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    Welcome, contestants, judges, and guests to Iron Chef XXVI. Here in Optimization Colosseum, contestants will endeavor to create an optimized and flavorful character using a specified D&D3.5 prestige class as a "Secret Ingredient".

    Contestants: You will need to present your build at at least one of the following points: 5th level, 10th level, 15th, 20th, and a "sweet spot" that you feel is the high point of the build. Feel free to present as many of these as you like, and please give a rundown of the build's abilities and playability at all of the levels you didn't show. The rules are as follows:

    Menu: For most challenges, the "special ingredient" will be drawn from Core plus Completes. There will, from time to time, be special challenges that showcase secret ingredients from other books--for example, the XPH.
    32 point-buy is the presumed creation method, but we have generally allowed other levels of point-buy.
    If you do use a different point-buy, please make your case for its necessity in your entry. Keep in mind that for using exceptionally large or small point-buys may warrant deductions in elegance and/or power.

    Kitchen: Competitors will be free to use any official 3.5 rulebook in constructing their builds. Dragon magazine is disallowed, and Unearthed Arcana is allowed; but see Elegance below. Web-exclusive 3.0 or 3.5 materials by WotC are expressly allowed, but take care to verify that an updated version did not appear in print elsewhere, as this may cause an Elegance deduction at the judges' discretion. Alternate rule systems from UA such as gestalt are not allowed, as they create a different playing field. Also, item familiars are forbidden because I hate 'em.

    Cooking Time: Contestants will have until 11:59PM GMT on Monday, December 12th, 2011 to create their builds and PM them to the Chairman, Amphetryon. Builds will then be posted simultaneously, to avoid copying. Judges will have until 11:59PM GMT on Friday, December 30th, 2011 to judge the builds and submit their scores. If no judges have scored by that point, only the scores of the first judge to submit will be counted. (Judges are getting a couple of extra days due to the holidays). If you do not have access to the current challenge's Secret Ingredient, please do not volunteer to judge this round.

    Judging: Judging will be based on the following criteria, with each build rated from 1 (very poor) to 5 (exemplary) in each area: Originality, Power, Elegance, Use of Secret Ingredient.
    Power level is up to you. Cheese is acceptable, but should be kept to a sane level unless you're showcasing a new TO build you've discovered. In the words of one of my predecessors, a little cheddar can be nice, but avoid the mature Gruyere unless you're making a cheese fondue.
    Elegance could bear a little elaboration. It basically measures how skillfully you put your build together, and whether you sacrificed flavor for power. We're cooking here - if your dish doesn't taste good, it doesn't matter how well-presented it is. Use of flaws is an automatic loss of one point per flaw in this category. Other things that will cause lost points here are excessive multiclassing, and classes that don't fit the concept - using Cloistered Cleric in a front-line melee fighter, for example, will lose you points. Please note the following change: a legal source's relative obscurity should not be considered as penalizing Elegance, excepting the aforementioned issues with Unearthed Arcana. Using too many sources may be an Elegance deduction at the judges' discretion, but a book's relative obscurity may not.
    Presentation: Builds will be posted anonymously, in order to avoid the potential of bias towards a particular competitor. For this reason, please don't put your name in the build, as I'm likely to miss it when reviewing the entries!
    Due to concerns about standardizing entry format, I'd like everyone to try to use the following table for their entry.
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    20th|New Class Level|
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    12th|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities

    13th|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities

    14th|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities

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    20th|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities[/table]

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    For other systems (Psionics, ToB, Incarnum, etc.) keep track of PP/maneuvers/essentia separately, preferably in a nice neat list.
    Speculation: Please don't post or speculate on possible builds until the "reveal," in order to avoid spoiling the surprise if a particular competitor is producing a build along those lines.

    Leadership is banned; we're producing a meal, not a seven-course banquet for a hundred diners.

    So! Who wants to sign up as a contestant, and who wants to sign up as a judge? Looking for as many contestants and judges as feel like playing!

