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    Quote Originally Posted by Orzel View Post
    Well my guess in the first thread was backwards. He spoke in his accent and failed the spell instead of speaking clearly and getting a boost.
    But he spoke the spell clearly

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    Could someone explain Cleric's Feather Fall?
    Feather fall lower the distance fell thus lowering fall damage.
    A cleric cant cast Feather Fall normally. Instead they just take the falling damage and healling the damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonCat View Post
    Could someone explain Cleric's Feather Fall?
    Yeah. Clerics cannot cast feather fall. So Heal is their feather fall since it heals almost all damage.

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    Elan's missing battle damage from Nale's sword in panel 3.
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    Oh, I see. thank you all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B.I.T.T. View Post
    ...or he spoke clearly and Thor 'n them got so used to his heavy accent that that assumed he was pronouncing something they'd never heard of.
    I like this better than what I assumed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gift Jeraff View Post
    Elan's missing battle damage from Nale's sword in panel 3.
    No. Thats the Dashing Swordsman power that, when in times of "The Cavalry has Arrived", all damage is considered nonexistant for .5 rounds for every level of Dashing Swordsman taken. This is a joke.
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    Well my guess in the first thread was backwards. He spoke in his accent and failed the spell instead of speaking clearly and getting a boost.

    New flaw. Heavy Aceent: 5% chance of divine casting failure

    Just like a cleric. Using flaws to make a strong class even stronger. Tsk Tsk Tsk.
    Excepting traditionally you don't research Cleric spells. You get them from the deity; so I figure you'd have talk to some angel management to get them to recognize the spell at the very least.

    Unless Mass Death Ward is a clerical spell largely forgotten and Durkon is rediscovering through research.

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    Huh, I would think that restoring Haley would take priority, maybe he doesn't have anything memorized for that.
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    I like how Durkon swears by "Thor's aching bunions" in the second panel and at the end Thor mentions how he needs to "go soak [his] feet". Clearly Durkon knows a lot about his chosen deity.
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    Just noticed a joke I missed the first time I read it. In panel to Durkon said "Thor's aching bunions!" and in the last panel Thor needs to go soak his feet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreadArchon View Post
    Huh, I would think that restoring Haley would take priority, maybe he doesn't have anything memorized for that.
    Vaarsuvius said he had Break Enchantment. I'm sure he'll get to it.

    With this kind of customer service, I'm surprised anyone worships Thor.

    Maybe Mass Death Ward isn't viable. That's an unfortunate way to find out.
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    What is Mass Death Ward's ability? I am new to D&D Spell (except Magic Missle).
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    Ok, "Cleric's Feather Fall" had me literally laughing out loud. That was just great.
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    I don't know why he had to research the spell in the first place. It already exists . It's not in the Player's Handbook, but it's in the Spell Compendium and Tsukiko already used Orb spells, which are also non-core.

    Anyway, it's great to have ThorPrayer back I wonder if Durkon can sue Him?
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    What is Mass Death Ward's ability? I am new to D&D Spell (except Magic Missle).
    If anything like Death Ward, it protects against death effects and energy/level draining.

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    I don't know why he had to research the spell in the first place. It already exists . It's not in the Player's Handbook, but it's in the Spell Compendium and Tsukiko already used Orb spells, which are also non-core.
    My thoughts precisely.

    Although for divine spell research, in case it doesn't exist, shouldn't he work with Thor since Thor is who grants the spells?

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    What is Mass Death Ward's ability? I am new to D&D Spell (except Magic Missle).
    DEATH WARD, MASS
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    Sensing the spark of life in your allies through your magic, you bolster that spark and protect it from harm.

    This spell functions like death ward (PH 217), except as noted above.
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    Duration: 1 min./level
    Saving Throw: Will negates (harmless)
    Spell Resistance: Yes (harmless)

    The subject is immune to all death spells, magical death effects, energy drain, and any negative energy effects (such as from inflict spells or chill touch).

    This spell doesn’t remove negative levels that the subject has already gained, nor does it affect the saving throw necessary 24 hours after gaining a negative level.

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    I don't know why he had to research the spell in the first place. It already exists . It's not in the Player's Handbook, but it's in the Spell Compendium and Tsukiko already used Orb spells, which are also non-core.
    She almost certainly had to research them specifically, though. For simplicity, I usually assume that all spells in the SRD are "common knowledge" and everything else is "obscure/non-existent" unless someone has researched it. That's because the bulk of the reading audience won't know about each and every spell in 3.5, but most of them have the Player's Handbook.

    Plus, I didn't know Mass Death Ward was an actual spell until right this moment. I was merely extrapolating, I never checked any of the books for it. But it doesn't really affect the story either way, except for that I was pegging it at 7th level instead of 8th.
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    Well, would you look at that. Another conveniently placed deus ex machina to balance the odds in favour of the bad guys.
    How new and exciting.

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    'Cleric's feather fall' had me laughing louder then any comic has managed in a good long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantine View Post
    Well, would you look at that. Another conveniently placed deus ex machina to balance the odds in favour of the bad guys.
    How new and exciting.
    It's a Diabolous Ex Machina if it helps the bad guys. Deus Ex Machina are always good or neutral aligned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilphon View Post
    Deus Ex Machina are always good or neutral aligned.
    Nah, they aren't.

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    About researching, I typically go by the idea that divine caster has to believe that the spell exists on their spell list before they can ask for it. So non-core spells would exist in stories of another caster of the same class and similiar diety that the original caster would have to research to know if true.

    So Thor could have a lot of spells that could get confused with Mass Death Ward (a spell I wouldn't have believed was 8th level. Waste) that Durkon doesn't know about.
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    So what does a Masked Debt Gourd do? Inquiring minds want to know.
    Maybe it will repossess Nale's wand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantine View Post
    Well, would you look at that. Another conveniently placed deus ex machina to balance the odds in favour of the bad guys.
    How new and exciting.
    Don't be utterly ridiculous. The fact that Nale owns a relatively inexpensive magic item is not even remotely surprising or unexpected, given his level, wealth, and the fact that last time we saw him, he said he was going to shop for magic items. (Second to last panel.)

    How exactly do you expect me to foreshadow each and every magic item that they have? Did you want me to dedicate an entire strip to Nale standing around saying, "Look at my new wand!"?

    Come on. Surprises are not Deus (or Diabolous) Ex Machinas, they're surprises. Nothing more or less. If you want to know every little thing that is going to happen before it happens, go read another comic.
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    So what does a Masked Debt Gourd do? Inquiring minds want to know.
    You use it to protect your assets from the lawyer's lawsuit for statutory damages!

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    When Durkon mention the "Cleric's Feather Fall" I was like that:

    When he cast Heal, I chuckled. That was one of the best D&D jokes ever

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    She almost certainly had to research them specifically, though. For simplicity, I usually assume that all spells in the SRD are "common knowledge" and everything else is "obscure/non-existent" unless someone has researched it. That's because the bulk of the reading audience won't know about each and every spell in 3.5, but most of them have the Player's Handbook.

    Plus, I didn't know Mass Death Ward was an actual spell until right this moment. I was merely extrapolating, I never checked any of the books for it. But it doesn't really affect the story either way, except for that I was pegging it at 7th level instead of 8th.
    That makes sense. I wasn't complaining about it, though, I just thought it was strange. The author has every right to decide what's possible and what's not. And let me add that the author really has a talent for storytelling.
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