Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)

**Ramza00** · 2012-09-25, 09:36 AM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Hadrian_Emrys

As a side note, I agree that the Aizen twist was a great reveal. However, Bleach died the moment said villain started to monologue. I forget if the hair slick was before, or after, the expeditionary speech of his...

The stern face was after he stabbed his own vice captain. Suddenly mister lovable dad is a monster.

His glasses crumbling to dust and his hair going all gel and shiny (aka he looks like superman not clark kent) happens after he finished monologuing and was escaping to hueco mundo. After gelling his hair, he then tells Ukitake (Rukia's captain) that he will fill the unbearable void in heaven.

**Drolyt** · 2012-09-25, 01:37 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Ramza00

The stern face was after he stabbed his own vice captain. Suddenly mister lovable dad is a monster.

His glasses crumbling to dust and his hair going all gel and shiny (aka he looks like superman not clark kent) happens after he finished monologuing and was escaping to hueco mundo. After gelling his hair, he then tells Ukitake (Rukia's captain) that he will fill the unbearable void in heaven.

Which was one of the most awesome moments in anime. Really, until a little ways after that Bleach was my favorite manga (of those I was reading at the time I mean, not of all time). I thought it was amazing. And then it went to hell.

**darksolitaire** · 2012-09-25, 02:17 PM (ISO 8601)

We can discus whether or not Aizen is awesome, but let us have some tea first.

**Tenno Seremel** · 2012-09-25, 02:56 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Frozen_Feet

Also, I bet you Mayuri is off somwhere, doing something sinister. I wouldn't even discount the possibility of him being the one to backstab Yamamoto.

If he will I doubt it's going to be about this. He accused Yama~~-dharma~~ of being unable to kill ~~Mozart~~ Bach in the past, so killing Yama is kind of… off. He might be evil, but not random evulz.

**LaZodiac** · 2012-09-25, 03:00 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Tenno Seremel

If he will I doubt it's going to be about this. He accused Yama~~-dharma~~ of being unable to kill ~~Mozart~~ Bach in the past, so killing Yama is kind of… off. He might be evil, but not random evulz.

This is MAYURI we're talking about. You can't discount him being random for what seems to be "the evuls"

Also, did we ever find out what that stuff was he found in Heuco Mundo?

**HandofShadows** · 2012-09-25, 04:23 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Tenno Seremel

If he will I doubt it's going to be about this. He accused Yama~~-dharma~~ of being unable to kill ~~Mozart~~ Bach in the past, so killing Yama is kind of… off. He might be evil, but not random evulz.

Yeah. While a nasty piece of work, Mayuri seems very loyal to the SS.

We never did find out what he got in Heuco Mundo. Might be that we do find out in this arc though.

**Xondoure** · 2012-09-25, 04:48 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by HandofShadows

Yeah. While a nasty piece of work, Mayuri seems very loyal to the SS.

We never did find out what he got in Heuco Mundo. Might be that we do find out in this arc though.

Assuming Kubo remembers something that happened to a side character.

**Battleship789** · 2012-09-25, 05:06 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Xondoure

Assuming Kubo remembers something that happened to a side character.

Like Chad?

**VanBuren** · 2012-09-25, 05:18 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Battleship789

Like Chad?

Chad and Ishida: "Main" characters.

**Battleship789** · 2012-09-25, 05:32 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by VanBuren

Chad and Ishida: "Main" characters.

Oh yeah, I think I remember seeing Ishida in this arc...

**LaZodiac** · 2012-09-25, 06:19 PM (ISO 8601)

Ishida DOES actually appear in this arc. He was part of the guys who ate Orohime's bread at the start of this. And that's it, far as I can recall.

**Dante & Vergil** · 2012-09-25, 08:22 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by HandofShadows

Yeah. While a nasty piece of work, Mayuri seems very loyal to the SS.

We never did find out what he got in Heuco Mundo. Might be that we do find out in this arc though.

I think those bodies may have been mentioned in the Light Novelas that came out recently.

**Hadrian_Emrys** · 2012-09-26, 02:06 AM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Ramza00

The stern face was after he stabbed his own vice captain. Suddenly mister lovable dad is a monster.

His glasses crumbling to dust and his hair going all gel and shiny (aka he looks like superman not clark kent) happens after he finished monologuing and was escaping to hueco mundo. After gelling his hair, he then tells Ukitake (Rukia's captain) that he will fill the unbearable void in heaven.

Yeah. That is the exact moment when Bleach started its downward spiral into increasing levels of depressingly bad.

**HandofShadows** · 2012-09-26, 04:06 AM (ISO 8601)

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Looks like the old man took out Bach. Or did he? Last page hints that Bach sent someone else in his place. I don't think old man Yama could be faked out unless he never met the *real* Bach.

**darksolitaire** · 2012-09-26, 04:36 AM (ISO 8601)

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Well I'll be! Juha pulled old switcharoo! Does anyone want to bet if he's the blond sternritter standing nearby? Also, Yamamoto explaining why some Bankai's can't be stolen, and saying that Ichigo's can still evolve. Now isn't that just going to be most OP thing ever?

