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    I was talking to Thanqol about this, and after a few days of thinking it over it doesn't really seem like a terrible idea, so:
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    A group "learns-to-draw" thread, except you don't post everything you draw

    • A new exercise per week (or fortnight) every now and then (...). Many exercises may span a single theme, like line or tone.
    • Try and complete it to the best of your ability. Ask questions here if needed and we'll try to answer them together.
    • Post up your art by a deadline. Once we've got some art in the thread, everyone should try and leave some comments on other people's work.
    • There is no need to pad criticism as long as it is constructive.

    We will be focusing on fundamentals for now because that's a) ultra important and b) everyone could use more work on their foundations. For instance, my school provided us with art materials then left us to figure it out on our own. So I can do shiny stuff with pencils and Photoshop but my foundations aren't as solid as I'd like. The focus will probably tend towards figurative art, though we'll probably have some experiments in abstraction too. (Figurative includes both realism and manga/other stylized forms in my book.)

    Interested? We've started, but you can still join - reply with a link to your art; what you're interested in drawing/painting/whatever; and what media you have access to (pencil, paints, tablet etc.)

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    Interested in: I dunno, everything? But mostly humanoid character-driven illustrations (with backgrounds), comics, digital art and learning how to use oil paints
    Media: tablet, pencils, colored pencils, pens, charcoal, acrylic/watercolor/oil paint, umm a lot of stuff basically


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    I'm going to follow along for the challenges if no other reason

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    Default Re: [Gauging Interest] Art Upgrade Project

    Hm, this is somewhat similar to the Challenge thread, innit? Except more on the informative side than the practice side.

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    Mm, not quite. More of like a structured pseudo-art course thing for now.

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    I'm interested; it would help to have some concerted direction for these drawing thingies.
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    I might be interested in this...
    I'll be honest and say I get fairly anxious about putting my stuff 'out there' for people to see, when it's my personal drawings, at least.

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    Art: I've not got a thread or other particular online gallery (my photobucket is too scrappy to count) but I'll edit some examples in here later, probably I inked and coloured some of Mazeburn's sketches, have started and failed to complete a few multi-paged fancomics for the Murphy's Law fancomic, contributed to the late collaborative forum comic, Round Robin and have posted a couple of things to do with the play by post campaigns I'm in
    Interested in: illustrative stuff and sequential art and you know... just doodling.
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    ...huh. There are pretty much no finished pieces in there. Ah well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domochevsky View Post
    Hm, this is somewhat similar to the Challenge thread, innit? Except more on the informative side than the practice side.
    In the "something is drawn every week" sense, I guess so. But the Challenge is more of a quantity/practice based ironman thing with a lot of freedom, where this seems much more focused and... what Saeyan said

    In any case, this is a great idea. I'm in!
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    I can't promise to participate with any degree of consistency, but sure, I'm in. :D

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    This sounds like a fantastic idea! Heaven knows I could use a little direction and a lot of work on the fundamentals. Consider my card thrown into the pile.

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    Art: Drawthread is right here, and I might throw in a link to my dA eventually, once I decide to update it for the first time in a few years >___>;;
    Interested In: Improvement. I'm stagnant, and the thought of that is even worse than my skill level. Ultimately interested in character drawing, cartooning, and animation. The odd landscape is fun, and I can never draw too many world trees.
    Media: Primarily tablet w/Photoshop Elements. Pencil too, but my scanner... less than ideal right now.

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    Okie Doke, sure. I could certainly stand to improve, if only so I don't lose sight of Thanqol over the horizon

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    Art I have a bunch of stuff scattered throughout. Bits in Thanqol's art thread, some in Ponythread learns to draw (Together!) and all the rest scattered throughout the MLP:FiM threads proper. I have an old dA account I'm not allowed to link to, as well, but that was mostly for social networking XD

    Interested In depth; I've seen a pics by a friend and was blown away by the feel of of it. Clean line work; because. Cartooning/Sequential art; because it's my usual medium despite my sucking at it. Digital painting & color theory; because Moe is inspirational, and I can only go so far with a mechanical pencil and some 2b lead.

    media is pencil and paper. I have an old, old tablet somewhere, and could probably grab a digital program, but want a better understanding of what I'm doing, so I don't light it on fire in frustration.


