Young Justice (Spoilers)

[Dr.Epic]

There's a reason Hamil is the best Joker. mARK HAMil.

Ledger was just straight up insane and creepy. That magic trick he did still gives me nightmares. I mean, where did it go?

Also, who/what was that big, white wolf that accompanied the heroes?

[Maxios]

My thoughts on the episode:

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I thought it was good. I missed the last episode, but I know what happened thanks to this thread. Because of this, the first time I saw Zattara; I thought he was Alfred .
I think the Joker looks pretty awesome, but I didn't like his character all that much. His voice souned a little too gravelly to me; and I didn't like his laugh all that much either.
I did however, like everything else in the episode.

^: It was Krypto.

[Dr.Epic]

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Because of this, the first time I saw Zattara; I thought he was Alfred .

Hey, yeah. Me too.

^: It was Krypto.

I thought he was a dog?

[The Bushranger]

(Since it's been a week, no spoiler boxes for last week's episode, I presume.)

The wolf is the one that 'followed Superboy home' after they defeated the Brain and Monsieur Mallah. He is not Krypto. (Kid Flash suggested naming him that; it was (a) roundly panned by the rest of the team, and (b) Miss Martian commented "besides, isn't that already taken?" indicating Krypto already exists in the Earth-16 continuity.)

As for who the wolf is (as opposed to who he isn't), I have no idea.

[Dr.Epic]

As for who the wolf is (as opposed to who he isn't), I have no idea.

Really? He hasn't been in any earlier episodes? I've only caught a few so I assumed it was something I missed.

[Hands_Of_Blue]

He's probably just the Earth-16 take on Rex, the Wonder Dog.

Edit: And since those two heroes I couldn't recognize earlier are Milestone characters, does that mean Static might show up at some point?

[The Bushranger]

Really? He hasn't been in any earlier episodes? I've only caught a few so I assumed it was something I missed.

Nope, he just got added to the show in the Captain Marvel episode.

He's probably just the Earth-16 take on Rex, the Wonder Dog.

Edit: And since those two heroes I couldn't recognize earlier are Milestone characters, does that mean Static might show up at some point?

Heh - Rex does look likely there...

And Static would be a logical addition to the team, wouldn't he?

[Mando Knight]

And Static would be a logical addition to the team, wouldn't he?

That would actually be pretty neat. Though he kinda would be muscling in on the existing heroes with his Do-Anything Lightning powers.

[Dr.Epic]

Nope, he just got added to the show in the Captain Marvel episode.

Yeah, that bugged me a little too in the episode. Captain Marvel didn't really do anything except eat some candy. Like I know the shows not about the adults superheroes, but he just sort stood around in that one scene and didn't even say anything. He just ate candy. I guess he helped battle the plants, but he didn't even say a thing in the scene where Batman was filling the characters in. It felt sort of odd.

[slayerx]

Yeah, that bugged me a little too in the episode. Captain Marvel didn't really do anything except eat some candy. Like I know the shows not about the adults superheroes, but he just sort stood around in that one scene and didn't even say anything. He just ate candy. I guess he helped battle the plants, but he didn't even say a thing in the scene where Batman was filling the characters in. It felt sort of odd.

I think the point was to show he's still hanging around the team even when he's not their "den mother". Like he said in the previous episode he finds the young justice team to be way more fun then hanging around the league. He's not a member of the team, but don't be surprised if you see him hanging around them.

[Dr.Epic]

I think the point was to show he's still hanging around the team even when he's not their "den mother". Like he said in the previous episode he finds the young justice team to be way more fun then hanging around the league. He's not a member of the team, but don't be surprised if you see him hanging around them.

Shouldn't he be part of Young Justice? I mean, Billy Batson is a kid.

[Mutant Sheep]

Shouldn't he be part of Young Justice? I mean, Billy Batson is a kid.

Not a teenager. So too young.

[Starbuck_II]

Yeah, that bugged me a little too in the episode. Captain Marvel didn't really do anything except eat some candy. Like I know the shows not about the adults superheroes, but he just sort stood around in that one scene and didn't even say anything. He just ate candy. I guess he helped battle the plants, but he didn't even say a thing in the scene where Batman was filling the characters in. It felt sort of odd.

Got for that matter, I missed Black Atom at end of episode. Did he escape or was he captured too?

[ThePhantasm]

Yeah, Joker's voice actor sucked. All the lines were delivered too humorlessly. He was trying too hard to be sinister, without realizing it is the Joker's twisted humor that makes him frightening. Plus, he didn't really have much of a laugh.

[kpenguin]

I am pleased that all of my Light Member speculations came true except for

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L-7, who I thought was going to be a white martian but turned out to be Klarion. I can't believe I missed that. The silhouette matches, even the long neck. Ah, well, 6/7 isn't bad at all.

[Prime32]

Yeah, Joker's voice actor sucked. All the lines were delivered too humorlessly. He was trying too hard to be sinister, without realizing it is the Joker's twisted humor that makes him frightening. Plus, he didn't really have much of a laugh.

At least there was a mention of multiple personalities, so he might act differently if he shows up again.

[Mutant Sheep]

I didn't hate the Joker, I just hate his lines. "Juggling my multipalh personalitiehs". No, you have ONE personality. And that one is the insane one. (Was he quoting random movies though? I got the vibe of a guy who makes random movie references to unknown movies from him.)

[Prime32]

I didn't hate the Joker, I just hate his lines. "Juggling my multipalh personalitiehs". No, you have ONE personality. And that one is the insane one. (Was he quoting random movies though? I got the vibe of a guy who makes random movie references to unknown movies from him.)

