MS Paint Adventures V: THIS IS STUPID

[Gez]

Time is super weird in Homestuck, so don't pay attention to the Earth's timeline. What matters is the incipisphere timeline.

Pesterchum/Trollian/etc. works through it, which is why the B2 kids were synched up despite the Prospit dreamers being from an older time than the Dersite dreamers.

[Inyssius Tor]

If Dirk and Roxy are in the future, what about the assassination attempts? They all seem to happen at the same time, so is it shown from the future? Spades talks to Diamonds Droog after the [S] Prince: Rise Up flash, so they are in the same time line.

They all happened in the B2 Incipisphere. Each Incipisphere and each universe has its own separate timeline, and the time in one is independent of the time in any other--look at the A2 trolls, who interacted with the kids just fine despite creating their universe literally hours earlier.

[Guancyto]

So, I said this when the fenestrated panel got teleported too, but

god dammit, another compromised first guardian?

[smuchmuch]

(Well I think by definition they are all compromised since they are created to do the biding of L.E (or at least it sees that way)
Becquerel was just a bit different since being a dog he was also fiercly loyal to jade so he tried to compromise as best as he could between his two imperative. godcat probably doesnt have such qualms.)

So, if I understand well, the condece used her domination of the alpha session to recreate her army of drones (likely using the ectobiologyl labs from the meteors), then used her battleship as the meteor that was supposed to hit Jane's house and exiled herself with her army to take over earth ?
I guess getting a new planet would be the reward for her services, still doesn't explain what her 'boss' gain from all this, tough.

What I wonder, was what were that weird code thing that appeared near Jane's spite before she entered. A cheatcode to allow her to enter the medium without a prototype ? (I mean she does enter, you can see the blue glow and her house diseapear before the B.C appears)

[tyckspoon]

What I wonder, was what were that weird code thing that appeared near Jane's spite before she entered. A cheatcode to allow her to enter the medium without a prototype ? (I mean she does enter, you can see the blue glow and her house diseapear before the B.C appears)

If I remember right from waaaay back when, that's just the sprite trying to communicate- they can't actually speak intelligibly until after they've been prototyped.

[Gez]

Ooh, a shadock!

Kernelsprites can't talk until they've been doubly-prototyped.

Rose's sprite was silent until Jasperized (and even then, it took a while for him to become talkative), Dave's sprite was also silent until it became Davesprite (or Calsprite, hoo hoo hee hee haa haa), and Jade's sprite was equally incapable of speech until it fused with Dead Dream Jade.

[Kizor]

then used her battleship as the meteor that was supposed to hit Jane's house and exiled herself with her army to take over earth?

This is brilliant and the first answer I've found to a question that didn't come up in the video at all, so we probably should be asking it:

Why did Betty Crocker let Sburb alpha get leaked?

[Grytorm]

So so you think that Jane is in the session? Or did she not make it in? I couuld see it be either way.

[Gez]

The flash is called Jade: Enter, so I think that she did Enter.

Of course her situation looks irregular, as she appears to be floating in space instead of in being in her house transported somewhere else. But that might be GCAT's dealing again. He did prevent prototyping the kernelsprite (since there were no prototyping towers, it wouldn't have worked anyway), so he is busy making sure things happen as they should even if it requires weirdness.

The house has been transported somewhere, that much is certain.

[Dragonus45]

I think its more that Gcat was always going to have stopped the prototyping so there were never any towers.

[Draconi Redfir]

(Well I think by definition they are all compromised since they are created to do the biding of L.E (or at least it sees that way)
Becquerel was just a bit different since being a dog he was also fiercly loyal to jade so he tried to compromise as best as he could between his two imperative. godcat probably doesnt have such qualms.)

Only Doc Scratch is loyal to L.E. Normal first guardians are made simply to protect the planet they exist on soas to prevent premature destruction.

Ooh, a shadock!

Kernelsprites can't talk until they've been doubly-prototyped.

Rose's sprite was silent until Jasperized (and even then, it took a while for him to become talkative), Dave's sprite was also silent until it became Davesprite (or Calsprite, hoo hoo hee hee haa haa), and Jade's sprite was equally incapable of speech until it fused with Dead Dream Jade.

It needs to be prototyped with something that can understand languige, the trolls were able to communicate with their sprites and they were only prototyped once.

Bec just had super god powers so his voice was messed up beyond reccognition.

[smuchmuch]

oh, okay thanks, forgot about the sprite talk.

Ooh, a shadock!

(eh, can you think of anything more apropriate to appreciate a webcomic where straight lines do ten to be the longest path between two points ansd the shortest so often involves so many twist and turns ?)

Only Doc Scratch is loyal to L.E. Normal first guardians are made simply to protect the planet they exist on soas to prevent premature destruction.

I'm not so sure about that. They do share the same source of power as he does and I wouldn't be surprised if he holded possibly some mesure of control (even if quite possibly indirect and possibly subtler for some )
This is mostly speculation on my part, but I don't remember anything contradicting it.. (And that would put Jade accessing Bec power with her god tiering in a very different light wouldn't it ?)

