Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 60
  1. - Top - End - #1
    Troll in the Playground
     
    OrcBarbarianGuy

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Ponyville
    Gender
    Male

    Default Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Dippable levels in Pathfinder
    Post #1: Base Classes
    Post #2: Prestige Classes
    Post #3: Dip Helping Feats & Common Abilities & Sources

    For the sake of this guide, a "dip" constitutes 1-to-3 levels taken in a class for the sake of gaining abilities. Abilities gained at level 4 of a class will only be listed if they are super-awesome-mega-worth-it!
    Abilities gained at level 5 are right out.
    Only 'generally' useful abilities will be mentioned. For example, many people dip Fighter for the Feats. No one dips Druid just to get an Animal Companion.


    The following is a list of abilities/attributes/things/stuff that will NOT be listed, under the assumption that many classes have equivalents:
    HP
    Bab
    Saves
    Skills
    Skill Points
    Weapon/Armor Proficiencies
    An exception will be made for any Exotic Weapon prof., Heavy Armor, and Tower Shields
    Small bonuses will mostly be ignored, such as "+1 to Will saves vs. Fear". Only larger/widely useful bonuses will be listed.
    1/day (or less) use abilities will be ignored, unless they are very useful.

    The format is as follows:

    [Class]
    *spoiler tag*
    1) [notable ability gained with 1 level]
    3) [notable ability gained with 3 levels]
    #S) [notable ability gained with # levels of (Special), Bloodline/Mystery/Order/etc..]
    #A) [notable ability gained with # levels of (Archetype) of class]

    [ability] > [briefly explains what it does]

    Alchemist
    Spoiler
    Show
    2/3 "arcane" Caster (Int)
    1) Brew Potion feat, Throw Anything feat, Mutagen
    2) Poison Use, Poison Resistance, Discovery (many are non-level dependent)
    3) Swift Alchemy (for 'move action poison')
    1A) Trapfinding (Crypt Breaker), Sneak Attack (Vivisectionist)
    2A) Alchemical Weapon > adding chemicals other than Poison to a weapon (Grenadier)
    Perfect Recall > Int bonus twice on Knowledge checks (Mindchemist)
    Trapfinding (Trap Breaker)
    Bonus feat > use Discovery to get a feat instead (various)
    3A) Disease Resistance (Internal Alchemist)
    Acid Resist 5 (Oenopion Researcher)


    Antipaladin
    The Antipaladin is an alternate base class to the Paladin, it is similar enough that for this guides purposes it will be treated as an Archetype of the Paladin, and can be found in the Paladin section.

    Barbarian
    Spoiler
    Show

    1) Fast Movement, Rage limited Rounds, but useful at times
    2) Uncanny Dodge
    1A) Heavy Armor prof (Armored Hulk)
    Skilled Thrower > Thrown weapon Range Increment +10ft. (Hurler)
    Fast Rider > Mount speed +10ft. (Mounted Fury)
    Favored Terrain (True Primitive)
    2A) Armored Swiftness > +5ft. move speed in Med/Heavy Armor(Armored Hulk)
    DR 1/- (Invulnerable Rager)
    Cinder Sight > Can see through Fire/Fog/Smoke without penalty (Burn Rider)
    Evasion (Drunken Rager)
    Tolerance > 2nd save on various conditions (Scarred Rager)
    Wild Fighting > 1 extra Attack/Round w/ -2 Attack, -4 AC (Wild Rager)


    Bard
    Spoiler
    Show
    2/3 Spontaneous Arcane Caster (Cha), Whip prof.
    Bardic Performance is not considered 'dip worthy' for reasons similar to why Rage is not.
    1) Bardic Knowledge
    2) Versatile Performance, Well-Versed
    1A) Arcane Strike feat (Arcane Duelist)
    Dervish Dance feat (Dawnflower Dervish)
    Scribe Scroll (Geisha)
    Improved Counterspell feat (Magician)
    Master of Deception > Trapfinding (Sandman)
    2A) Arcane Insight > Trapfinding (Detective)
    Combat Casting feat (Arcane Duelist)
    Clever Explorer > Trapfinding, Uncanny Dodge (Archaeologist)
    Magic Lore > Trapfinding (Archivist)
    Canny Foe > +2 on CMB/CMD for any one Combat Maneuver (Daredevil)
    Channel Energy (Arcane Healer)
    Haunted Eyes > +4 to variety of save, Secrets of the Grave > mind-affecting spells work on Undead (Dirge Bard)
    Teamwork Feat (Negotiator)


