the fact that she's actually a white Martian. "I'm totally a green Martian." If she had been talking to someone not Connor, they might actually pick up on it.

    My favorite part was probably when Roy had tracked Cheshire and Sportsmaster back to there meeting place unnoticed and then Ra's comes out and spots him almost instantly. That's why he's the head of the League of Assassins.
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    I like the Ra's reveal. I was like, "Wait, is that? I think that's Ra's al Ghul..."

    Then basically as soon as Red Arrow/Speedy/However-you-want-to-call-him spots him, I had a short little "Yay, I was right"/"Crap, I was right" moment right before Ra's looks directly at him. You don't just sneak up on a Batman villain, pal.
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    I like the Ra's reveal. I was like, "Wait, is that? I think that's Ra's al Ghul..."

    Then basically as soon as Red Arrow/Speedy/However-you-want-to-call-him spots him, I had a short little "Yay, I was right"/"Crap, I was right" moment right before Ra's looks directly at him. You don't just sneak up on a Batman villain, pal.
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    Even Bats himself doesn't get the drop on Ra's often
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    Ra's and Bats first meeting was Batman coming home and finding Ra's sitting in the Batcave like he owned the place.
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    So, exactly how many villains associated with "The Light" are we on now anyway? I count:

    Cadmus
    Those guys behind the Red Tornado-esque bot.
    Kobra
    Sportsmaster
    The League of Shadows, lead by Ra's al Ghul
    Cheshire
    Black Manta
    That psychic guy from the desert episode (don't recall him ever being named).
    Darkseid, or someone else from Apokalypse (Boom Tubes from the end of the desert episode.)
    Lex Luthor

    Which is quite a list. In fact, I think the only villains we've seen so far that haven't been indicated to be involved with "The Light" were the scientist who created the superhero-copying bot and that "Lord of Chaos" kid and his lackey from Doctor Fate episode. And I wouldn't be surprised if the former was working for them.

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    That psychic guy from the desert episode (don't recall him ever being named).
    Psimon. I seem to recall him saying "Psimon says" in the episode, but unless you're watching with captions on it's pretty impossible to know there was a p there.

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    "Lord of Chaos" kid and his lackey from Doctor Fate episode.
    Klarion, bum bum BUM, the Witch Boy.

    Icicle, Mr. Freeze and Captain Cold are probably in the Light as well, seeing how Batman noticed it was odd that three ice themed villains were attacking simultaneously.

    Vandal Savage could be in the Light. Well, unless Ra's already filled their quota on immortal sociopaths.
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    Icicle, Mr. Freeze and Captain Cold are probably in the Light as well, seeing how Batman noticed it was odd that three ice themed villains were attacking simultaneously.
    Ah, so the one Green Arrow and Speedy handled was named Icicle. I'd never seen him before, and they didn't use his name.

    Good point though, I'd forgotten about those three. Being as they haven't been mentioned since the first three minutes of the first episode, an easy thing to do.

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    Vandal Savage could be in the Light. Well, unless Ra's already filled their quota on immortal sociopaths.
    Um, based on what, exactly? He hasn't shown up in the show yet.

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    Joke. Bad one I guess.

    But now that I think about it, I can't remember any instances of Ra's and Savage interacting in comics. Huh.
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