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    Quote Originally Posted by flabort View Post
    Sounds like the class itself is actually pretty easy to work with, if so many people are "done" so fast.
    Or, the PrC only lends itself to certain streams of thought.
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    With regards to saves, are we using fractional saves or not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zipding View Post
    With regards to saves, are we using fractional saves or not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zipding View Post
    The problem I had was finding classes that would work for this.
    My choice of class was... not exactly arbitrary, but not particularly important. The class I ended up choosing works for the build pretty well, but it's not exactly... well, you'll see when it's posted. I don't plan on changing the base class.

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    except in footnotes for adaption.
    Wait, adaptation footnotes are allowed? That would make things so much easier!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateral View Post
    Wait, adaptation footnotes are allowed? That would make things so much easier!
    He means the footnotes you put in the build, that say how you could use "Option X" and "Alternate Rules Y" to make the build better.

    So you can say, "This build uses these components, but in order to save space to put these other components that go well with it in, you can use this Alternate Rule to not need these other components."
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    Quote Originally Posted by flabort View Post
    He means the footnotes you put in the build, that say how you could use "Option X" and "Alternate Rules Y" to make the build better.

    So you can say, "This build uses these components, but in order to save space to put these other components that go well with it in, you can use this Alternate Rule to not need these other components."
    Ah. That's a shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amphetryon View Post
    Or, the PrC only lends itself to certain streams of thought.
    And the winner is the one who applies the class to one of those OTHER streams of thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amphetryon View Post
    Or, the PrC only lends itself to certain streams of thought.
    I see what you did there.
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    Build submitted! Now I'm wondering if I have time for another build...
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    I see what you did there.
    Ach, I had that pun square in my sights and MISSED it! I must need sleep.
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    If it is not too late I would like to accept this challenge
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    Almost got the actual build done, after that, it's the backstory and uses of it.
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    Our bard after succeeding in 2 4e grapple checks to slam a female opponent who kind of looks like Ayn Rand:

    "I JUST POWERBOMBED AYN RAND!"

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    Gah. Now I've got an idea that will really work, but the base class doesn't really work anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enterti View Post
    If it is not too late I would like to accept this challenge
    You got over a week, go for it!

    Also, my idea is slowly coming together after much research, though I think it may be more thematic than effective. We'll see how it pans out, I guess...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cieyrin View Post
    You got over a week, go for it!

    Also, my idea is slowly coming together after much research, though I think it may be more thematic than effective. We'll see how it pans out, I guess...
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    This is brilliant.
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    Nicely done. Probably too cheesy for many tables, but I'd be inclined to allow it at mine, just for chutzpah.

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    Is there anyone here not competing who'd be willing to look over my build when it's done? (I'm not done yet, but I just think I should see if there's anyone willing to proofread.) Thanks!

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    how rapidly does the divert river ability work?
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    It's a class based off hippo-worshippers without a single hippo-related ability. I am shocked and appalled.

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    how rapidly does the divert river ability work?
    As a Sp ability, it takes a standard action, unless otherwise specified.
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    Regarding my Necrotic Apprentice trick:
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    This is brilliant.
    Regarding my Non-Epic Hidecarved Dragon:
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    Nicely done. Probably too cheesy for many tables, but I'd be inclined to allow it at mine, just for chutzpah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dextercorvia View Post
    As a Sp ability, it takes a standard action, unless otherwise specified.
    :D thanks thought so but just wanted to make absolutely certain before i built around that
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    I think the best worst best worst A PART of this one will be the puns. The class does lend itself to them. They just kinda flow.
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    "puns are for girls"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajadea View Post
    It's a class based off hippo-worshippers without a single hippo-related ability. I am shocked and appalled.
    To be fair, hippos aren't the main part of her portfolio, just her totem animal.

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    It's rather an interesting class, actually. It requires no spellcasting, but does have a 1/2 casting progression. It is a full BAB progression that offers Divine Power, which is rather useless if you enter it with full BAB progression. A good chunk of powers are 1/day or 2/day, meaning relying on them is going to probably get you hit in the head on your Power score.

    Judging should be interesting. There's a lot of trade-offs here. If you enter with a full spellcasting class, you're going to get hammered for wrecking your spell progression. If you enter as a class without spellcasting, then you get hammered in UoSI for failing to utilize it.

    I've got an idea floating around the back of my head. Maybe I'll let it percolate some more. I hope I'm not just living in DeNile by thinking I could pull this off.
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    Unexpected SNAFU has me considering scrapping my first idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amphetryon View Post
    Unexpected SNAFU has me considering scrapping my first idea.
    That happened to mine, too.

    Final build's coming along nicely, though.

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    Unexpected SNAFU has me considering scrapping my first idea.
    I know I should know what this acronym means.

    But I can't for the life of me remember.
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    Situation Normal: All Fouled Up

    Only many people choose to use a different word starting in F.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gbprime View Post
    Situation Normal: All Fouled Up

    Only many people choose to use a different word starting in F.
    Obviously, I meant "Fouled".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amphetryon View Post
    Obviously, I meant "Fouled".
    As opposed to Fowled, in which the situation would be full of poultry, which would be all kinds of odd.
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