    Cavalier
    Spoiler
    Show
    Heavy Armor Prof.
    1) Bonus Teamwork feat
    3) Cavalier's Charge
    4) Expert Trainer > Not that great in and of itself, but it allows you to take the Horse Master feat and count your character level towards your Mount feature
    2S) By My Honor > +2 Morale bonus to a save (Order of the Sword)
    Braggart > Dazzling Display feat, +2 to-hit vs. Demoralized (Order of the Cockatrice)
    Adaptive Strike > Catch Off-Guard feat, 1/Combat can Swift Action to treat an Opponent as Flat-Footed to you for the round (Order of the Land)
    Mobile Wall > Step Up bonus feat, adds penalty to Tumble through his threatened area (Order of the Scales)
    Prepared for Journey > Favored Terrain, plus long-range movement benefits (Order of the Guard)
    Resolute > converts 1 point of Lethal damage taken on every attack into Nonlethal damage (Order of the Shield)
    Vandal > Improved Sunder bonus feat, add half your Cavalier level to Sunder Damage (Order of the Beast)
    1A) In or Out of the Saddle > Mounted Combat Bonus feat, move at full speed in Medium armor (Emissary)
    Bonus feat, short list (Gendarme)
    Introduction > On 1st Diplomacy check, can roll twice and take best (Herald Squire)
    Firearm prof. Gunsmithing feat, Free gun (Musketeer)
    Firearm and Whip Prof, Gunsmithing feat, Amateur Gunslinger, Free Gun (Dune Drifter)
    Monstrous Mount feat, Hippocampus only (Wave Rider)
    Net and Whip Prof. (Huntmaster)
    2A) Fleet of Foot > +10ft. movement speed, does NOT stack with Barbarian (Herald Squire)
    3A) Careful Aim > reduces penalties on ranged attacks (Luring Cavalier)
    Favored Terrain Desert, shares bonus with mount (Horselord)
    Rapid Reload feat (Dune Drifter)

    Samurai
    Katana, Naginata, Wakizashi prof.
    1) Resolve > 3 options, remove status conditon, 'staggered' at <0 HP, Roll twice take best on Fort or Will save
    3) Weapon Expertise > Quick Draw with chosen weapon, +2 on Critical Confirmation, level stacks with Fighter levels


    Cleric
    Spoiler
    Show
    Full Prepared Divine Caster (Wis)
    Various Exotic Weapon prof. can be had with the right Deity
    1) Channel Energy, Domain times 2
    1A) Breadth of Knowledge > Bardic Knowledge (Cloistered Cleric)
    Bonus Feat (Crusader)
    Master Tactician > Always act in Suprise round (Divine Strategist)
    Inspire Courage, as Bard (Evangelist)
    Familiar (only if allowed to take Animal Domain)
    Skill Points 4+INT (Roaming Exorcist)
    3A) Merciful Healing > Remove status effects with Channel (Merciful Healer)


    Domains
    Spoiler
    Show
    Cleric, 2 Domains, some Archetypes only get 1
    Druid 1 Domain, limited options based on Archetype
    Inquisitor 1 Domain
    Paladin 4 (Sacred Servant)
    Hellknight 1 Domain, depending on depending on choice.

    Domains with non-power/non-spell bonuses:
    Animal: class skill: Knowledge (Nature)
    >Feather (Animal Sub-domain): class skill: Fly, when you cast a spell that grants Flight, your maneuverability increases by 1 step.
    Darkness: Blind-Fight feat
    Glory: Channel Energy save DC +2
    Knowledge: class skills: All Knowledge skills
    Protection: +1 all Saves
    Rune: Scribe Scroll feat
    Travel: +10ft. movement
    Trickery: class skills: Bluff, Disguise, Stealth
    Void: +2 to Saves vs. Mind-affecting

    Animal/Nature Domains (Typically Druid only, ask your DM)
    Various: A 'matching' Familiar (Eagle Domain > Hawk, Frog Domain > Toad, etc...)
    Cave: Darkvision 60ft. (1hr. 3+Wis/day yourself, 1min. 3+Wis/day ally)
    Plains: Increased duration/speed on Summon spells, if summoning certain creatures
    Wolf: Improved Trip feat