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    It seems like fun, so I want to try too! I will do my best. Let's enjoy drawing together.

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    Interested in: I want to join in the community, I want to learning digital drawing, to make beautiful coloring, and landscape with characters. I want to make another comic, maybe for English. I want to make 'finished picture'.
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    I"d be interested if only I understand what this thread is about even by a tiny bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fri View Post
    I"d be interested if only I understand what this thread is about even by a tiny bit.
    As far as I understand, it will go something like this:

    - Let's draw something involving lots of dramatic lighting, people!
    One week later:
    - Okay, here's mine!
    - Here's what I did.
    - OMG, that sucks!



    ..Except, you know, with more constructive criticism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaytara View Post
    As far as I understand, it will go something like this:

    - Let's draw something involving lots of dramatic lighting, people!
    One week later:
    - Okay, here's mine!
    - Here's what I did.
    - OMG, that sucks!

    ..Except, you know, with more constructive criticism.
    haha! A little bit, but probably more boring for now. Basic shapes, lines, simple perspective...I'm thinking the first one will be on lines and line quality - a very basic 'varying line weight' kind of thing. (Feel free to skip the earlier things Kay; I'll be forcing myself to go through all of them because I really need to work on foundations)

    I'm considering keeping technical exercises like that in this thread, but also getting you guys to draw things specifically applying what you learned from an exercise, posting that in your own art threads, and linking them back here. Was sick and can't really think straight so I'll come back later with some diagrams to make things clearer.

    Fri, think "Drawing 101".
    SiuiS, what do you mean by 'depth'?
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    It sounds like fun (and useful). I've been rather busy with school of late, so I might not be able to participate very consistently, but I'd like to take part.

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    Interested In: People in fantasy settings, armour, weapons, fight scenes, dragons, that sort of thing. Occasionally other things as well.
    Media: Mostly I just use a mechanical pencil, but I'm interested in other things also. Digital painting, for instance.

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    I think I'd like to pitch my hat into this; I've been trying to work on drawing again, and this would help the motivation/inspirations, I guess.

    All my stuff is going to look hilariously extra horrible though, due to lame scanners and the like.
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    I'm in, when I can. I like having a set timeframe to do it in, forces me to get on with the job

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    Art: Some on my blog.

    Interested In: I can draw people - I need to draw people in action more, with more expressions and that sort of thing. Drawing dudes. Also working without line art into a more realistic style than semirealistic (think the face at the end of this post).
    Better shading.

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    great, more people! I have two exams, two interviews and one university application due soon so maybe we'll only get started proper around 2nd Dec. Everyone interested is still welcome to throw their hat into the ring.

    ninja penguin do you have any art posted online?
    zorg, that's a decent tutorial which covers many points I'm also planning to go through. But I am not a fan of the erase-the-lines-later approach. If you can help it, start light and let your shading overtake the lineart as the picture progresses.

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    Ah, I understand what this is about now.

    Anyway, my gallery is in my sig, and what I'm interested in is slightly different.

    What I'm interested in is constructive criticism. For a while, I've been feeling that my drawing isn't improving. I've been stuck in this amateur level for a long time, and I want to know, what's missing from my drawings to make it looks professional.

    A lot of artist community are stuck in 'if you don't have anything good to say don't say anything.' I wish to know what do I miss to make my drawings looks more professional because I can't find it myself.

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    A lot of artist community are stuck in 'if you don't have anything good to say don't say anything.'
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    Don't worry, I'll crit you hard (though that may be difficult for the simpler exercises) and hopefully set the tone for the whole thing.

    First exercise will be on line weight and line quality, how about that?
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    I can probably try and participate.

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    Iunno, you might wanna start off with something easier than lineweight, since you need to understand weight first for that to work. Maybe go for "break a body down into basic shapes" first?

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    What's that you say? deviantART?
    Do you know of any moderately-big places where a budding artist can network and get critisism? Like deviantart, just serious about it. I know of conceptart.org, but the overall skill level is sliiiiiiiiiiiightly above mine, and I had very little succes here on gitp.


