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    Default Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)

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    I will stop reading Bleach if that happens.
    You'll be stopping reading Bleach anyway Kubo cuts it when this arc is over because it is the final arc.

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    Default Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)

    I predict that Ichigo defeats the Vandereich after the Gotei 13 are destroyed, and then unites all three factions through Nell, the one guy who used to be in this comic Ishida, and himself. Everyone will be better off that way, since all four groups will have a leader they can trust in Ichigo.

    And then he will become spirit king or whatever.
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    And if the Gotei 13 doesn't fall, what then? Ichigo wipes out the Quincy presence in Hueco Mundo, the Shinigami takes out Buckbeard and his Stern Ritter and everyone lives happily ever after?

    That would be terrible.
    This. For absent god's sake lets have some captain deaths.

    Prediction - this big bad will go after Aizen (to eat/absorb and become immortal.)
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    Ah right, Spirit King.


    We better see him during this final arc, especially since he's such a big deal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyren View Post
    This. For absent god's sake lets have some captain deaths.

    Prediction - this big bad will go after Aizen (to eat/absorb and become immortal.)
    But only we've made sure to actually see their bankais.

    In all honesty, I hope we don't get a bunch of character deaths this arc. They wouldn't have any impact at this point in the storyline, it'd just be a completely pointless way to prove that these new guys are NO REALLY UBER-AWESOME!

    IMO the climax of Bleach already happened with Aizen getting defeated and Ichigo losing his powers. Other than getting to see the remaining unsaid Bankais there's really nothing more to be gained from the series, even if they do try to go into detail about this Spirit King or even hell.

    Maybe Kubo can screw up finish Zombie Powder after this instead. ((Yes, I know that won't happen.))

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    Default Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)

    Looks like we are going to in the SS for awhile until the battles are done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HandofShadows View Post
    Looks like we are going to in the SS for awhile until the battles are done.
    And suprisingly (after may be 2 chapters worth of action) he has already shown too much of this battle for my tastes. Unless he intends to have another silly SS victory.

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    The worst part is that Quincy all have the same abilities, don't they? It's not like Arrancar with their different animal motifs or even Fullbringers/Bount with their quirky toys. The particle absorption and final form crap is stuff they can all do; how many varieties of bow and arrow can he really pull out of his posterior to keep the battles interesting?

    Unless he starts giving them swords (and face it, he will, lore be damned ) I just don't see how these fights will be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyren View Post
    The worst part is that Quincy all have the same abilities, don't they? It's not like Arrancar with their different animal motifs or even Fullbringers/Bount with their quirky toys. The particle absorption and final form crap is stuff they can all do; how many varieties of bow and arrow can he really pull out of his posterior to keep the battles interesting?

    Unless he starts giving them swords (and face it, he will, lore be damned ) I just don't see how these fights will be interesting.
    They all seem to have different styles at least. I wish Kubo would have just cut to Ichigo's fight and later had the rag tag remains (assuming they lose) of the SS show up later. But I doubt thats going to happen.

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    Reading newest chapter I realized that I'm so apathetic about Bleach that I think the happiest even remotely possible ending I could have would be for it the end with every, and I mean every, Soul Reaper dead with the a single sound being heard from the victorious Quincy....

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    Sadly that won't happen. I doubt anyone with a name will actually die except these boring hax powered Quincies. What do you think would happen if we went back in time five or six years and told people Bount filler arc would be more interesting then how the whole manga ends?

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    Default Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)

    New chapter. But no-one cares.

    Also, suggestion for the name of next Bleach thread: Bleach VI: Well that was a waste of time part II (Quincy? What's that?)
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    Default Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)

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    Oh hey the captains actually thought of something smart. Too bad they based it on the wrong facts.

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    Default Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)

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    New chapter. But no-one cares.

    Also, suggestion for the name of next Bleach thread: Bleach VI: Well that was a waste of time part II (Quincy? What's that?)
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    Did you notice how Hitsugaya's Bankai no longer has the floating flowers? Seems Kubo was being honest when he said Hitsugaya mastered his Bankai over the timeskip.

    It's becoming more and more one-sided, though, this fight. Stealing Bankai thematically fits how the Quincy work, but if they actually use those Bankai... That's a huge boost to their reiatsu on top of giving them the Bankai's abilities as well. How can you beat someone with a weapon five to ten times stronger than what you've got?

    Komamura is the only one who might pull through - and even then that's only because his Bankai transfers the damage dealt to it to the wielder as well.
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    Default Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Soras Teva Gee View Post
    Reading newest chapter I realized that I'm so apathetic about Bleach that I think the happiest even remotely possible ending I could have would be for it the end with every, and I mean every, Soul Reaper dead with the a single sound being heard from the victorious Quincy....

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    Sadly that won't happen. I doubt anyone with a name will actually die except these boring hax powered Quincies. What do you think would happen if we went back in time five or six years and told people Bount filler arc would be more interesting then how the whole manga ends?
    What are you talking about? The whole manga ended when Aizen was beaten, remember? There's no such thing as Fullbring or competent Quincies. Still not nearly as good as the Rukia Rescue arc though.