    Inquisitions: (can be taken by any class with compatible Deity)
    Black Powder: Firearm prof, Gunsmithing feat
    Conversion: Wis instead of Cha on Bluff/Diplomacy/Intimidate
    Heresy: Wis instead of Cha on Bluff/Intimidate
    Oblivion: 10ft. Aura, you/ally add your Wis to Stabilization checks
    Persistence: Step Up feat
    Spellkiller: Disruptive feat
    Torture: +2 on Intimidate checks


    Druid
    Spoiler
    Show
    Full Prepared Divine Caster (Wis)
    1) Domain (limited choices)
    2) Woodland Stride
    3) Trackless Step
    1A) Domain, different options (Various)
    Familiar (Blight Druid)
    2A) Totem Transformation > various temporary benefits (Various)
    3A) Favored Terrain (World Walker)
    Swim Speed (Aquatic Druid)
    +10ft. movement (Plains Druid)
    Electricity Resist 5, can give temporarily to another as a Standard Actoin (Tempest Druid)


    Fighter
    Spoiler
    Show
    Heavy Armor and Tower Shield prof.
    1) Bonus Combat Feat
    2) Bonus Combat Feat
    3) Armor Training
    1A) Mounted Combat feat, and Skill Focus (Ride) feat (Dragoon)
    Performance Weapon Mastery feat, can choose Combat or Performance as bonus feats (Gladiator)
    Can choose Combat/Skill Focus/Teamwork as bonus feats (Tactician)
    Monk Weapon Prof, Improved Unarmed Strike feat, choice of Style feat (Unarmed Fighter)
    Endurance feat, Diehard feat (Unbreakable)
    Whip Prof. (Vengeful Hunter)
    2A) Hawkeye > +5ft. Bow range increment (Archer)
    Cleave feat, does NOT take AC penalty (Corsair)
    Combat Expertise feat (Lore Warden)
    Pole Fighting > allows a Reach weapon to hit adjacent (Polearm Master)
    3A) Trick Shot > Combat maneuvers with a Bow (Archer)
    Close Combatant > +1-to-hit, +3 damage with 'close combat' (Brawler)
    Catch Off-Guard feat (Cad)
    Deadshot > +1/2 Dex to damage with Crossbow (Crossbowman)
    Maneuver Master > +2 CMB and CMD (Lore Warden)
    Phalanx Fighting > Can use Spear/Polearms 1-handed w/shield (Phalanx Soldier)
    Armored Charger > Armor Training for mounts (Roughrider)
    Tower Shield Training > Reduced Armor penalties when using a Tower Shield (Tower Shield Specialist)
    Trench Warfare > DEX-to-Damage with a single type of Firearm (Trench Fighter)
    Overhand Chop > single attack with a 2-hand weapon gets x2 Str to damage (Two-Handed Fighter)
    Weapon Training (Weapon Master)


    Gunslinger
    Spoiler
    Show
    This is an odd class. If you plan on using Firearms, then 1-5 levels are extremely helpful. If you don't plan on using Firearms, then the entire class is basically pointless.
    Proficient with all Firearms
    1)Gunsmithing feat, Grit pool, Quick Clear deed, free Gun
    3) Gunslinger Initiative > +2 Initiative
    1A) Rapid Reload (Musket) feat (Mustket Master)
    CHA-based Grit, Focused Aim > Cha to damage with Firearms (Mysterious Stranger)
    INT-based Grit (Siege Gunner)
    3A) Fast Musket (Musket Master)
    Scattershot > Scatter-attack cone radius increases by 5ft.


    Inquisitor
    Spoiler
    Show
    2/3 Spontaneous Divine Caster (Wis)
    1) Domain, Judgement (while the bonus is low, it is VERY flexible), Monster Lore > Int+Wis on creature related Knowledge checks
    2) Wis to initiative, Detect Alignment
    3) Bonus Teamwork feat, Solo Tactics > Allies treated as having your Teamwork feats
    1A) Lore of Escape > Wis to Bluff/Stealth checks (Heretic)
    Guileful Lore > Wis to Bluff/Diplomacy checks (Infiltrator)
    Strong Willed > roll twice, take best on Mind-affecting Will saves (Spellbreaker)
    Spell Sage > Wis to Spellcraft checks (Witch Hunter)
    2A) Detect Magic (Iconoclast)
    3A) Foil Casting > threatened casters have +2DC on Concentration checks (Spellbreaker)