**Haruspex_Pariah** · 2012-09-26, 05:56 AM (ISO 8601)

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But why would he send a dupe though? Is the real Bach sneaking doing sneaky things while Yama was distracted, or was he just trying to expose Yama's full bankai?

**Socratov** · 2012-09-26, 06:48 AM (ISO 8601)

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I just hate the fact that we still haven't seen the dualwielder bankais as was promised to us...

for the rest North seems to be a finishing move? Kind of a letdown at this point...

**HandofShadows** · 2012-09-26, 07:00 AM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Haruspex_Pariah

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But why would he send a dupe though? Is the real Bach sneaking doing sneaky things while Yama was distracted, or was he just trying to expose Yama's full bankai?

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I think that Yama never met the real Bach and he has been staying in the background. Both your possible reaons can work

Originally Posted by Socratov

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I just hate the fact that we still haven't seen the dualwielder bankais as was promised to us...

for the rest North seems to be a finishing move? Kind of a letdown at this point...

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The arc is FAR from over as the last page shows.

**Julian84** · 2012-09-26, 07:44 AM (ISO 8601)

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It would appear the good captain commander has been hoodwinked. What a tweest!

**DiscipleofBob** · 2012-09-26, 08:24 AM (ISO 8601)

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I'm guessing that the real Juha Bach sent a double so that Old Man Yama would be forced to go all out. I'm betting he won't be able to go full power again with it. Either that or Bach's been watching and analyzing so he could actually steal Yama's Bankai this time.

Of course that still begs the question on how the impostor was able to beat Kenpachi without a scratch.

**lord_khaine** · 2012-09-26, 09:02 AM (ISO 8601)

I'm guessing that the real Juha Bach sent a double so that Old Man Yama would be forced to go all out. I'm betting he won't be able to go full power again with it. Either that or Bach's been watching and analyzing so he could actually steal Yama's Bankai this time.

Of course that still begs the question on how the impostor was able to beat Kenpachi without a scratch.

The imposter still had to be insanely strong so that he wouldnt faint in the presence of Commander Genocide, and he needet to make him use the full power of his Bankai as well, so the imposter was proberly drawn from among the best men Bach had availeble.

**Prime32** · 2012-09-26, 10:27 AM (ISO 8601)

So now the real Bach fully understands Yamamoto's bankai, and can theoretically steal it. Unless he's been keeping "Zanka no Tachi: Center" in reserve...

**Frozen_Feet** · 2012-09-26, 10:37 AM (ISO 8601)

Center? Hah! Next, he'll whip out Zanka no Tachi: South by Southwest: everyone must partake in a musical number BECAUSE FIRE!

**DiscipleofBob** · 2012-09-26, 10:50 AM (ISO 8601)

Zanka no Taichi: Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right A B Start.

Gives him all the powers of Ichigo, Aizen, and Tsukishima combined (any maybe some other guys too) except made of fire.

**LaZodiac** · 2012-09-26, 11:20 AM (ISO 8601)

I'd just like to note that, to anyone reading this series from like, this or last chapter on, Genryusai looks like the villian.

**Dusk Eclipse** · 2012-09-26, 11:22 AM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by LaZodiac

I'd just like to note that, to anyone reading this series from like, this or last chapter on, Genryusai looks like the villian.

Wait... isn't the black haired guy the hero? Man... I had this whole mange wrong the whole time

**Tenno Seremel** · 2012-09-26, 11:40 AM (ISO 8601)

North can still be something more than a finishing move, it's just his opponent died right there and we don't get to see anything else that could happen if he survived.

**thubby** · 2012-09-26, 11:45 AM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by LaZodiac

I'd just like to note that, to anyone reading this series from like, this or last chapter on, Genryusai looks like the villian.

well since the manga has gone to lengths to ensure we understood SS was at least somewhat corrupt, it doesn't surprise me.
i find it refreshing that not all the good guys have "good" powers.

**Mando Knight** · 2012-09-26, 12:10 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by DiscipleofBob

Zanka no Taichi: Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right A B Start.

Gives him all the powers of Ichigo, Aizen, and Tsukishima combined (any maybe some other guys too) except made of fire.

Except it's B A.

Also, Yamamoto looks like he himself has taken quite a hit from his own power... again.

Also also, Renji might also be immune to Bankai theft, since he got his Bankai roughly around the same time Ichigo did. Being a secondary character, though, it's not likely he's got enough growth left to be immune.

**Maugan Ra** · 2012-09-26, 02:18 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Frozen_Feet

Center? Hah! Next, he'll whip out Zanka no Tachi: South by Southwest: everyone must partake in a musical number BECAUSE FIRE!

I don't know about you, but if a man wielding the power to reduce creation to ash pointed his flaming katana of death at me and ordered me to dance... I'd dance

That said, I am pleasantly surprised to see Yamamoto winning that fight. I mean, I know I said it earlier, but I still sort of doubted it would happen without a dramatic reversal or something.

Also, white-haired guy is the real boss. Repeating my claim, and calling it for the next chapter.

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