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    Please don't bump this thread just to keep it on the front page. Being on the second page does not equal "lost forever." Since it's highly unlikely I will stop making comments altogether, and every time I do a few dozen posters will rush here to record them, it's not going away any time soon.
    Very well. You're the boss.

    Question: Does this mean this thread will be exempted from the usual rules against thread necromancy, in the event you don't make additional comments for six weeks? I can well see that happening if you become busy. You're under no obligation to post anything at all, ever, save the comic itself.

    Stickying the thread would also help, but I believe it's already been decided not to do that.

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    We don't need to keep the Index bumped constantly

    Sorry, but somebody had to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pendell View Post
    Very well. You're the boss.

    Question: Does this mean this thread will be exempted from the usual rules against thread necromancy, in the event you don't make additional comments for six weeks? I can well see that happening if you become busy. You're under no obligation to post anything at all, ever, save the comic itself.

    Stickying the thread would also help, but I believe it's already been decided not to do that.

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    If it really did go that long, I don't see anything stopping ThePhantasm from just copy/pasting into a new thread.
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    I'm very curious how this project is perceived. Interesting? Mildly creepy? Jolly good effort? Oh-no-now-I-have-to-watch-every-single-thing-I-say-now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defiant View Post
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    Realistically speaking... D&D style magic doesn't exist, so... let's ignore reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defiant View Post
    I'm very curious how this project is perceived. Interesting? Mildly creepy? Jolly good effort? Oh-no-now-I-have-to-watch-every-single-thing-I-say-now?

    http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...7#post12102077
    "This thread is almost certainly going to expose the massive degree to which I wing everything I say."

    Also, he doesn't like the term "word of god" at least not applied to himself.

    http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...0#post14759880
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    Quote Originally Posted by Debatra View Post
    If it really did go that long, I don't see anything stopping ThePhantasm from just copy/pasting into a new thread.
    The only thing would be the mods locking the thread; at that point, you can't edit or quote any of the posts, which means you loose all the link meat-data (happened to me in MitD thread 3). But yes, lack of updates for six weeks would not automatically lock the thread. Not that I expect it to happen to this thread.

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    Question: Does this mean this thread will be exempted from the usual rules against thread necromancy, in the event you don't make additional comments for six weeks?
    [Not-a-mod]Probably not. But all Phantasm needs to do is PM a mod if the thread falls into a necromancy-worthy lull. That's what I was told to do if something like that happened to the MitD thread. The mods then would bump it themselves.

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    [Not-a-mod]Probably not. But all Phantasm needs to do is PM a mod if the thread falls into a necromancy-worthy lull. That's what I was told to do if something like that happened to the MitD thread. The mods then would bump it themselves.
    Thanks. That's probably an excellent answer and what the Giant himself would say, were he to post. Or at least, so my Giant-sense tells me. So I'll assume that's correct unless the Giant or a mod steps in and gives a more definitive ruling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
    The only thing would be the mods locking the thread; at that point, you can't edit or quote any of the posts, which means you loose all the link meat-data (happened to me in MitD thread 3). But yes, lack of updates for six weeks would not automatically lock the thread. Not that I expect it to happen to this thread.



    [Not-a-mod]Probably not. But all Phantasm needs to do is PM a mod if the thread falls into a necromancy-worthy lull. That's what I was told to do if something like that happened to the MitD thread. The mods then would bump it themselves.

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    If it does get locked due to thread necromancy, Phantasm could just ask a mod to send him the BBCode...
    that's what happens in the homebrew section when that occurs.
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    We don't need to keep the Index bumped constantly

    Sorry, but somebody had to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defiant View Post
    I'm very curious how this project is perceived. Interesting? Mildly creepy? Jolly good effort? Oh-no-now-I-have-to-watch-every-single-thing-I-say-now?
    All of the above.

    And yes, if this thread falls past the necromancy limit, just PM a moderator and they'll either bump it themselves or give permission to bump it. I just don't want to give "pre-permission" because I don't want to open a can of worms for other threads.
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    Addendum to the above:
    We can PM Mods to bump the Index thread if necessary.