Eh, I believe it's canon that the Joker has multiple personalities, just not at the same time. It's why his behaviour varies so much over the years. (certainly not inconsistent writing )

[Mando Knight]

Yeah, Joker's voice actor sucked. All the lines were delivered too humorlessly. He was trying too hard to be sinister, without realizing it is the Joker's twisted humor that makes him frightening. Plus, he didn't really have much of a laugh.

Pretty much my sentiment. He should go to Joker-voice rehab and do more episodes to make up for this one. Why more? There was something that the casting director heard/saw that got the guy the role, he probably just needs to get into the Joker groove.

[Dr.Epic]

Not a teenager. So too young.

Isn't he a teenager in some versions?

Got for that matter, I missed Black Atom at end of episode. Did he escape or was he captured too?

Pretty sure they were all captured.

Yeah, Joker's voice actor sucked. All the lines were delivered too humorlessly. He was trying too hard to be sinister, without realizing it is the Joker's twisted humor that makes him frightening. Plus, he didn't really have much of a laugh.

Yeah, you got to have someone with the right laugh. That, and they were trying to make him too real. Like, at first I thought it was cool he had a knife, because that's what made the Heath Ledger Joker so creepy. But then I realized something: Nolan's Batman films all take place in a reality like our own. It's super realistic with no superpowers. They're aren't any ray guys or aliens or people that can hurl cars or fly so it makes sense he would carry a knife to torture people. In this reality, well, just pull a knife on Superman or any other member of the Justice League and tell me how it turns out for you. I mean, this isn't our reality. He should be carrying like a raygun or hand-buzzer that shoots out electricity.

[Zevox]

I didn't hate the Joker, I just hate his lines. "Juggling my multipalh personalitiehs". No, you have ONE personality. And that one is the insane one.

Or that could mean that this version of the Joker actually does have multiple personalities. This is an alternate universe from the normal DCU or the previous DCAU, after all. And he did come off quite differently when confronting Robin than during the rest of his appearances in the episode.

Zevox

[slayerx]

I didn't hate the Joker, I just hate his lines. "Juggling my multipalh personalitiehs". No, you have ONE personality. And that one is the insane one. (Was he quoting random movies though? I got the vibe of a guy who makes random movie references to unknown movies from him.)

on another forum, someone pointed out that in the comics it is believe joker does have multiple personalities; its just no obvious like it is with villians like the ventriloquist. Multiple personalities is the reason his crimes vary so much; one day his robbing a bank, another day he's playing a violent prank, and other days he;'s trying to kill everyone in the city... Though i'm not sure I really buy it...

[Dr.Epic]

I didn't hate the Joker, I just hate his lines. "Juggling my multipalh personalitiehs". No, you have ONE personality. And that one is the insane one.

That, or he was making an incredibly lame pun that didn't work.

(Was he quoting random movies though? I got the vibe of a guy who makes random movie references to unknown movies from him.)

No. There's already a supervillain that quotes films.

[Ravens_cry]

I watched about the first half of the first episode and my thought was "Wow, what a bunch of gits." I can understand their frustration at not being trusted as full members of the Justice League, but they are by no means showing they are in fact ready for said trust. At least that is my opinion, I didn't watch any more than that.

[Mutant Sheep]

I watched about the first half of the first episode and my thought was "Wow, what a bunch of gits." I can understand their frustration at not being trusted as full members of the Justice League, but they are by no means showing they are in fact ready for said trust. At least that is my opinion, I didn't watch any more than that.

Yeah, those teenaged people. They should be WAY more logical, huh. Its a superhero team show, almost all the drama is from supers misunderstanding each other and feeling sad that the other ones can

shoot lasers out of their ears.

Try more episodes. Please?

[Mando Knight]

I watched about the first half of the first episode and my thought was "Wow, what a bunch of gits." I can understand their frustration at not being trusted as full members of the Justice League, but they are by no means showing they are in fact ready for said trust. At least that is my opinion, I didn't watch any more than that.

1.) They're teenagers. They're contrary by definition.
2.) They get better. Trust me.

[Ravens_cry]

When? Because frankly, I am not sure I want to wait long enough to see it happen. Justice League and Justice League Unlimited characters had their disagreements, but they still felt like heroes.

[Hands_Of_Blue]

Pretty much my sentiment. He should go to Joker-voice rehab and do more episodes to make up for this one. Why more? There was something that the casting director heard/saw that got the guy the role, he probably just needs to get into the Joker groove.

The Joker's voice actor was Brent Spiner, aka Mr. Data from Star Trek: The Next Generation. And Greg Weisman had previously used about 90% of the Next Gen cast in Gargoyles, so I assume he just asked Brent if he wanted a job.

[Elrik]

There's a reason Hamil is the best Joker. mARK HAMil.

HOLY CHRIST I NEVER NOTICED THAT!

I feel stupid .

Agree though, I'm not even saying it in a "he was the joker I grew up with" way. He brings this feeling of a mentally disturbed and bitter comedian, exactly what I like in the joker.

Heath Ledger was great though, only thing I honestly liked out of Dark Knight, after seeing it a few more times.

Regarding last nights episode, I didn't watch it.

Based on the summaries I've read though:

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So, Vandal Savage is the leader? Or, is he just in an equal partnership with the other six? I noticed Klarion was one of the light members, which took me by suprise (I haven't been keeping track of the show to be honest).

Sometime I think Darkseid or Brainiac will just pop up and be the last guy, it seems like one of these two are always the last guy.

[Mando Knight]

The Joker's voice actor was Brent Spiner, aka Mr. Data from Star Trek: The Next Generation.

Oh, it was Spiner? Yeah, give him time. It may take him a bit to get to the point where he's a good Joker, but he's got the potential.