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2012-05-11, 11:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures V: THIS IS STUPID
The game isn't an antagonist at all then? What's its goal or motivation? The town is just the place where bad stuff happens. It's also been claimed that it's been possessed by someone's soul, so....
How do we know that? All we've seen so far is that English sets stuff up so that he is summoned, which has the side-effect (if you want to call it that) of screwing everyone else over.If you want a OotS style Touhou avatar, send me a request.
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2012-05-11, 11:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures V: THIS IS STUPID
i'm not an expert on it, but watch Yatzee's silent hill reveiws on the escapist. You don't need a thinking mind, a plan, or an evil modivaition to be an antagonist, you really just need the power to make the protagonists suffer.
Annother example would be the entire flipping planet in the 2012 movie.
How do we know that? All we've seen so far is that English sets stuff up so that he is summoned, which has the side-effect (if you want to call it that) of screwing everyone else over.Avy by Thormag
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2012-05-11, 11:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures V: THIS IS STUPID
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2012-05-11, 12:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures V: THIS IS STUPID
The game is necessary for reproduction. Technically all our planet is is a speck of dust in the grand scheme of things.
Silent hill attracted murderess and psychopaths where their insanity created the world.
It was by no means a nice place, but It wasn't the core antagonist. Its a physical representation of the villains innards.
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2012-05-11, 12:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures V: THIS IS STUPID
True, but being an antagonist requires that the antagonist opposes the protagonists (these people from Gez's fix) or is an obstacle to be overcome in some fashion. While you can point to the dersites as an example, the game is not an antagonist because I can point to the prospits, the kernal sprites, and the magical-sciency item creation stuff and say that the game is a protagonist helping out the main characters.
Therefore, I have to conclude that the game is neither a protagonist nor an antagonist, but simply the medium (har har) that everything happens in.
2012 was a stupid movie, and the Earth there was still not in an overgrown video game that was also trying to help the people out at the same time.
Where the heck do you think doc scratch came from? or the kids and the trolls for that matter?
None of this is relevant however, because they aren't English, who is not from the game.If you want a OotS style Touhou avatar, send me a request.
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2012-05-11, 12:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-05-11, 02:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures V: THIS IS STUPID
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2012-05-11, 02:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-05-11, 02:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures V: THIS IS STUPID
Hark! An avatar drawn by Kate Beaton!
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2012-05-11, 09:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures V: THIS IS STUPID
So, my school has an open mic coming up, and I've taken the opportunity to get 4 friends, dress ourselves up as the Midnight Crew (and Snowman) and sing the song.
I'm Slick right now, but it's changed multiple times, so I wouldn't go by that.Fiberoptic Elflord avatar by Guest#1!
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2012-05-11, 10:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-05-12, 01:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures V: THIS IS STUPID
One, look at my definition. Active opposition to the characters; Sburb and Silent Hill is just the setting where the bad happen, neither are conscious to do this, neither can be discerned nor claimed to have a specific goal in causing suffering for the Player, it just happens, basically a natural order; on my next point, the antagonists can be determined to be Derse(and potentially the horrorterrors by association) and anyone working for Lord English, logical conclusion there. Two, Lord English is not my favorite anything, just because he's your unfavorite does not make him my anything because you are invested in hating him.
I know you were asked this before but I wanna hear it again: why are you so invested in marginalizing any possibility Lord English had a hand in any conflict, when we know for an irrefutable fact his agents have on his orders? What is Lord English to you? I know you are tired of fans making theories and conjectures but I'm not doing that, I'm merely stating that we know for a fact that at least half the antagonistic characters can be traced to LE's machinations.Last edited by irenicObserver; 2012-05-12 at 02:02 AM.
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2012-05-12, 04:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Baisically i am tired with the entire fandoms freaking obsession with him, no small thing can happen now without somebody shouting IT WAS BECAUSE OF LORD ENGLISH! right into my ear.
Dave's sword broke? ENGLISH DID IT!
John blinked? ENGLISH DID IT!
Some guy who just happened to be in the same room as that one guy who worked for english that one ti-IT WAS BECAUSE OF MOTHER F**ING ENGLISH YOU MORON!Avy by Thormag
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2012-05-12, 06:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Hark! An avatar drawn by Kate Beaton!
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2012-05-12, 06:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-05-12, 06:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-05-12, 11:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures V: THIS IS STUPID
That sucks and all, but it's not something that's happening here, so there's no reason for you to take it out on us. That just means you're the one coming across as the annoying fan. (or anti-fan, as it were)
You don't need to love English, but it' be nice if we could have a conversation about English without you doing an acrobatic pirouette off the handle.5e Homebrew: Death Knight (Class), Kensai (Monk Subclass)Excellent avatar by Elder Tsofu.
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2012-05-12, 12:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-05-12, 04:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures V: THIS IS STUPID
Okay did I do that to you? Can you name the people that did that to you? Because if you can't that makes it your problem not ours that you are being attacked by people we do not know nor agree with. In the same vein are you being attacked by same people making those outrageous theories? That's their beef with you not ours. What we are saying is very much reasonable.