    Ok, think I've run this joke into the ground now.

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    I don't now if we need this quote (and it will some day be obsolete anyway), but maybe we should ad it (I just needed to search for it for another thread)?

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    A game is a fictional construct created for the sake of the players, not the other way around. If you have a question "How do I keep X from happening at my table," and you feel that the out-of-game answer "Talk the the other people at your table" won't help, then the in-game answers "Remove mechanics A, B, and/or C, impose mechanics L, M, and/or N" will not help either.

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    Wow... lots of quotes. Let's discuss.

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    Don't include. Rich explicitly said he would post when the cameo occured, so this post adds nothing to the status quo.

    Consider including. It could come up again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kish View Post
    Include. No question.

    Don't include. This is one of those issues that comes up when the comic first comes out and never surfaces again.

    Don't include. Why would -anyone- want to discuss that EVER?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tragak View Post
    Include.




    And one of my own!

    GIF format is used to due technical limitations present when the comic launched.

    I am leaning towards not including this because, again, it has little to nothing to do with the strip or characters and is more just trivia, which isn't the purpose of the Index.



    The giant re-interating the difficulties with the murkiness inherent to the alignment system.

    I'd say include this one... it does contain some caveats about what Rich's intentions are when he declares a character to be X alignment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FujinAkari View Post
    Don't include. Why would -anyone- want to discuss that EVER?
    And yet, it keeps coming up. "Miko was out cold, why didn't Belkar at least make her think he'd raped her while she was out?" "Vaarsuvius is completely helpless next to Sabine, why isn't Sabine groping her/him?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by FujinAkari View Post
    GIF format is used to due technical limitations present when the comic launched.

    I am leaning towards not including this because, again, it has little to nothing to do with the strip or characters and is more just trivia, which isn't the purpose of the Index.
    This is a difficult one. On the one hand, the quote isn't directly about the OotS story (though we do have an art category in the first post). On the other hand, the question has come up before, probably will come up again and in the thread in which it was posted there were a couple people that sort of remembered the giant saying something about technical difficulties once. Which to me sounds like exactly like the kind of situation this thread was designed to prevent.

    I'd say include it in the Art category.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FujinAkari View Post
    Don't include. Why would -anyone- want to discuss that EVER?
    And yet, it keeps coming up. "Miko was out cold, why didn't Belkar at least make her think he'd raped her while she was out?" "Vaarsuvius is completely helpless next to Sabine, why isn't Sabine groping her/him?"
    Does it? I can't recall the last time this was seriously discussed, and I'd wager the kind of people that want to discuss this aren't the kind of people that will be convinced by a quote from Rich (I'm not counting a single loose comment as a discussion).

    Edit: And apparently there is a complete discussion going on about this in the main thread. I'm still not sure if it is worth including, but consider the above comment withdrawn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kish View Post
    And yet, it keeps coming up. "Miko was out cold, why didn't Belkar at least make her think he'd raped her while she was out?" "Vaarsuvius is completely helpless next to Sabine, why isn't Sabine groping her/him?"
    ... ok, we have to include that quote, and I have to go take a shower or something to try and wash those questions from my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halghare View Post
    The Linear Guild's descent into the pyramid took hours because they didn't have a rogue to disarm traps, causing the Guild and the Order to arrive around the same time. Nale likely had to take 20 on a lot of Search checks.
    I'm not sure these are really necessary for the index.

    Include.

    I think we should include this one, since it was the result of an honest mistake. A lot of time passed between the two strips.

    Include.

    Don't include.

    Quote Originally Posted by pendell View Post
    It took me forever to find it while researching, so I recommend this post for inclusion in the comments if it is not already included. The significant fact is that the nobles of Azure city have between 20 to 100 samurai and men at arms each, plus a few casters and ninja if that is their taste. There are a few dozen nobles.