    This week's special ingredient is:
    Complete Arcane's Mindbender!
    We will have trophies for 1st through 3rd places, as well as a special trophy for honorable mention. The honorable mention prize is given to the most daring or unexpected build. Judges, contestants and guests alike are invited to vote for honorable mention via PM.

    Allez optimiser!

    Contestants
    Fearan
    Hunter_Killer
    Dumbledore_lives
    TheGeckoKing
    Piggy_Knowles
    Z3ro
    Amechra
    Venger
    RedWarrior0
    Wings_of_Peace
    dextercorvia
    DonutBoy12321
    nedz
    Zaq
    Narsis
    Gotterdammerung
    Grey McBannert
    Tyndmyr
    Diefje
    Tono
    Sgt. Cookie
    gbprime
    TerrickTerran
    OMG_PONIES


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    Iron Chef I: Entropomancer
    Iron Chef II: Psibond Agent
    Iron Chef III: Cancer Mage
    Iron Chef IV: Stonelord
    Iron Chef V: War Chanter
    Iron Chef VI: Master of Masks
    Iron Chef VII: Green Star Adept
    Iron Chef VIII: Pyrokineticist
    Iron Chef IX: Animal Lord
    Iron Chef X: Mythic Exemplar
    Iron Chef XI: Blade Bravo
    Iron Chef XII: War Mind
    Iron Chef XIII: Vigilante
    Iron Chef XIV: Seeker of the Song
    Iron Chef XV: Drunken Master
    Iron Chef XVI: Assassin
    Iron Chef XVII: Ardent Dilettante
    Iron Chef XVIII: Unseelie Dark Hunter
    Iron Chef XIX: Dread Pirate
    Iron Chef XX: Incandescent Champion
    Iron Chef XXI: Ghostwalker
    Iron Chef XXII: Dervish
    Iron Chef XXIII: Divine Crusader
    Iron Chef XXIV: Tactical Soldier
    Iron Chef XXV: Scion of Tem-Et-Nu
    Iron Chef XXVI: Shadowdancer
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    Wow, the dip guy. Ok, put me up as a contestant.
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    I'm in. Contestant again. I'm going to win this one this time.
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    All right I'll try, but it's going to be kind of difficult with the thrall, I guess it would be best not to stat out one, but to outline what kind of thrall you want.
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    Oh good grief. A half-caster I can't throw Ur-Priest at . Well, I guess you can put me in as a contestant, even though I really have no idea.
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    This will definitely be interesting. Like I said in the previous Challenge, I won't participate, but I will take a stab at judging.
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    I highlighted a change in rules above, but it bears repeating:

    While I'm chairing (at least), Obscurity is not to be considered a factor in Elegance.
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    Oh man, I already have a build in mind. Let's see if this can come together, but there's a lot of good stuff to eke out of Mindbender!

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    I may compete with this one, but I was looking for a clarification:

    We're not looking to stat out any thralls, right? Leadership is banned for good reason, and you could pull a lot of shenanigans with a thrall, so I'm assuming we're leaving it out for similar reasons, correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z3ro View Post
    I may compete with this one, but I was looking for a clarification:

    We're not looking to stat out any thralls, right? Leadership is banned for good reason, and you could pull a lot of shenanigans with a thrall, so I'm assuming we're leaving it out for similar reasons, correct?
    For our purposes, I'm perfectly fine with folks explaining the 'party role' that any "thralls" subjected to Eternal Charm fill, but ask that their character sheets be left blank, so to speak. If you're using Eternal Charm to get a trapmonkey, for example, say so, but don't go so far as Spellthief 1/Beguiler 6/Unseen Seer 5/XXX 8 or whatever.
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    Hmm... You know what?
    I'll judge this time. Will post criteria in a bit.

    Originality
    Did you find any new use of the prestige class? Did you combine it with a base class / other prestige classes in an interesting way. Going with something strange, only to be strange will not give a bonus to originality.