Bec just had super god powers so his voice was messed up beyond reccognition.

(Yeah but so would bec Noir, BecJadesprite or current godtier BecJade, so how come they can talk ? Possibly they have more 'control' over their voices or does green sun power get diluted in successive prototyping and god tiering ?)

[Draconi Redfir]

I'm not so sure about that. They do share the same source of power as he does and I wouldn't be surprised if he holded possibly some mesure of control (even if quite possibly indirect and possibly subtler for some )

unlikely, we've seen that only Doc scratch is neccicary for his summoning, and there is a first guardian for every planet that holds sentiant life in the universe. The presince of the Troll's multi-planet empire shows that there is much more then one sentient species per universe as well. even if (an unlikely if IMO) every first guardian worked for LE, they wouldn't really be doing anything that involves him, as only Doc scratch does it, and there is only one Doc scratch per universe.

As for the green sun powers, you and i both gather our energy from food and water right? that doesn't mean we are working with one annother does it? It's perfectly reasionable to assume the first guardians (minus Doc) and LE have no relaition asside from a common power sorce. Just as my raidio has nothing to do with my computer, despite the fact that the two are plugged into the same outlet.

This is mostly speculation on my part, but I don't remember anything contradicting it.. (And that would put Jade accessing Bec power with her god tiering in a very different light wouldn't it ?)

How so?

(Yeah but so would bec Noir, BecJadesprite or current godtier BecJade, so how come they can talk ? Possibly they have more 'control' over their voices or does green sun power get diluted in successive prototyping and god tiering ?)

Most likely because they are sentiant to begin with, mentality-wise Bec was not much more then a god-powered bag of pure instinct.

[irenicObserver]

I just realized that Dirk and Roxy live in Jane and Jake's future, just like pre-scratch. FG powers should not interfere with ability to speak in any way, First Tier prototyping's don't really change much in a Sprite's weird way of talking.

[AgentPaper]

Does anyone remember where the whole "troll empire conquering their enemies" part was discussed? I'd like to look it over again.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the trolls really were the only species in their universe, and when they were talking about conquering other planets, they were really talking about conquering other planets in other universes, such as has happened here.

Another possibility is that the trolls occupied many worlds as a race, but weren't all completely united, and the trollian empire was attacking and taking control of planets from other troll empires. That seems like the reasonable answer, though, so it's almost certainly not true.

[irenicObserver]

I'm blindly posting this link and this link, as I can't look at it ATM. Let me know if it's anywhere around when he starts explaining to Arasia Ancestor.

What the Troll Empire does is the Condesce greets a new planet, feigning friendship before her fleet comes and rips it to shreds. She's like a harbinger of destruction like that.

If what you are saying is correct then it is especially terrible what the game does, as it makes an entire universe populated only by a single species simply to wipe it out and start over.

[Draconi Redfir]

it was mentioned early into hivebent i believe probably around Karkat's introduction.

First Tier prototyping's don't really change much in a Sprite's weird way of talking.

Momsprite and Dragonsprite anybody? They spoke perfectly and were only prototyped once.

I believe Kernalsprites are innately silent before they enter the game, but once they enter the game and split into two kernels and a sprite, then the sprite proper can speak fine no matter what prototyping they are in.

[Oracle_Hunter]

Oookay, this Intermission is shaping up to be the weirdest one yet.

[irenicObserver]

I believe Kernelsprites are incomprehensible before they enter the game, but once they enter the game and split into two kernels and a sprite, then the sprite proper can speak fine no matter what prototyping they are in.

Fixed that for you.

Oookay, this Intermission is shaping up to be the bestest one yet.

That one too.

[Barefoot Monkey]

Awesome. The intermission is a shout-out to this fanart.

[RebelRogue]

[JadedDM]

He's already here!

It's not like that's a thing that ever stopped being true.

[Tectonic Robot]

Yes Yes Yes Lord English Is Finally doing Things Hooray Oh My Gosh Look At That Staff Spazzing Out I'm Totally Not Obsessed

[Draconi Redfir]

to be fair it IS in a hussie self-insert moment, so i'm a little suspicious as to how much of an impact it would ACTUALLY have.

[Androgeus]

to be fair it IS in a hussie self-insert moment, so i'm a little suspicious as to how much of an impact it would ACTUALLY have.

Lord English will kill Hussie and the story will end due to lack of narrator

[Draconi Redfir]

Lord English will kill Hussie and the story will end due to lack of narrator

pfff puh-leaze, hussie is the author, he can give himself ten times the power of english if he wanted to.

[Oracle_Hunter]

pfff puh-leaze, hussie is the author, he can give himself ten times the power of english if he wanted to.

Oddly enough, this very situation has already been addressed

[Derjuin]

@ Update: It should be illegal for karkats to be that funny. This is probably the hardest I've laughed since halfway through Act 5 Act 1.

[Tectonic Robot]

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I think this is my reaction to the latest update, hehehe.

[SlyGuyMcFly]

OH KARKAT, YOU ARE SUCH A FUNNY GUY. I HAVE MISSED YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH YOURSELF. why does this forum automatically down-size allcaps, anyway?