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2012-09-28, 08:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things I May No Longer Do While Playing III: I May Not Iron Heart Surge Rule Zero
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2012-09-28, 08:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things I May No Longer Do While Playing III: I May Not Iron Heart Surge Rule Zero
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2012-09-28, 09:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things I May No Longer Do While Playing III: I May Not Iron Heart Surge Rule Zero
From Player's Handbook, 3.5
This armor consists of shaped and fitted metal plates [...] includes gauntlets, heavy leather boots, a visored helmet and a thick layer of padding that is worn beneath the armor.
Emphasis added. Real life metal armors included underarmor as well-it prevented chafing, burning and other such maladies that would have resulted otherwise.
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2012-09-28, 09:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things I May No Longer Do While Playing III: I May Not Iron Heart Surge Rule Zero
As someone who has fought in plate armor, I can tell you that I would rather wear no plate armor at all than unpadded plate armor.
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2012-09-28, 10:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things I May No Longer Do While Playing III: I May Not Iron Heart Surge Rule Zero
it doesnt actually account for the weight in the PhP despite the fact it describes it being there. there also is a distinct lack of rules for putting the quilted armor on without putting on the full plate
Realistically, ya, you would never want to wear full plate without padding, although you could perhaps get away without anything under a very well made breastplateLast edited by toapat; 2012-09-28 at 10:32 PM.
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2012-09-28, 10:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things I May No Longer Do While Playing III: I May Not Iron Heart Surge Rule Zero
Fairly sure that the padding, while thick and sturdy, is not technically made for standalone armor, so it would be a really weird cornercase to allow someone to partially don armor and get almost the benefits of padded armor. I.e., it's an acceptable break from full simulation.
As far as the weight goes, I'm given to understand that 50lbs is not an unreasonable figure for the entire suit: padding, plates, accessories, and all; rapidly comparing it with 10lb for regular padded armor doesn't show any very obvious discrepancy, either.Projects: Homebrew, Gentlemen's Agreement, DMPCs, Forbidden Knowledge safety, and Top Ten Worst. Also, Quotes and RACSD are good.
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2012-09-28, 11:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things I May No Longer Do While Playing III: I May Not Iron Heart Surge Rule Zero
Most functional plate armor isn't as thick as you would think it would need to be; somewhere between ~20 gauge (0.0359 inches) and ~10 gauge (0.1345 inches). The thickest parts of armor were of course the Cuiress (torso) and helm. The thicknesses are approximations based on my knowledge of metals and physics as I have sadly never had the chance to get a close look at real combat armor.
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*I may not have a crusader cohort that is a better paladin than the PC paladin
**I may not use leadership to start a trading empire
*** Nor may I use it to start cult that worships my PC so she may ascend
****NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE LEADERSHIP EVER!!!!
*****NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE ANY COHORT FEAT!!!(Wild Cohort, Dragon Cohort, etc.)
(And i haven't even done these yet )Last edited by saxavarius; 2012-09-28 at 11:21 PM.
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2012-09-28, 11:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things I May No Longer Do While Playing III: I May Not Iron Heart Surge Rule Zero
60 Lbs is the average for period armor with the padding, DnD full plate is made for people who are typically even larger, as well as only weighing 50 lbs.
Just a quick point: Crusaders only make better "Paladins" when you are taking the default fluff stance for paladin. Paladin Mechanics better support them as doctors or as mage slayers.Last edited by toapat; 2012-09-28 at 11:23 PM.
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2012-09-28, 11:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-28, 11:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-28, 11:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-28, 11:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things I May No Longer Do While Playing III: I May Not Iron Heart Surge Rule Zero
I am not seaweed. That's a B.
Praise I've received A quick outline on building a homebrew campaign
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2012-09-28, 11:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things I May No Longer Do While Playing III: I May Not Iron Heart Surge Rule Zero
Oh my. I'd never seen that before. Alas, twas I that hath not done mine homework. My apologies, Toapat, I remove my hat to you.
Last edited by Riverdance; 2012-09-28 at 11:46 PM.