    Magus
    Spoiler
    Show
    2/3 Prepared Arcane Caster (Int)
    *Note: Spell Combat and Spellstrike specify a spell "from the Magus spell list". This either means any spell that a Magus could conceivably cast (abusable!), OR any spell that YOU could cast as a Magus (not worth dipping!). Check with your DM*
    1) Spell Combat > Two-Weapon fighting with Spells, Arcane Pool (1/2 level +Int)
    2) Spellstrike > Touch spells delivered through weapon
    3) Magus Arcana, most are of little use in dipping, but 2 stand out: Arcane Accuracy > Int to attack rolls for 1 round, Close Range > Ranged Touch spells can be delivered as Melee Touch spells (only if Spellstrike works out-of-class)
    1A) 1 Exotic Weapon prof., Weapon Focus with same weapon, Canny Defense > Int-to-AC (lesser of Int/Kensai level) (Kensai)
    Sorcerous Shield > Tower Shield prof. (Skirnir)
    1 Exotic Weapon prof. (limited), Combat Expertise feat, Dodge feat (Spire Defender)
    Quarterstaff Master feat (Staff Magus)


    Monk
    Spoiler
    Show
    Some Exotic Weapon prof.
    *Note: If there is a non-specific "Bonus Feat" listed for level 1, assume that there is also a Bonus Feat for level 2*
    1) Wis to AC when unarmored, Improved Unarmed Strike feat, Stunning Fist feat, Bonus Feat (from List, Ignore Requirements), Flurry of Blows
    2) Evasion, Bonus Feat (list, no-reqs)
    3) +10ft. movement when unarmored
    1A) Bonus Feat, different list, no-reqs (Flowing Monk)
    Punishing Kick feat (Hungry Ghost)
    Bonus Feat, larger list, no-reqs, Flurry of Maneuvers > make extra Combat Maneuvers on a Full Attack (Maneuver Master)
    Bonus Feat, Style Feat or Elemental Fist, limited reqs, Fuse Style > 2 styles at once (Master of Many Styles)
    Bonus Feat, larger list, no-reqs (Monk of the Empty Hand)
    Elemental Fist feat (Monk of the Four Winds)
    Touch of Serenity feat (Monk of the Lotus)
    Inspire Courage > as Bard, using Wis for Rounds (Sensei)
    Bonus Feat, larger list, Devoted Guardian > Always act in surprise round (Sohei)
    Improved Grapple feat (Tetori)
    Perfect Strike feat (Weapon Adept)
    Flurry of Bows, Bonus Feat, different list, no-reqs, Perfect Strike feat (Zen Archer)
    2A) Unbalancing Counter > AoO's you make can cause target to be Flat-footed for 1 round (Flowing Monk)
    Toughness feat, +1 Natural Armor (Monk of the Sacred Mountain)
    Insightful Strike > Wis instead of Str/Dex to hit on Unarmed/Monk-weapon attacks/Maneuvers (Sensei)
    Trap Intuition > Automatically gets a Perception Check to locate traps within 10ft. (Terra-Cotta Monk)
    Stunning Pin feat (Tetori)
    Weapon Focus w/Monk weapon (Weapon Adept)
    Weapon Focus w/Bow (Zen Archer)
    3A) Ki Pool, +2 all Knowledge checks (Ki Mystic)
    Wis instead of Dex on ranged attacks, Point Blank Master feat (Zen Archer)
    Inspire Competence > as Bard, use Wis for Rounds (Sensei)


    Ninja
    The Ninja is an alternate base class to the Rogue, it is similar enough that for this guides purposes it will be treated as an Archetype of the Rogue, and can be found in the Rogue section.

    Oracle
    Spoiler
    Show
    Full Spontaneous Divine Caster
    1) Revelation, Oracle's Curse
    1S) All all Knowledges as Class Skills (Ancestor or Lore Mysteries)
    Various Skills as Class Skills (all other Mysteries)
    3) Revelation
    1A) Misfortune Revelation > force any creature to reroll a d20 (Dual-Cursed)
    Gain Linguistics and all Knowledges as Class Skills (Enlightened Philosopher)
    Tinkering > Trapfinding (Seeker)
    3A) Planar Resistance Revelation > choice of energy Resist 10 (Planar Oracle)

    Oracle Curses
    Spoiler
    Show
    Oracle Curses scale at the rate of 1 level per Oracle level, and 1/2 per non-Oracle level. This means you can eventually get the level 10 bonuses with just a single level of Oracle.