    @Fri, if you come to DA, I'll be more than willing to exchange critisisms (same with any other online art gallery, but I don't know any better). I suspect Domo would be delighted, too - he's great at kicking my butt, at least
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    Maybe go for "break a body down into basic shapes" first?
    Line weight does require some knowledge of weight but that comes in mostly in gesture drawing, which we are nowhere near yet. For now it is more about creating a visual effect (light and shade, some rhythm) instead of conveying the weight distribution of the object. And most of us need to work on line quality. But that is a good idea, maybe for the second exercise.

    Do you know of any moderately-big places where a budding artist can network and get critisism? Like deviantart, just serious about it. I know of conceptart.org, but the overall skill level is sliiiiiiiiiiiightly above mine, and I had very little succes here on gitp.
    Networking, yes, DA is valuable. Crit, hardly. CA is starting to become a bit of a mixed bag now...there are more people coming in who crit without the art to back it up. But it's a good place. Love it to bits.

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    haha! A little bit, but probably more boring for now. Basic shapes, lines, simple perspective...I'm thinking the first one will be on lines and line quality - a very basic 'varying line weight' kind of thing. (Feel free to skip the earlier things Kay; I'll be forcing myself to go through all of them because I really need to work on foundations)

    I'm considering keeping technical exercises like that in this thread, but also getting you guys to draw things specifically applying what you learned from an exercise, posting that in your own art threads, and linking them back here. Was sick and can't really think straight so I'll come back later with some diagrams to make things clearer.

    Fri, think "Drawing 101".
    SiuiS, what do you mean by 'depth'?
    Difficult to explain. A sense of three-dimensionality in a single figure; I create 'depth' between different subjects, but I can't create depth in a single subject, even though logically parts of a body are further back that others. Instead, they come out flat.

    Does that make sense?

    Also, I need this sort of thing more than I thought; you only Wen into line weight and you've already lost me.
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    ninja penguin do you have any art posted online?
    I do not, I'm afraid. I used to draw a bit, and tried to do a webcomic in high school. It was one of those godawful things that you do in high school and thank the gods that keenspace crashed and blew it up so nobody ever saw it.

    I'm a bit of an incurable doodler, and I've been working at trying to develop my creative stuff to some unknown extent as a hobby. I understand basic proportion, but fail hard at shading and implying 3-dimensionality. I also have the problem that my eyes see things in realistic detail, but I draw in rather simplified ways so there's a serious disconnect with what I see, what I draw, and how happy I am with it.

    As for a 'medium', right now my art supplies consists of a mechanical pencil with .5mm HB lead. My theoretical goal is to get my drawings up to the point where I can theoretically ink and color them on a computer, I guess. That help a bit?
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    I do not, I'm afraid. I used to draw a bit, and tried to do a webcomic in high school. It was one of those godawful things that you do in high school and thank the gods that keenspace crashed and blew it up so nobody ever saw it.

    I'm a bit of an incurable doodler, and I've been working at trying to develop my creative stuff to some unknown extent as a hobby. I understand basic proportion, but fail hard at shading and implying 3-dimensionality. I also have the problem that my eyes see things in realistic detail, but I draw in rather simplified ways so there's a serious disconnect with what I see, what I draw, and how happy I am with it.

    As for a 'medium', right now my art supplies consists of a mechanical pencil with .5mm HB lead. My theoretical goal is to get my drawings up to the point where I can theoretically ink and color them on a computer, I guess. That help a bit?
    who are you and how have you lived my life?
    I couldn't remember that keenspot URL if I tried...

    This is basically what I'm working with, if it helps at all Saeyan.
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    I may be interested... Well, I'm interested in getting better at art, but I tend not to do well with structured activities and am quite busy, so no promises.

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    I would be very interested in joining, I really want to improve my abilities.

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    Default Re: [Gauging Interest] Art Upgrade Project

    Cool, anyone else?

    Looking through everyone's work, first exercise is definitely going to be about line quality. Will get it up over the weekend. Is this load for homework okay, too much or too little? --> A page of line exercises, one observational drawing and optionally one drawing from imagination.

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    (haven't been updated in a while and you can read the comic here)

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