    Power
    Can your build contribute to (or outshine) a group? Is your build effective against appropriate CR enemies? Is your build effective against higher CR enemies? Can you handle a variety of enemies (Undead, Oozes, Incorporeal Creatures etc) Do you have a variety of tools and tactics available? When in doubt, big numbers are good. Please explain tactics.

    Elegance
    To be honest, I hate this category. Dipping will not be penalized. Class Variants will not be penalized. Qualifying with items and spells will be. Not meeting qualifications will be. "Shopping Lists" will not be penalized, however remember wealth by level. Try not to mix setting material. Ways to gain points in this category? Using resources well together. (Class A complements Class B and works with Feat C)

    Use of Secret Ingredient
    Do you qualify for the secret ingredient? Do you take all the levels? Do you use all of the abilities? Do you use the abilities in new ways? Is the secret ingredient a good choice for your build?
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    I'm in.

    And it shall be GLORIOUS!

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    I'm in!

    I've always wanted an excuse to use mindbender for more than a one level dip and now I'll have some.
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    You know, I've kind of wanted to do one of these... Might do it.

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    Sweet! My suggestion was accepted!
    I guess I'll be participating, then. This will be great fun.
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    Count me in for this one.
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    I'll have to think about this one. I'm sure I can come up with something.
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    Stupid question... Is the "Adaption" section of PrCs okay to use for this challenge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonutBoy12321 View Post
    Stupid question... Is the "Adaption" section of PrCs okay to use for this challenge?
    I think that ought to be fine, it'll mean more variety amongst contestants. what's the chairman say? psionics are yes or no?
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    Stupid question... Is the "Adaption" section of PrCs okay to use for this challenge?
    The Adaptation is fundamentally an entirely different class, so I'm going to say no, just the standard version, please. As it is, there are multiple ways to enter.
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    Alright, I've got an idea. I'm in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amphetryon View Post
    The Adaptation is fundamentally an entirely different class, so I'm going to say no, just the standard version, please. As it is, there are multiple ways to enter.
    okeydoke. thanks for the prompt response before I could get too far into my psionic build
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amphetryon View Post
    The Adaptation is fundamentally an entirely different class, so I'm going to say no, just the standard version, please. As it is, there are multiple ways to enter.
    Okay... Now to find a non-psionics build.
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    I'm in, provided that I have time - which might be tricky since I'm about to move house.
    π = 4
    Consider a 5' radius blast: this affects 4 squares which have a circumference of 40' Actually it's worse than that.


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    I'll post my criteria for judging tomorrow, when the interest increases and we get more contestants.
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    Quick Question about this class, as i am a bit confused (might be because i'm tired, it's 5 in the morning here in Denmark and havn't gotten to bed yet =P ) But does this class both give you the ability to permanently dominate 1 monster, aswell as charming 3 pr. day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akto View Post
    Quick Question about this class, as i am a bit confused (might be because i'm tired, it's 5 in the morning here in Denmark and havn't gotten to bed yet =P ) But does this class both give you the ability to permanently dominate 1 monster, aswell as charming 3 pr. day?
    Yes. (styrofoam packing peanuts, crumpled up newspapers, commercials)
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    To clarify: Dragon Compendium is or is not allowed?
    Quote Originally Posted by SheepinDisguise
    There's no I in team. There is, however, an I in Wizard, Cleric, Druid, StP Erudite, Psionic Artificer, LE Candle of Invocation, Miracle, and Wish. There is no I in Trunamer or Monk though.
    True. However, there is also an I in Samurai.


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    To clarify: Dragon Compendium is or is not allowed?
    Dragon Compendium is allowed.
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    Yes. (styrofoam packing peanuts, crumpled up newspapers, commercials)
    Thank you... =) and i have a feeling there is a joke hiden there, but my tired mind is in no way able to get the pun (pun)

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