    The rest of this is just non-canon filler.

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    Oh, if only Tsukishima could've used his hax rewrite power to make Bleach good again.

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    Did you notice how Hitsugaya's Bankai no longer has the floating flowers? Seems Kubo was being honest when he said Hitsugaya mastered his Bankai over the timeskip.

    It's becoming more and more one-sided, though, this fight. Stealing Bankai thematically fits how the Quincy work, but if they actually use those Bankai... That's a huge boost to their reiatsu on top of giving them the Bankai's abilities as well. How can you beat someone with a weapon five to ten times stronger than what you've got?

    Komamura is the only one who might pull through - and even then that's only because his Bankai transfers the damage dealt to it to the wielder as well.
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    The vizards still have there hollow abilities, though I don't think any of them had there Bankai taken yet.
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    If they steal bankais then surely we will get to see Sasakibe's and everyone else's abilities in use. Right?

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    Default Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)

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    The look on Byakuya's face is priceless. But I wonder how the Bankai stealer works. Isn't the bankai the "final form" of the Zanpakuto or something? If they can steal the bankai couldn't they just steal the whole sword while they were at it (maybe they did!)
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    Default Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)

    My guess is they just absorb a shinigami's reiatsu through their bankai. But since Ichigo already lost his power and got it back it's more strongly tied to him. Or to put it another way: By the end of this arc the gotei 13 will have mastered fullbrings.
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    Default Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)

    Quote Originally Posted by jindra34 View Post
    I would call that mulling it over. In a more serial comic though you definitely need to script ahead.
    No, "mulling it over" happens BEFORE you put things to paper/computer screen. Revision happens AFTERWARDS.

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    Default Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Xondoure View Post
    My guess is they just absorb a shinigami's reiatsu through their bankai. But since Ichigo already lost his power and got it back it's more strongly tied to him. Or to put it another way: By the end of this arc the gotei 13 will have mastered fullbrings.
    Could also be that Ichigo's is so tightly packed that it's harder to drain. Like drinking a really thick milkshake through a straw.

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    Default Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)

    I just realized - this whole bankai-stealing thing makes Kenpachi the most dangerous captain going right now. He's straight-up fought his fellow captains' bankai and won before, and he doesn't have one to steal.
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    Default Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)

    And oddly he have not seen Kenpachi so far.

    I think I have a clue on how the Bankai stealing thing works. When you call forth a Bankai you bring the sprit of the sword fully from the inner world into the outside world. Also at this point it is almost seperate from the Soul Reaper (this is what creates the huge effects we see). In Ichigo's case his Bankai is concentrated on himself (as others have mentioned) so there is no seperation or a very limited one. Remember way back when Byakuya complained that Ichigo's Bankai was the opposite of what a proper one should be?

    These guys CAN be beaten though. The SS just has to figure out how to do it.

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    Default Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)

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    These guys CAN be beaten though. The SS just has to figure out how to do it.
    These guys have done their homework on the SS, and everything they have seems to be a direct counter to standard tactics from the SS. I'd like to see them react to stuff like Shunko, or Kido onslaught.

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    Default Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)

    I just want to point out that of the bankais taken, two have been abused nearly every arc, canon or filler, to the point where they're cliche, and the other two are actually pretty bad in the handicaps they give. In fact all four have been shown to have specific weaknesses.

    So if the UberQuincy end up using the bankai against SS, they might be in for an unpleasant surprise.

    A shame Kira had to get taken out so early. If only Shikais are available, his is one of the best.

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    What remains to be seen is whether the quincy are restricted to stealing one bankai each, or whether they can steal more...
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    Default Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)

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    I just realized - this whole bankai-stealing thing makes Kenpachi the most dangerous captain going right now. He's straight-up fought his fellow captains' bankai and won before, and he doesn't have one to steal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercenary Pen View Post
    What remains to be seen is whether the quincy are restricted to stealing one bankai each, or whether they can steal more...
    Bankai stealing is related to those weird talismans they carry. And given the change they probably can only steal 1 bankai per talisman, but it would be down right stupid to only give each soldier 1 one so likely more than 1 per person.

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    Default Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)

    Quote Originally Posted by jindra34 View Post
    Bankai stealing is related to those weird talismans they carry. And given the change they probably can only steal 1 bankai per talisman, but it would be down right stupid to only give each soldier 1 one so likely more than 1 per person.
    Maybe there is a reason each can only use one?

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    Default Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)

    Quote Originally Posted by jindra34 View Post
    These guys have done their homework on the SS, and everything they have seems to be a direct counter to standard tactics from the SS. I'd like to see them react to stuff like Shunko, or Kido onslaught.
    Probably have some counters to those as well. The SS will need out of the box thinking to win. We saw Byakuya doing a little earlier in this battle (surprise!). Time in the land of the living might have expanded some of the officers minds a little? I really don't think the SS will win this round or will take very heavy losses if they do win.

    There is question that I don't think has been asked though. Where have the Quincy been getting there information? They seem to have too much info to have gotten it from watching from a distance. Is there an inside man?

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    If Uryu was not helping the quincies, I would be MORE shocked...
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