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Thread: "Who was the old guy, anyway?"
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2012-01-22, 03:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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"Who was the old guy, anyway?"
Redcloak clearly implies that he was more important than just a janitor. But who is he? I don't think he can be a character we've seen before, but if that's the case why is he important? Could he be the polymorphed spy*, whom Redcloak wanted to interrogate?**
*or do we already know what he looks like?
**or does polymorph end when the subject dies? I don't have my books with me
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2012-01-22, 03:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Who was the old guy, anyway?"
We saw the polymorphed spy - he's (implicitly) the goblin raising an eyebrow in the third panel of 825, and looks indistinguishable from your generic hobgoblin mook.
That said, it sounds like there probably was something odd about the old goblin.
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2012-01-22, 03:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Who was the old guy, anyway?"
I thought the joke was that Redcloak didn't even known whether he was a janitor or not. Thus, he's a "something," i.e. he's insignificant to Redcloak.
And we saw the elves' spy in panel 3 of #825. Different clothes and no beard.
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2012-01-22, 03:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Who was the old guy, anyway?"
He looked like Jirix (did I spell it right?). Can't remember if he's already dead though. Too late past bedtime to look it up.
Edit: Nope. Just looked it up. Thought Jirix had a beard.Last edited by Ninjadeadbeard; 2012-01-22 at 03:53 AM.
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2012-01-22, 03:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Who was the old guy, anyway?"
"Best na ta challenge that Delusion" - Durkon in #674
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2012-01-22, 03:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-01-22, 05:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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If there were still a crag pairing(sp?) thread, I'd quess that they would go wild with that something.
"Best na ta challenge that Delusion" - Durkon in #674
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Cultist avatar made by Darwin.
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I have started a fantasy webseries about a trans woman wanting to become a paladin:
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2012-01-22, 06:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Who was the old guy, anyway?"
Exactly what I thought. The overalls are kind of odd...I'm sure they're significant somehow but I don't know how. Maybe he was just posing as a janitor?
Crack pairing. My understanding is it's supposed to be...um...referring to a certain non-board-appropriate topic.Last edited by Flame of Anor; 2012-01-22 at 06:21 AM.
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2012-01-22, 06:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-01-22, 06:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Who was the old guy, anyway?"
The general here had a similar beard, but already white and with a slightly different style.
I suppose that this guy was "something" like a janitor, but more along the lines of "trusted personal servant".
I expect Redcloak to raise him since he was really trustworthy and gave his life to protect the ward. If Reddie doesn't raise him, this means that the janitor wasn't really important and we could safely forget about him.
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2012-01-22, 07:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-01-22, 07:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Who was the old guy, anyway?"
Honestly, given the context that the 'old guy' had the passkeys to Redcloak's wards and was drawn with the apron- it seemed to me that he was rendered to emulate the Keymaker from the Matrix Reloaded. It seemed a pretty geeky enough reference for Rich and not something to read too deeply into. :-)
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2012-01-22, 11:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-01-22, 11:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Who was the old guy, anyway?"
He was a trusted guard. Redcloak didn't want to tip his hand too early. At least not until Tsukiko revealed she'd deduced everything.
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2012-01-22, 11:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Who was the old guy, anyway?"
I'm thinking that
Spoiler
the old guy is his brother right-eye, polymorphed
1) to be unrecognizable to Xykon or
2) to not have to look at his zombie body.
We never saw right-eye outside of SoD, so maybe this is him.
I know it is farfetched but I wondered if it could be true.
I'm not certain if this is possible with the polymorph rules.
Or that if he is polymorphed, Xykon or Tsukiko could see through the polymorph.
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2012-01-22, 11:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Who was the old guy, anyway?"
Im thinking thats epileptic tree level speculation.
Also, polymorf would be completely unnececary when a simple regenerate would be enough.thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2012-01-22, 11:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Who was the old guy, anyway?"
It's not necessarily definitive, and yes, I see Redcloak saying "Something", but I will point out that the one person who always has the keys to every private office is, in fact, the janitor.