    Couded Vision: Can't see past 30ft, but you have Darkvision
    5th: Range increases to 60ft.
    10th: Gain Blindsense out to 30ft.

    Deaf: You are Deaf, and all spells you cast automatically benefit from the Silent Spell feat. (note: Silent Spell applies to ALL spells cast from ANY class)
    5th: +3 bonus on (non-hearing) Perception checks, the Initiative Penalty for being deaf is reduced to -2
    10th: You gain the Scent ability, penalty on Initiative is removed

    Lame: Your land speed is reduced, and your speed is never reduced due to being encumbered
    5th: Immune to Fatigued condition
    10th: Speed is never reduced due to Armor

    Legalistic: You become Sickened if you break your word/promises. 1/day you gain a +4 Morale Bonus on any roll related to fulfilling a promise
    5th: +3 Competence to Diplomacy, Intimidate, and Sense Motive when talking to someone one-on-one
    10th: Additional Saving throws vs. Mind-Affecting effects

    Wasting: -4 penalty to all Charisma skills (except Intimidate), +4 Competence bonus on Saves vs. Disease
    5th: Immune to the Sickened condition
    10th: Immune to Disease

    Wolfscarred: 1d4 Bite attack in exchange for 20% chance of Verbal Spell Failure (slot is NOT expended, but the action is)
    5th: Bite increases to 1d6
    10th: Bite increases to 1d8

    Wrecker: Held objects gain the Broken condition for as long as you hold them. Disable Device becomes a Class Skill, and you can destroy a non-magic Trap as a Move action.
    5th: (based on Oracle level, thus cruddy)
    10th: Attacks made vs. Object and Constructs bypass ALL Damage Reduction (except Epic)

    Oracle Revelations
    Spoiler
    Show

    Various Mysteries > +4 AC for 1 hour/Oracle level
    Dark Tapestry > Cloak of Darkness > Same as above, but +2 Stealth checks

    Battle > Skill at Arms > all Martial Weapon & Heavy Armor prof.
    Battle > War Sight > Roll twice for Initiative, take best
    Battle > Weapon Mastery > Weapon Focus feat
    Bones > Near Death > +2 Saves vs. Poison, Disease, Mind-affecting
    Flame > Cinder Dance > +10ft. movement
    Flame > Molten Skin > Fire Resist 5
    Heavens > Guiding Star > Cha added to any Wis checks, only at night
    Life > Channel > Channel Energy (positive only)
    Life > Healing Hands > +4 Heal checks, additional Heal related bonuses
    Lore > Focused Trance > after 1d6 rounds in a 'trance', you can gain +20 on an Int based skill check (Cha/day)
    Lore > Lore Keeper > Cha instead of Int on Knowledge checks
    Lore > Sidestep Secret > Cha instead of Dex to AC and Ref Saves
    Lunar > Eye of the Moon > Darkvision 60ft.
    Lunar > Prophetic Armor > Cha instead of Dex to AC and Ref Saves
    Metal > Armor Mastery > no movement penalty in Medium armor
    Metal > Dance of Blades > +10ft. movement
    Metal > Skill at Arms > all Martial Weapon & Heavy Armor prof.
    Nature > Friend to Animals > Animals in 30ft. gain your Cha to Saves
    Nature > Nature's Whispers > Cha instead of Dex to AC and CMD
    Nature > Spirit of Nature > Automatically Stabilize if in a Natural area
    Spellscar > Eldritch Resistance > Acid/Cold/Electric/Fire/Sonic Resist 2 (all of them)
    Spellscar > Mystic Null > +2 Save vs. Spells and Spell-likes
    Stone > Acid Skin > Acid Resist 5
    Stone > Rock Throwing > various bonuses on Throwing Rocks
    Stone > Stone Stability > +4 CMD vs. Bull Rush and Trip
    Time > Temporal Celerity > Roll twice for Initiative, take best
    Time > Time Flicker > 20% concealment for 1 minute/Oracle level
    Waves > Fluid Nature > +4 CMD vs. Bull Rush, Drag, Grapple, Reposition, and Trip. Opponents have -4 on Critical Confirmation
    Waves > Fluid Travel > Walk on liquid 1 hour/Oracle level
    Waves > Icy Skin > Cold Resist 5
    Wind > Invisibility > Invisibility 1 minute/Oracle level
    Wind > Spark Skin > Electricity Resist 5
    Wood > Wood Bond > +1 to hit with wooden weapons


