CR Testing

[qube]

summon has somatic
you're grappled so you can't cast that

[qube]

wait... hmmm gnome
*dies and transforms back*
ACID REFLEX

[Bridgar]

SLAs:

A spell-like ability has no verbal, somatic, or material component, nor does it require a focus or have an XP cost.

From inside your stomach, I cast Maze on you. Vs SR: (1d20+20)[29] Would've worked too...

No Save, you're transported to an extradimensional space.

[Bridgar]

The two Storm Elementals charge you:

(1d20+29)[30] (3d6+11)[21] + (2d6)[3] electrical damage
(1d20+29)[47] (3d6+11)[23] + (2d6)[6] electrical damage

(1d20+29)[39] (3d6+11)[22] + (2d6)[8] electrical damage
(1d20+29)[49] (3d6+11)[18] + (2d6)[8] electrical damage

They also free-action shock you.

(12d4)[30] electrical damage DC 28 Fort for half.
(12d4)[32] electrical damage DC 28 Fort for half.

I hope you realize that your stomach damage can only barely beat my DR...
1 casting of Cure serious every couple of rounds is all I need...

[qube]

cool.

I can't do much now, except: start of your turn you get

(2d8+8)[20]crushing damage(dunno if that's the same as blund?) plus
(2d8+6)[18]acid.

(you may roll those yourself)
(and don't forget concentration checks ...)

[qube]

The two Storm Elementals charge you:

I assumed you failed your DC53 concentration check. (damage while casting, loss of spells) followed by dc 20 - casting while grappled

I hope you realize that your stomach damage can only barely beat my DR...
1 casting of Cure serious every couple of rounds is all I need...

acid goes past DR...

odd match it has become, right?

[Bridgar]

I assumed you failed your DC53 concentration check. (damage while casting, loss of spells)


acid goes past DR...

odd match it has become, right?

I finished casting. 1 round = 1 full round action. I spent a full round action on it, the effects just hadn't kicked in yet. No concentration check required.

Alright. Acid goes through. I need a cure serious every other round, now.

[qube]

I finished casting. 1 round = 1 full round action. I spent a full round action on it, the effects just hadn't kicked in yet. No concentration check required.

sadly though, I believe you're considered to be casting until the effect starts.

[drack]

Looks like it can't be reflected (not a line, ray, cone, or magic missile).
Technically it's -868 and a wish to kill it, not -10 ad a wish.
Elemental arrives on the beginning of bridgar's next turn.
the quickened and full round can both be done on the same round, as far as I know swift and immediate actions can occur on the same round full round actions (or should I say no full attack+quickened spell )

sorry, was out for a walk... for a few hours...

[qube]

Looks like it can't be reflected (not a line, ray, cone, or magic missile).
Technically it's -868 and a wish to kill it, not -10 ad a wish.
Elemental arrives on the beginning of bridgar's next turn.
the quickened and full round can both be done on the same round, as far as I know swift and immediate actions can occur on the same round full round actions (or should I say no full attack+quickened spell )

sorry, was out for a walk... for a few hours...

ok. (i still think he needs a concentration check though - but if the referee sayeth, so it shall be done)

1. what books are storm elementals from anyway?
2. if I was going into maze, would my lunch travel with me?

[drack]

it was MMIII or MMII, and yes your lunch is in you.

[qube]

and yes your lunch is in you.

cool.
... looking ...
pfff, I can't lower my SR vs maze in time

[Bridgar]

it was MMIII or MMII, and yes your lunch is in you.

No, it only targets you, not things you're grappling. Sorry, drack. I don't go with him.

Even if I did, I make the int check to get out immediately...

[drack]

oh yeah swallowing whole is a grappling of sorts than you need concentration check for being grappled and taking damage (or rather just the higher of the two)

also I've been wondering, if in a round warrior stabs mage, than mage casts spell (lets say standard action) than do we consider that damage to have occurred during the spell and hence require a concentration check, or is that, because I've been reading it as only if they specifically time it to disrupt you or if you cast a 1+round casting time/concentration spell.

also I'd call stomach damage continuous (so 10+1/2 damage)

[qube]

fort saves(requires anything but fumble) (1d20)[6] (1d20)[12]

attack one of the elms
Bite (1d20+37)[49] melee ((4d8+37)[52])
2 horns (1d20+32)[37](1d20+32)[38] ((1d10+28)[34](1d10+28)[35])
2 claws (1d20+32)[41](1d20+32)[41] ((1d12+28)[39](1d12+28)[38])
tail slap (1d20+32)[50] ((3d8+28)[43])
(edit:that's 181 damage after DR)

grapple (1d20+81)[92]

No, it only targets you, not things you're grappling. Sorry, drack. I don't go with him.