    The importance of this is that the withdrawal of the nobles from the battle of Azure City had negligible impact on the overall military impact, something *I* had not realized until the Giant so clarified.

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    Brian P.'s comment highlights why this is a good candidate for inclusion: the Nobles deciding to keep their retainers out of the battle didn't make that much of an impact on the battle.

    Quote Originally Posted by pendell View Post
    How the giant draws the strips . Each strip is as long as it is precisely to achieve a particular impact. He writes first the speech, then foreground, then background, and finally the speech balloons.

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    Include both.

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    I don't now if we need this quote (and it will some day be obsolete anyway), but maybe we should ad it (I just needed to search for it for another thread)?

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    Don't include.

    Include.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tragak View Post
    Include both!

    Meh. Not really important. Don't include.

    I reluctantly vote that this comment needs to be included in the Index. It is unfortunate that Rich needed to explicitly state that and unfortunate that the Index needs to contain it, but this is a serious topic that should not be treated lightly. The fact that people keep bringing this up in the Main Comment threads or in new threads is revolting to me, so I vote to include.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePhantasm View Post
    Until I get this sorted out, does everyone mind keeping discussion to a minimum and only posting new quote suggestions? That way it is less likely I miss something else that gets added. If I'm unsure about including a certain quote I'll ask for a vote...

    I really do appreciate the discussions of each quote, its just I've got some catching up to do... my internet connectivity has been bonkers lately but it is holding up right now so hopefully it won't go down again.
    Folks, ThePhantasm still hasn't updated, so I think we should probably keep discussion to a minimum until ThePhantasm gives us the All Clear when it comes to discussing things.
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    A game is a fictional construct created for the sake of the players, not the other way around. If you have a question "How do I keep X from happening at my table," and you feel that the out-of-game answer "Talk the the other people at your table" won't help, then the in-game answers "Remove mechanics A, B, and/or C, impose mechanics L, M, and/or N" will not help either.

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    The role of the Nale's wand and the timing of Xykon's arrival at Girard's gate.


    Even though they are quite minor issues, I think they are worth posting, specially the first part, as they show how some small details may serve different story purposes.

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    I would actually ask that this one NOT be recorded. I am specifically responding to that one person and his extremely relentless criticism. I don't want it to be quoted and re-quoted as "The Giant says you should stop reading if you don't like it!" Because I would not say that in that language to anyone who hadn't repeatedly shown that they are incapable of enjoying the comic for what it is. It should not be extrapolated to mean any "you" that might be reading it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    I would actually ask that this one NOT be recorded. I am specifically responding to that one person and his extremely relentless criticism. I don't want it to be quoted and re-quoted as "The Giant says you should stop reading if you don't like it!" Because I would not say that in that language to anyone who hadn't repeatedly shown that they are incapable of enjoying the comic for what it is. It should not be extrapolated to mean any "you" that might be reading it.
    I agree, I simply posted it on the off chance that other people here might disagree with me. But I'm guessing after your response that no one will strongly object to not including it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 137ben View Post
    I agree, I simply posted it on the off chance that other people here might disagree with me. But I'm guessing after your response that no one will strongly object to not including it...
    Not only will people not strongly object, i would go so far as to say you should remove the link from your post. This is a quote that should not be preserved in any way, shape, or form.

    ((Rich or a mod would need to scrub Rich's quote as well, of course :)))
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    Quote Originally Posted by FujinAkari View Post
    Not only will people not strongly object, i would go so far as to say you should remove the link from your post. This is a quote that should not be preserved in any way, shape, or form.

    ((Rich or a mod would need to scrub Rich's quote as well, of course :)))
    That's silly. Keeping it out of the main index should be enough. If Rich had not wanted anyone else to see it, ever, he would have sent it as a PM.
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    Yeah, no need for scrubbing. The point is that the post's context is critical, and that context is adequately included both in the original thread and here with the link immediately followed by The Giant's explanation. It's just that putting it in the big compilation in the first post would risk losing that context and would serve no good purpose; it's not the kind of post people would likely want to reference.
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