    (Anti)Paladin
    Spoiler
    Show
    1/3 Prepared Divine Caster (Cha), Heavy Armor prof.
    1) Detect Evil, Smite Evil
    2) Divine Grace
    3) Aura of Courage, Divine Health, Mercy
    1A) Precise Shot feat (Divine Hunter)
    Firearm Prof. Amateur Gunslinger feat, Gunsmithing feat, free Gun (Holy Gun)
    Detect Undead (Oath Against Undeath)
    Confident Defense > Adds CHA to AC (restrictions apply, Iroran Paladin)
    Improved Unarmed Strike (Iroran Paladin)
    Personal Trial > Smite-Any (Iroran Paladin)
    2A) Smiting Shot deed (Holy Gun)
    Holy Reach > spend Smite Evil to gain +5ft. Reach for 1 minute (Oath Against Savagery)
    First into Battle > spend a use of Smite Evil or Lay on Hands to act in Surprise round. +Cha to Initiative (Sword of Valor)
    3A) Acid/Cold/Electricity Resist 5 (Empyreal Knight)
    Tactical Acumen > Teamwork feat, Battlefield Presence > Grant Allies use of one of your Teamwork feats w/NO duration (Holy Tactician)
    Ghost Touch Aura > Armor gains Ghost Touch (Oath Against Undeath)
    Skilled Rider > ignore Armor Penalty on Ride checks, Mount gains your Divine Grace bonus (Shining Knight)

    Antipaladin
    From levels 1-to-3 Antipaladin abilities are virtually the same as a normal Paladin, but they are 'evil mirror' abilities.
    1) Detect Good, Smite Good > both work as you'd expect
    2) Unholy Resilience > Cha to Saves, Touch of Corruption > Negative energy Lay-on-Hands
    3) Aura of Cowardice > nearby opponents get -4 on Fear Saves, and lose Immune Fear, Plague Bringer > Immune to Disease effects, still a carrier, Cruelty > inflicts status changes instead of removing


    Ranger
    Spoiler
    Show
    1/3 Prepared Divine Caster (Wis)
    1) Favored Enemy
    2) Bonus Feat (from list, mostly Combat, no-reqs)
    3) Endurance feat, Favored Terrain
    1A) Freebooter's Bane > all nearby allies get +1 Attack/Damage against 1 target of choice, can change target with Move Action (Freebooter)
    Trapfinding (Trapper)
    Favored Terrain (Warden)
    2A) Amateur Gunslinger feat, Gunslinger Deed (Trophy Hunter)
    Uncanny Dodge (Wild Stalker)
    3A) Scout the Area > "always knows where to find the nearest expert or spellcaster who can provide a particular service" (Groom)
    Adaptation > various bonuses, lasts 10min/ranger level (Infiltrator)
    Trapfinding (Urban Ranger)


    Rogue
    Spoiler
    Show
    Hand Crossbow prof.
    1) Sneak Attack, Trapfinding
    2) Evasion, Rogue Talent
    1A) Familiar (Carnivalist)
    Follow Up > Roll twice on Diplomacy, take best (Investigator)
    Sea Legs feat (Pirate)
    Poison Use (Poisoner)
    Bravado's Blade > sacrifice Sneak Attack dice to make a free Intimidate check (Rake)
    Accuracy > Half Range Increment to-hit penalties (Sniper)
    Frightening > Using Intimidate increases the duration of Shaken by 1 round, option to change it to Frightened for 1 round if Shaken duration would be 4+ (Thug)
    2A) Familiar gains Rogue's Sneak Attack dice (Carnivalist)
    Sapping > +4 to Perception and Disable Device for finding/disabling traps (note: archetype loses Trapfinding, this is VERY much a Dip ability -Sapper)
    3A) Deadly Range > Ranged Sneak Attack range increases (Sniper)
    Poison Use (Spy)
    4A) Scout's Charge > guaranteed Sneak Attack when making a Charge (Scout)

    Ninja
    Some Exotic Weapon prof.
    Rogue Talents are virtually the same as Ninja Tricks. This is largely due to the case that each can freely choose from the other's list.
    1A) Poison Use (Ninja)
    2A) Ki Pool (Ninja)


    Samurai
    The Samurai is an alternate base class to the Cavalier, it is similar enough that for this guides purposes it will be treated as an Archetype of the Cavalier, and can be found in the Cavalier section.