Of course, since that's the straightforward answer, and Rich hasn't revealed anything yet, I assume that the guy is some other plot-essential person.
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2012-01-22, 12:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-01-22, 01:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-01-22, 01:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Who was the old guy, anyway?"
I don't think it's him. I think if it were, Redcloak would be more upset at his death at the hands of Tsukiko, instead of chatting frustratedly with her. Besides, Redcloak doesn't need him for Gobbotopia to work, since Xykon would have no reason to destroy it. Also, he and Redcloak are still too weak to overcome Xykon in almost any circumstance.
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2012-01-22, 01:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Who was the old guy, anyway?"
As awesome as that theory is,
Spoilerfirstly, there's that scene where Redcloak (recently reduced to one eye) is looking in the mirror and sees the face of Righteye. This wouldn't make sense if he had already resurrected him, and it wouldn't be nearly as dramatic if he was about to resurrect him.
Secondly, I think Righteye being killed (again) would be accompanied by more angsting on Redcloak's part, or at least some emotion other than just a short-lived feeling of surprise.
On the other hand, I do believe there's something more to the old guy. I'll wait and see .
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2012-01-22, 03:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Who was the old guy, anyway?"
It was obviously,
Spoilerthe Monster in the Dark.
Not sure how nobody figured that out yet.
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2012-01-22, 04:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Who was the old guy, anyway?"
It's hard to say for sure, but I believe he's the guy from comic #451. At least, the guy in question has a white beard and was a personal servant of RC. Yes, the clothes are totally different, but it's not like they can't change them. We haven't seen too many hobgoblins with white beards hanging around RC, either, though I realize it doesn't prove anything.
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2012-01-22, 05:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Who was the old guy, anyway?"
That's RC's general. He was killed here.
Edit: More accurately, he was confirmed to be dead here.
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2012-01-22, 05:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Who was the old guy, anyway?"
I believe he is a smith of some sort, considering the apron.
Why would I assume this? Well, it's clear that Redcloak is currently trying to hide the phylactery. But he wouldn't be able to keep this up indefinitely, and there really is no benefit in keeping it hidden from Xykon. It would prevent them from heading off to the next Gate, and as soon as Xykon found out about it, he would turn Redcloak into a smear on the ground. If hiding that phylactery from Xykon is such a stupid decision, something I cannot believe Redcloak would make, why does he do it?
Answer: he's not planning on hiding it forever. He can get someone to make alterations to the phylactery and make it look like his back-up holy symbol, and alter the holy symbol to look like the phylactery. Now, he can show the "phylactery" to Xykon and say he just recovered it after destroying the Resistance that Tsukiko failed to keep in check. Considering what happened to the phylactery when it was lost, Xykon will probably insist on keeping it on his person, forcing Redcloak to use his "backup" for spell-casting. Now, Redcloak is safe to secretly remove most of the phylactery's protective abjurations, allowing him to destroy it if Xykon gets too out-of-hand.
So, that goblin was probably the smith he would require to make the alterations. After the phylactery was recovered, he probably swung by the smith, gave him the keys to his office, and told him to meet him there as soon as he came back with the phylactery. (Granted, this also means he will probably assassinate the smith after the alterations are done, as he mentioned with his polymorphed spy.)
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2012-01-22, 05:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-01-22, 08:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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It's been a bit, GitP. If you're reading this, you're either digging through old stuff, or I've posted for the first time in forever.
If you want to stay in touch, reach out to me on twitter (same username).
The best answer is always to ask your DM.
Unless you're the DM, in which case you should talk to your players.
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2012-01-22, 08:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-01-22, 09:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by The Dark Fiddler; 2012-01-23 at 06:51 AM.
It's been a bit, GitP. If you're reading this, you're either digging through old stuff, or I've posted for the first time in forever.
If you want to stay in touch, reach out to me on twitter (same username).
The best answer is always to ask your DM.
Unless you're the DM, in which case you should talk to your players.
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2012-01-22, 09:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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