Sorry Bridgar, but I aint grappling anymore, you still are (as per swallow hole)

A swallowed creature is considered to be grappled, while the creature that did the swallowing is not.

edit: also your elementals are shaken unless they crit (+8 vs dc36)

also I've been wondering, if in a round warrior stabs mage, than mage casts spell (lets say standard action) than do we consider that damage to have occurred during the spell

imho no.
- spell start when the wiz start casting
- spell end when the effect starts

however in this case continual damage applies.


Ttn: wins init chain lightning and start summon Elm
Trq: charge n grapple (regen: full health)
Ttn: change in gnome
Elm: use a line attack (carapace negates)
Trq: swallow gnome
Ttn: fails maze
Elm: charges
Trq: attacks an elem (827 hp left)

[drack]

A swallowed creature is considered to be grappled, while the creature that did the swallowing is not.


imho no.

Yes, that was what I was recalling, so he doesn't pass through if he can succeed at casting logically you'd think lunch would go with you, but mostly your bowels and everything clear when you do such things, haven't you ever wondered how magi stay so thin? (half joking, but I had considered that)

good, thought not, but i keep almost convincing myself otherwise

[Bridgar]

fort saves(requires anything but fumble) [roll0] [roll1]

attack one of the elms
Bite [roll2] melee ([roll3])
2 horns [roll4][roll5] ([roll6][roll7])
2 claws [roll8][roll9] ([roll10][roll11])
tail slap [roll12] ([roll13])
(edit:that's 181 damage after DR)

grapple [roll14]

Sorry Bridgar, but I aint grappling anymore, you still are (as per swallow hole)

A swallowed creature is considered to be grappled, while the creature that did the swallowing is not.

edit: also your elementals are shaken unless they crit (+8 vs dc36)
imho no.
- spell start when the wiz start casting
- spell end when the effect starts

however in this case continual damage applies.


Ttn: wins init chain lightning and start summon Elm
Trq: charge n grapple (regen: full health)
Ttn: change in gnome
Elm: use a line attack (carapace negates)
Trq: swallow gnome
Ttn: fails maze
Elm: charges
Trq: attacks an elem (827 hp left)

I autosucceed the concentration check vs your pitiful continuous damage and the concentration check for grapple. Your carapace doesn't negate their attacks, it explicitly states that it only blocks spells. Thunder and Lightning is a Supernatural Ability, which is explicitly not a spell.

[qube]

I autosucceed the concentration check vs your pitiful continuous damage and the concentration check for grapple.

cool. as long as you don't forget to take it ( can you roll the 2d8+8 points of crushing damage plus 2d8+6 acid? as you are better aware when its your turn

Your carapace doesn't negate their attacks, it explicitly states that it only blocks spells. Thunder and Lightning is a Supernatural Ability, which is explicitly not a spell.

The tarrasque’s armorlike carapace is exceptionally tough and highly reflective, deflecting all rays, lines, cones, and even magic missile spells.

if it were all ray, line and magic missle spells, sure.
but as rays,... is plural, so spells doesn't apply to it (the plural of ray spell is ray spells, not rays spells). the plural of
- (ray and MM) spell is ray an MM spells
- (ray) and (MM spell) is rays an MM spells

[drack]

all rays, lines, cones, and even magic missile spells.

ok, slams are not rays or lines or cones or magic missiles, therefore it doesn't resist them