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2012-09-29, 02:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things I May No Longer Do While Playing III: I May Not Iron Heart Surge Rule Zero
* I may not insist in-character that Pelor is any variety of Evil.
** Especially not if I am capable of out-arguing/debating the Cleric/Paladin of Pelor on that point.
*** When I suddenly become a valid target for Smiting after doing the above, I am not to cite that as further evidence.
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2012-09-29, 03:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-29, 08:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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****If i am Arguing that Pelor is Evil, i better damn well be evil before i start doing so. Otherwise the paladin of Slaughter 10/Blackguard 10 is going to rip me in half with his completely overpowered class interaction glitch
*****I am not to abuse a data leak in blackguard that makes a pseudo-lvl 21 paladin at lvl 11
4th post in the topic, they posted the original statblock for pelor (which even in lore is more accurate then the one in Deities and Demigods)Last edited by toapat; 2012-09-29 at 08:54 AM.
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2012-09-29, 11:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things I May No Longer Do While Playing III: I May Not Iron Heart Surge Rule Zero
Yeah, I'm aware of the thread, but that post (which is no more official than anything else, that I know of) disagrees with the OP on its chosen alignment, which is why I said usually NE.
Anyway, back on track.
* I may not allow arguments on whether Pelor is NE or CE to stall the game session.
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2012-09-29, 11:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things I May No Longer Do While Playing III: I May Not Iron Heart Surge Rule Zero
*The DM (not the sourcebooks; not some random people on the internet) says what alignment all npcs are. This includes gods. No arguing.
**He also decides what the alignment of each PC is, based on how they act. Still no arguing.
***If I am the dm, I am required to allow more than 9 character personalities.
****18 isn't enough either
*****If it is a finite number, it's not enough.
******We are no longer using alignment. At all.
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2012-09-29, 02:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things I May No Longer Do While Playing III: I May Not Iron Heart Surge Rule Zero
There's a lot of things I'm not allowed to do now, but most of them are covered by the list already... Hope the following are exceptions.
* May not play a level 1 expert with a +22 diplomacy check
** Or wizard.
* May not take flaws at all.
* None of my skills may be more than +8 at level 1.
** Nor initiative.
* May not buy a candle of invocation.
** Or wish for it.
*** Even if it's within my WBL.
**** Ditto for scrolls of gate.
***** No wondrous items without specific approval.
* May not use any of the calling or polymorph spells.
** Or images.
*** Or wish. No matter how I get it.
**** Or any spell considered "cheese" anywhere.
***** Especially if my character is not a spellcaster.
* May not outclass the party meatshield with a trained hireling.
Edit: @^: May not lecture other players on the benefits of TN alignment as opposed to the others.
** Or any other optimization.Last edited by rockdeworld; 2012-09-29 at 03:01 PM.
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2012-09-29, 04:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things I May No Longer Do While Playing III: I May Not Iron Heart Surge Rule Zero
** I may never mention Pelor or his alignment in this thread ever again.
*The halfling will not die if I sit on him.
**If he performs a devastating sneak attack from beneath me I am not to complain.
***I am not to assume that all halflings are rogues, they find it offensive.
****No, not even if it happens to be true in this case.
**If the Barbarian sits on him he will die.Last edited by Riverdance; 2012-09-29 at 04:24 PM.
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2012-09-29, 04:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-29, 04:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things I May No Longer Do While Playing III: I May Not Iron Heart Surge Rule Zero
I may no longer have characters that take Improved Combat Expertise, and have better to hit and damage than the party's Big Stupid Fighter while at full combat expertise.
Especially as a monk.Last edited by Techwarrior; 2012-09-29 at 04:51 PM.
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2012-09-29, 05:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-29, 05:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-29, 05:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things I May No Longer Do While Playing III: I May Not Iron Heart Surge Rule Zero
Oh my... Now I'm convinced he's evil... o_o
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2012-09-29, 05:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-29, 08:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-29, 08:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things I May No Longer Do While Playing III: I May Not Iron Heart Surge Rule Zero
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2012-09-29, 09:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-29, 09:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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