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    Tarquin, you magnificent bastard! I want to read your book! Great comic.
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    If the players figure out and try to stop this from occuring, the wizard instantly crafts a HUGE mound of quarterstaves and clubs to obscure himself before teleporting out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan Wick View Post
    This, of course, raises the question of why Tarquin sent the OOTS off: to reinforce Girard against Nale, to get them out of his hair, for some reason related to why Penelope died, just to get the band back together and to their destination, or because he knows Girard is predisposed to hate them? Or some other reason entirely?

    Also, so much for any theories that Tarquin and Nale are in cahoots.
    he didnt want to send them off per se but had no way to convince them to stay without revealing he knew Nale was there pre-mature

    since they were convinced he was heading to windy canyon they would hurry there ASAP and Tarquin would have no way to stop them short of force or by severly hampering there mission

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    Tarquin is way too competent for a mere subplot villain. The Giant subverting another narrative convention?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rman View Post
    Then Tarquin would have known all along there was a drow posing as the elven ambassador. Interesting.
    Dang, I was about to post that.

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    Run, Nale, run, outrun my pun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arakune View Post
    Tarquin is way too competent for a mere subplot villain. The Giant subverting another narrative convention?
    In case you haven't noticed, Tarquin seems to know about and makes plans to prevent all the tropes.
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    That is easily the funniest strip I've seen in a while. I like Tarquin. He's becoming one of my favorite villains.

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    If there is ever an OoTS movie, I vote Patrick Stewart for Tarquin.
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    a strip that did a great job of adding to the story and delivering the best punch line in a long time :) , love the invisaNale running for dear life
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgrau View Post
    In case you haven't noticed, Tarquin seems to know about and makes plans to prevent all the tropes.
    Well, just the ones he doesn't like. Evil is cool like that.

    Your admiration makes me wonder just a little bit less why so many turn to evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keld Denar View Post
    If the players figure out and try to stop this from occuring, the wizard instantly crafts a HUGE mound of quarterstaves and clubs to obscure himself before teleporting out.

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    I think this comic's title should be changed from 'Parental Insight' to 'Parental Supervision'.
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    The big question right now is:
    Will Tarquin let Nale escape or is he going to give chase?
    Because if he lets him run i would really wonder what Tarquin's plan with Nale is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M.A.D View Post
    So, what we know about Penelope other than her background with Draketooth is that she purged all Evil components out of the castle's hair product, she apparently was content with Tarquin enough that she'd tell him about her personal stuffs like having a "friend" finding out about Draketooth for her, and she gave Tarquin a useful magic item for his birthday.

    Sounds like a decent person! Also, I believe she really did love Tarquin (Not many women wouldn't, if he put his mind to it) and he had nothing to do with her death.
    Penelope was Tarquin's 9th wife, it was his 8th wife that purged the Evil components out of the castle's hair products. If anything it could be argued that she was anything but a decent person. Every other one of Tarquin's wives mentioned thus far have had some issues with him or his alignment. Penelope is the first one revealed so far to show no indication of having a dislike for Tarquin (though to be fair, for all we know about Tarquin's 8th wife she could have simply purged the evil components due to what they did to her hair, and not because she had any moral compunctions about using them).

    I do agree with you that Tarquin probably had nothing to do with her death. Though we have little information regarding their marriage, evidence so far suggests that they were happily married, or at least content with one another to the extent that neither tried to divorce and/or kill the other.

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    Remember when Elan and Tarquin first met? Tarquin asked Elan if he'd defeated any villains. Elan asked him if Nale counts, to which Tarquin responded "Eh.. Not really."

    Now I know why.

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    Note that Malack still doesn't know Nale is right there at that moment.

    By talking about Nale's vulnerability in general terms Tarquin can make things worse for both Malack and Nale. Well played mr. villain sir !

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    over the strips that tarquin has been present he has gradually become my favorite character. I do hope he doesnt vanish into the background too far after this arc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forikroder View Post
    he didnt want to send them off per se but had no way to convince them to stay without revealing he knew Nale was there pre-mature
    Nale certainly has a lot of growing-up to do, if that's what you mean...
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    Sigh. While various logical reasons for Tarquin letting Nale go (in this) update have been pointed out (and none of them seem wrong or even unlikely), I'm sure part of Tarquin letting Nale run off like that is because of the former's love for the dramatic.

