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    I thought it was a nice touch obliquely confirming the existience of Krypto in the Earth-16 universe.

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    I hated the Apes reference. If you're going to censor out the damn, don't do it. KF, I love ya, but you're killing me.
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    I have no idea who that is, I thought it was a Tony the Tiger reference.

    The Planet of the Apes line was also amusing.
    In the comics Tawky is a well mannered tiger that walks upright and dresses in a suit (sometimes a tuxedo) and he's well mannered and (wikipedia says) he can turn into a smilodon--

    --and that's why DC needs to really take advantage of the Captain Marvel franchise.

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    Well, i must say i have been a fan of Tawky for a while, mostly due to his awesome quote (from Trials of Shazam i belive)

    "Well, you do know what those who underestimate Tigers allways say, right?"
    "what?"
    "They scream "Oh God, help me, im being mauled to death by a tiger""

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    So, watching the episode live this week. A question:
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    So, Zatarra is just a male version of Zatanna I'm guessing? Is he in the normal DC lineup, or did they decide to go rule 63 with Zatanna in the show's universe for some reason?

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    Watchin' the new episode. Haven't seen a full new episode in like 3 weeks. Been busy.

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    So, Zatarra is just a male version of Zatanna I'm guessing? Is he in the normal DC lineup, or did they decide to go rule 63 with Zatanna in the show's universe for some reason?

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    Anyone think the version of the Joker is kind of weak? I can't quite say why, but I think the depiction of him in the show is one of the worse.

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    I'm not live watching, but to answer your question:
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    He is an existing character, and is in fact Zatanna's father.
    Huh, okay then.

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    Lots of fun this one. I think it's the first time the group has had a stand-up fight with some real supervillains, rather than assassins like Cheshire or powerless-but-skilled guys like Sportsmaster. Good action, and I like how the "Injustice League" was used as a ploy by the Light to make the heroes think they'd caught the conspiracy just as they were catching on to its existence.

    Didn't see the Doctor Fate twist coming, I must say. I guess Aqualad makes the most sense for a member of the team to use the helmet, since he is trained in sorcery. He's not a suitable candidate for a permanent Doctor Fate though, and is fortunate that Fate let him go.

    Also nice to know that Aqualad and Robin have caught on to Superboy and Miss Martian being a couple, while Kid Flash and Artemis haven't.

    Oh, and Robin never made up any meaningless words in this one! Yay! I'm a happy camper there.


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    Anyone think the version of the Joker is kind of weak? I can't quite say why, but I think the depiction of him in the show is one of the worse.
    *shrugs* I've never been a fan of the Joker to begin with, so I largely can't say. I did at least like one of his jokes though, the quasi-fourth-wall-break "that last one may not be a word."

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    This show is spectacular. Best superhero animation we've had since JLU at its height (Cadmus arc) in my opinion.
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    This show is spectacular. Best superhero animation we've had since JLU at its height (Cadmus arc) in my opinion.
    I dunno... Brave and the Bold delivers so much concentrated Silver Age I don't know how I survived the Space Ghost opener.

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    Dangit this is the ONE time I miss an episode live and its the one with Joker in it. Hurry up and get online episode! I wanna see Joker!!! /agh

    Space Ghost was hilarious. Aquaman cant count goons very well, can he. 100 isn't an ARMY, its a small gang.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mando Knight View Post
    I dunno... Brave and the Bold delivers so much concentrated Silver Age I don't know how I survived the Space Ghost opener.
    I hate The Brave and the Bold. It just feels like a step backwards in my opinion.

    Big fan of YJ however, I also felt the joker was weak. Can't we make it a law that only Mark Hamil can play the joker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamin View Post
    I hate The Brave and the Bold. It just feels like a step backwards in my opinion.
    A step backwards from what? (Other than from whatever age of comic books it is (apparently Modern?) back to a delightful distillation of and homage to the Silver Age, up to and including the infamous issue covers.)

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    I love Brave and the Bold. OUTRAGEOUS Aquaman, and the "Joker's Son" episode.... damn scary. Damn damn scary. Anyone have a link to Young Justice online? I can never find reruns of any of the episodes on Cartoon Network.
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    Anyone think the version of the Joker is kind of weak? I can't quite say why, but I think the depiction of him in the show is one of the worse.
    I think the problem is that he's under played. He has a certain lack of presence. He didn't really have any great dialogue or jokes and he was lacking a real killer laugh... there have been many jokers, but no matter how well they do, Hammil's joker laugh is what will always keep him on top. You want a good joker, you got to nail the laugh

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    I hate The Brave and the Bold. It just feels like a step backwards in my opinion.
    Y'know I used to not care for brave and the bold... but then I found myself having trouble finding fault with a series that would gives us the DC heroes singing musical numbers, Abraham lincoln fighting a steam punk powered john wilk's booth, and a bird's of prey song written by Gail simone that never aired in the US because of all the innuendos... the show KNOWS how corny it is and knows just how to make the most of it to give people a good time; its just plain fun

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    I love Brave and the Bold. OUTRAGEOUS Aquaman, and the "Joker's Son" episode.... damn scary. Damn damn scary. Anyone have a link to Young Justice online? I can never find reruns of any of the episodes on Cartoon Network.
    You can just try google... really, its not all that hard to find episodes for newer shows
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    I know. Just takes a few hours for it to get up, and I want it 2 hours ago!
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    It'll probably be on Youtube tomorrow.

    And if it's not Hamill, it's not The Joker.