You are calmly and sensibly stating Lord English isn't important, not saying you don't like him. Everything you said infers you do not like him but also explicitly states he's not important and that he must be my favorite for some reason I'm getting the sense you are lumping us in with the crazies, which is kind of offensive and really makes it your responses the problem.
Look, I am not saying Lord English is reponsible for everything, get your facts straight, your heart off your sleeve and listen to what I am telling you. The things his agents have done are his fault, plain, simple, logical and sensible.Last edited by irenicObserver; 2012-05-12 at 04:37 PM.
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2012-05-12, 04:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures V: THIS IS STUPID
Anyway, my new theory is that Aranea is lying.
That pre-scratch alternia was just as chaotic as the new one.
Her explanation just functions on a on paper only level.
Unless their society works on a hive mind level (Which I don't think they do) Only the smallest amount of logic breaks the idea of a utopia world that has blood castes and relationships based on hate.
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2012-05-12, 05:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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The same could be said of A2's society, which indeed was shown not to work for humans in B2, but worked nonetheless with trolls because aliens sure are weird!.
Also, I like this explanation posted on another forum:
Originally Posted by Bongo BillHark! An avatar drawn by Kate Beaton!
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2012-05-12, 05:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures V: THIS IS STUPID
Again: It would need a hive mind/ lots of mind control to work.
Or really good councilors.
I get more power (That lower bloods can't even compete with), a longer lifespan (Which I can't achieve), and more responsibility (Which not everybody wants) just by being being born differently.
The blood castes still exist. Im not sure what would be different at all.
A2 works because it was manipulated to be by Scratch. He mind screwed them so much that murder became a social norm.
A1 just doesn't seem to be different at all. Im not sure how it would work out.
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2012-05-12, 06:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures V: THIS IS STUPID
It works because they are trolls, not humans. Trolls are different from humans on a fundamental level. I can't explain to you why it works because I'm human too. A troll could try to explain it to us but it would end up sounding ridiculous and nonsensical because we're different on a fundamental level.
Fact is it works for trolls, and that's really all there is to it unless we're told otherwise.5e Homebrew: Death Knight (Class), Kensai (Monk Subclass)Excellent avatar by Elder Tsofu.
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2012-05-12, 08:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures V: THIS IS STUPID
Well, I finally got around to finishing my old project; Beat Mesa and The Scratch.
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The Scratch in progress
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2012-05-13, 12:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures V: THIS IS STUPID
Thats not how fiction works. There are some parts of fiction driven by things that have no explanation (such as the unavoidable Sburb chess war), but if something is this radical it needs at least a basic explanation.
Like ants. They don't have a order "Just because their ants". There is a reason. And as a human I understand it anyway.
And on the recent update:
Whadda ya know, EXACTLY what im saying. And this is very high up on the system. This could be very damaging.
So there IS no reason why this works except for maybe peer pressure and pride.
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2012-05-13, 01:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures V: THIS IS STUPID
Pre-scratch, Feferi is in charge and the civilization is basically happy. Meenah is set to inherit but can't stand the way it all works.
Post-scratch, Meenah is in charge and the civilization is basically horrible. Feferi is set to inherit but can't stand the way it all works.
Makes sense to me.
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2012-05-13, 01:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Meenah doesnt WANT to inherit.
Thats very different.
Thier social order is left without a leader for thousands of years till she dies
Worse still if a aggressive person like her decides to become the empress.
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2012-05-13, 03:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures V: THIS IS STUPID
I don't see why this is more radical than, well, just about everything else in the comic. The way the medium works, the classes, the timelines, etc. Do you really find all of those easier to believe than an alien society having a radically different social structure than humans?
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2012-05-13, 03:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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The medium is different. Its a gigantic thing based off of paradoxes and crazy logic. Its stylistic. Part of it is how the creatures living in the medium fight the war just "Because". They are created for this crazy game thats based around creating a crazy universe.
Just because somethings are like that doesn't mean everything falls under this.
Yes, Its easier for me to accept the medium (Because its its own type of universe with its own types of rules. Sort of like alice in wonderland) then it is for me to accept the social order and the love system (That takes place in a universe with the same rules as our own).
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2012-05-13, 05:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures V: THIS IS STUPID
I don't really see the problem with how the two different versions of Alternia work.
Even the fact that the blood caste system stuck around makes sense, since blood tends to play an important role in how powerful you'll be.
In the "Nice" version, it's clearly a society built on the idea that the Strong protect the Weak.
In the "Mean" version, Scratch pushed them to build a society where the Strong oppress the Weak.
Even the fact that Hate romance apparently still exist isn't that big of a deal. Living in a nicer place doesn't exactly mean you can't hate people. It's not like hate is an emotion reserved only for those who are murderous scumbags.