    I really would rather Tarquin finally just went all George R. R. Martin on Nale. Nale is just such an annoying character. No matter the threat he poses (to Elan, to Tarquin, to the Order, to the world!) or the cunning and cruelty he's shown, he just doesn't compare with any of the other villains. Sure, he adds and pushes the story along, but he's just such an irritating character.

    Compare him to his father: Tarquin is truly, horrifyingly Lawful Evil, an amazingly competent, intelligent, charming and dangerous adventurer, and yet also the World's Most Awesome Dad all rolled into one. He's such a deep, compelling and admirable character. We loved him when we finally got to meet him in the flesh, shared Elan's terror at realizing his true character and power, then loved him again in the previous update.

    Nale is nowhere near any of that despite his high levels and intimate involvement in the plot as a side antagonist (where Xykon is the main). He pops up to complicate things (which, I admit, fleshes the story out more) but nothing more. It's so hard to appreciate him despite the antagonism he provides.

    If only Tarquin would finally end him by taking away his one remaining hit point. But no, Tarquin will most likely not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Gamera View Post
    ... unless he's out of all 4th-level-or-higher spell slots for the day, which is perhaps the answer to the question "why wasn't Dimension Door Nale's first action in the last panel?"
    Another reason is that it draws a circle (range of spell) that Nale is definitely inside of. Malack is going to be ready if Nale shows himself again.
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    RUN, NALE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armadeo View Post
    I do agree with you that Tarquin probably had nothing to do with her death. Though we have little information regarding their marriage, evidence so far suggests that they were happily married, or at least content with one another to the extent that neither tried to divorce and/or kill the other.
    ...At least until she told him that she was going to try and find her first husband. One of the few things Tarquin seems to have in common with Nale (besides the evil, of course), is his willingness to take disproportionate revenge over quasi-imagined slights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sith_Happens View Post
    ...At least until she told him that she was going to try and find her first husband. One of the few things Tarquin seems to have in common with Nale (besides the evil, of course), is his willingness to take disproportionate revenge over quasi-imagined slights.
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    A Ring of True Seeing. This has to be a very expensive item, and the only person who can make one is surely in the dungeons of the Empire of Blood. After all, Tarquin would not want the secret of that item to fall into the hands of every two-bit adventurer (or even Nale).

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    For some reason, I can see this happening:

    -Nale escapes and is like, "Mwahahaha, the fool!"
    -Tarquin goes all "Everything is going according to plan."
    -Cut to Tarquin being on a TV and:
    Aw, it's so sad how he thinks he's such a chess master.
    Oh look, a finger pyramid of evil contemplation! How cute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gift Jeraff View Post
    Maybe it's just because I'm getting sick of all this Tarquin love.
    The Tarquin love I don't mind, but all the "ZOMG genre saviness!!!1!one!" is really getting to me. There's at least half a dozen mentions of that in this thread alone, despite that the strip has NOTHING to do with genre conventions and is purely knowing his son and tactical thinking. I'm starting to think if "genre savvy" is code on these boards for "every possible reason anything happens" or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    The Tarquin love I don't mind, but all the "ZOMG genre saviness!!!1!one!" is really getting to me. There's at least half a dozen mentions of that in this thread alone, despite that the strip has NOTHING to do with genre conventions and is purely knowing his son and tactical thinking. I'm starting to think if "genre savvy" is code on these boards for "every possible reason anything happens" or something.
    Don't complain too much, or the posters might go with "Deus ex Machina" all over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    The Tarquin love I don't mind, but all the "ZOMG genre saviness!!!1!one!" is really getting to me. There's at least half a dozen mentions of that in this thread alone, despite that the strip has NOTHING to do with genre conventions and is purely knowing his son and tactical thinking. I'm starting to think if "genre savvy" is code on these boards for "every possible reason anything happens" or something.
    Try reading the first three panels again - there's plenty of genre savvy right there.

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    Guys, we know that Tarquin and Sons are basically the ultimate tropers--do you really think Tarq is gonna steal Malack's kill?

    I'm expecting some sort of 1HP cherry-tap so that our (other ) cleric friend can do the honors.
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