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    K, watched it. Was up at 8:00.
    I really liked Dimaggio's Joker, though Hamill had an epic voice, I never liked his Joker's FACE. Was kinda... I dont know, it changed alot and wasnt really that scary to me. The Batman Beyond Joker is my favorite though, Hamill sends shivers down my spine everytime I watch it.

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    who was the guy talking at the end? Why is the stupid Witchboy a ringleader of the Light? And stupid French Brain too. I hope Lex kills those guys off soon, I don't really see them as leading villain awesome.
    Good thing that the team noticed that Wally keeping Dr. Fate for no real reason was a BAD idea, or somebody would have died. What even gave KF the apparently completely true belief that Nabu would never let them go ever, could have been explained though. Nabu is known as a good guy for a reason.
    Oh, yeah. ULTRA-HUMANITE SAY SOMETHING. YOU ARE AWESOME VILLAIN DO SOMETHING COOL.

    On the Joker in show: Seems more like a guy who randomly quotes/paraphrases famous movies, though his Jokergas lines and apparent competency are quite awesome. Quite awesome and cool. Whose the guy whose talking talking at the end again, though?
    Fate is a bit of a drama queen.FATE HAS INTERVENED!
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    What even gave KF the apparently completely true belief that Nabu would never let them go ever, could have been explained though. Nabu is known as a good guy for a reason.
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    That would be his personal experience with it, from the end of the Doctor Fate episode, when Nabu nearly refused to give him back control of his own body. Nabu was convinced that Doctor Fate was needed badly, and he did not want to return to being idle, at all. It was only by Kent pointing out Kid Flash's lack of magical talent and by promising to find a permanent new owner for the helmet that they convinced him to give Kid Flash back his body.

    Given that, there was every reason to believe that he wouldn't surrender control of Aqualad, especially since Aqualad does possess an affinity for magic, negating one of the strongest arguments they had against him keeping control of Kid Flash.

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    Why is the stupid Witchboy a ringleader of the Light?
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    Lord of Chaos. Kind of a big deal.

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    I assume it was Vandal Savage.

    I loved all the hero cameos during the big fight. Plastic Man, Captain Atom, Guy friggin Gardner, Blue Devil. I can't place the chick with the purple glow or the guy who caught the helicopter though.

    Also, pretty sweet Plan B.
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    Oh yes, I loved Guy's cameo during the Justice League vs giant plants fight. Flying around nice and leisurely, like floating on his back in a pool, while rescuing people - yeah, that's Guy all right. Plus it brings the Green Lantern count in the Justice League of this universe to 3, with Hal and John having been seen before. I wonder if Kyle will have a cameo sometime later to complete the set?

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    Hopefully Klye and Alan Scott.

    Oh man, if they had more people from the Justice Society besides Jay Garrick's cameo, that would be sweet.
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    Hopefully Klye and Alan Scott.

    Oh man, if they had more people from the Justice Society besides Jay Garrick's cameo, that would be sweet.
    Weren't there quite a few in the first episode. Or maybe it was the second.
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    So who exactly are the Light? I recognize the Brain, Luthor and the little wizard kid who we saw before, but not anyone else. Luthor is the only one that doesn't look goofy though.
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    I assume it was Vandal Savage.

    I loved all the hero cameos during the big fight. Plastic Man, Captain Atom, Guy friggin Gardner, Blue Devil. I can't place the chick with the purple glow or the guy who caught the helicopter though.

    Also, pretty sweet Plan B.
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    The chick with the glow was Rocket, and the dude was Icon.


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    So who exactly are the Light? I recognize the Brain, Luthor and the little wizard kid who we saw before, but not anyone else. Luthor is the only one that doesn't look goofy though.
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    According to this, and some of my recognition, The Light (possibly also now calling themselves "The Secret Society") has a roster of the following:
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    Which makes me wonder how they're going to keep focus on the kids. I mean, I think Young Justice is quite capable, but there's a point where, to me, it feels like it might start devaluing the older heroes if 6-7 teens win every major battle. Now, that said, I think this last episode did a pretty good job balancing it. The team held their own, but they needed backup from the League to totally stop the Injustice League.

    Considering this Justice League has 3 Superman-level heroes (Superman himself, Captain Marvel, Icon), at least 3 Green Lanterns, and Martian Manhunter (who is likely at least a powerful shapeshifter and telepath, possibly also having powers nearly equaling Superman), let alone anyone else, Earth-16 is a world of heavy hitters. I hope Young Justice worries more about covert ops (they've been good on that so far, but I'm a bit cautious about where they're going with this Light plot).

    That said, I also hope YJ gets power boosts. Adding one or two members would help, and poor Superboy getting some gentle boosts wouldn't hurt. It is hard to gauge how powerful the setting as a whole is, though.
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    It is hard to gauge how powerful the setting as a whole is, though.
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    It's DC, and it looks like all the stops have been pulled out with this Justice League, so I'd say the power level is sufficiently ridiculously high. They have teleportation systems, Batman has a Nighthawk-inspired Batplane, Robin carries enough explosives to level a supersized tree...

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    I think the problem is that he's under played. He has a certain lack of presence. He didn't really have any great dialogue or jokes and he was lacking a real killer laugh... there have been many jokers, but no matter how well they do, Hammil's joker laugh is what will always keep him on top. You want a good joker, you got to nail the laugh
    Yeah, I was getting that vibe too. The Joker from Brave and the Bold seems more terrifying and he's played for laughs mostly. I think he the writers are trying to hard to make him the Heath Ledger version (they even gave him a knife). He just doesn't have the right comedic-psychotic edge to him.

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    There's a reason Hamil is the best Joker. mARK HAMil.
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