[qube]

ok, slams are not rays or lines or cones or magic missiles, therefore it doesn't resist them

for that I have AC, DR15/epic, high fort and regen

... this is their turn:
(1d20+29)[30] (3d6+11)[21] + (2d6)[3] electrical damage miss (AC)
(1d20+29)[47] (3d6+11)[23] + (2d6)[6] electrical damage = 14 (after DR)
(1d20+29)[39] (3d6+11)[22] + (2d6)[8] electrical damage = 15 (after DR)
(1d20+29)[49] (3d6+11)[18] + (2d6)[8] electrical damage = 11 (after DR)
(12d4)[30] electrical damage DC 28 Fort for half. = save succuss, 15
(12d4)[32] electrical damage DC 28 Fort for half. = save succuss, 16

with 40 regen,that makes 31 damage left, or 827 to go

[Bridgar]

Alright. The Titan changes back to Titan form and sits in the Tarrasque's stomach for 24 hours. He autosucceeds the concentration check to cast cure serious every round and can heal way more than you're dealing. 24 hours pass and he casts maze again. (1d20+20)[27] vs SR.

Rinse. Lather. Repeat.

[qube]

stomach for 24 hours. ... to cast cure serious every round and can heal way more than you're dealing.

seriously? you're gonna cast for at least 48hours straight?

besides, by the time you finaly cast it successfully (day 3+) (debate aside if it actually works), the tarrasque is back in torperous slumber.

[Bridgar]

seriously? you're gonna cast for at least 48hours straight?

besides, by the time you finaly cast it successfully (day 3+) (debate aside if it actually works), the tarrasque is back in torperous slumber.

All the better... he's asleep.

It's either that or I use Etherealness. They're both just to gain ground on you. I'm going to wait a day regardless to get all my abilities back.

Then, I get out with either 20 minutes on Etherealness or 10 minutes on Maze (you can never make a DC 20 Int check with 3 Int). After that, I cast Summon Nature's Ally 3 times and swarm you with 3d3 Greater Storm Elementals who stagger their Thunder and Lightning abilities to heal each other in combat. You reflect the ray, sure. The emanation, you can't reflect. They just pummel you for 2 minutes until you die. I spend every round firing off 1 or 2 Chain Lightnings which also heals them ridiculously.

[qube]

lets first roll to see how many day's I'm awake
(1d3)[2]

[qube]

so ...
DAY1:
Ttn: wins init chain lightning and start summon Elm
Trq: charge n grapple (regen: full health)
Ttn: change in gnome
Elm: use a line attack (carapace negates)
Trq: swallow gnome
Ttn: fails maze
Elm: charges
Trq: attacks an elems, they eventually die
Ttn: gets out eventually, but waits a day.
DAY 2:



init (1d20+7)[10]

[Bridgar]

Init:(1d20+1)[9]

[qube]

I spend every round firing off 1 or 2 Chain Lightnings which also heals them ridiculously.

2 chain light? 40d6/3 that's an average of 46 hp. Last time I dealt 180 damage. I still kill them 1 per 2 rounds.


btw, is this a titan with preperation? ethereal out, summon elementals and hope that they do the job? I'm pretty dissapointed...

[qube]

Init:[roll0]

I go first. rush + bite + grapple.


...
day3 I'm in torpor

[Bridgar]

I go first. rush + bite + grapple.


...
day3 I'm in torpor

I either get 10 mins (you're trapped in extradimensional space) or 20 mins (I'm ethereal, fly out of you, and go really far away to prep) of prep time. You can't do that...

I get all of them summoned and then they swarm you.

Not only do they all heal each other every time that they use Thunder and Lightning, I get either 1 chain lightning (20d6/2 avg 35 each) or 2 chain lightnings (40d6/2 avg 70 each) every round. They'll heal faster than you can kill them. Their lightning damage output is higher than mine by a lot.

[qube]

I either get 10 mins (you're trapped in extradimensional space) or 20 mins (I'm ethereal, fly out of you, and go really far away to prep) of prep time. You can't do that...

Look, I got no trouble with you using summon, but you created a situation where the titan basically is the weak link.

the awesome unequaled might of the titan you boasted about is reduced to I summon monsters and stay VERY far away. (at least 300ft - supposing you know the speed of rush.)

two can play that game. When you come out of ethereal (at least 300ft away), and start summoning all 3d3 elementals, I rush the other way (600ft) and keep running until they dissapear.
Thunder and lighting is a full round 60ft to use, so they'll never catch me in it.

20rnds later, problem solved