    Sorcerer
    Spoiler
    Show
    Full Spontaneous Arcane caster
    1) Eschew Materials feat, Bloodline
    1A) Tinkering > Trapfinding (Seeker)
    Familiar (Tattooed Sorcerer)


    Sorcerer Bloodlines
    Spoiler
    Show
    1S) Draconic > +1 damage per die on Damage Spells (that match your energy type)
    1S) Impossible > Constructs are susceptible to Mind-Affecting spells, and Constructs are treated as Living creatures for your spells.
    1S) Orc > Light Sensitivity, Darkvision 60ft. (or +30ft.), +1 damage per die on Damage Spells
    Arcane > Familiar
    1S) Pestilence > Vermin are susceptible to Mind-Affecting spells
    1S) Undead > Undead are susceptible to Mind-Affecting spells
    1AS) Empyreal > Wis instead of Cha for Sorc abilities
    Sage > Int instead of Cha for Sorc abiliites

    3S) Aberant > +5ft. on Melee Touch attacks
    Abyssal > Electricity Resist 5, +2 Save vs. Poison
    Accursed > +2 Save vs. various
    Aquatic > Swim Speed 30ft.
    Boreal > Cold Resist 5
    Celestial > Acid/Cold Resist 5
    Djinni > Electricity Resist 10
    Draconic > Natural Armor +1, choice of Energy Resist 5
    Efreeti > Fire Resist 10
    Elemental > choice of Energy Resist 10
    Infernal > Resist Fire 5, +2 Save vs. Poison
    Marid > Cold Resist 10
    Orc > +4 Save vs. Fear, +1 Natural Armor
    Pestilence > Immune Sickened, +4 Save vs. Nausea/Disease
    Protean > Resist Acid 5, +2 Save vs. various
    Shadow > Darkvision 30ft.
    Shaitan > Resist Acid 10
    Starsoul > Low Light Vision, Cold/Fire Resist 5
    Stormborn > Electricity/Sonic Resist 5
    Undead > Cold Resist 5, DR 5/- Nonleathal
    Verdant > +2 Saves vs. Poison/Sleep, 'Sustenance' effect


    Summoner
    Spoiler
    Show
    2/3 Spontaneous Arcane Caster (Cha)
    1) Summon Monster I, 3+Cha/Day, minutes instead of Round duration
    3) Summon Monster II
    1A) Summon Nature's Ally I (First Worlder)
    Summon Monster I 5+Cha/day (Master Summoner)
    Fused Eidolon > with the limited levels this is mainly useful for Skill boosts, and General Survival (HP/AC) (Synthesist)
    2A) Augment Summoning feat (Master Summoner)
    3A) Summon Nature's Ally II (First Worlder)
    Summon Monster II 5+Cha/day (Master Summoner)


    Witch
    Spoiler
    Show
    Full Prepared Arcane Caster (Int)
    1) Hex, Familiar
    2) Hex
    1A) Gain a 1d4 Primary 'Hair' Natural Attack (White-Haired Witch)
    Not many abilities are useful outside of the Witch class. Although a variety of effects can be had with the Hexes.


    Wizard
    Spoiler
    Show
    Full Prepared Arcane Caster (Int)
    1) Arcane Bond, Scribe Scroll feat

    1S) Abjuration > choice of energy Resist 5
    Divination > Always act in Surprise Round
    Transmutation > +1 to Str, Dex, or Con
    Earth > +2 CMD
    Fire > Fire Resist 5
    Metal > +2 AC for 10min./wizard level, 3+Int/Day
    Wood > +1 to Dex, Con, or Wis

    1A) Scroll Blade, Scroll Shield > Use Scrolls as weapon/shield (Scrollmaster)
    Siege Engineer feat (Siege Mage)
    Firearm prof., Gunsmithing feat, Arcane Gun > can shoot spells out of a Firearm gaining the Guns +X Bonus (Spellslinger)
    3S) Universalist > Arcanamirium Crafter > Bonus Feat (Item Creation or Metamagic)

    *) Arcane Discovery (taken as a Feat) > Arcane Builder > can craft in 75% of normal time, +4 Spellcraft Checks
    Last edited by grarrrg; 2014-07-14 at 09:15 PM.

  2. - Top - End - #2
    Troll in the Playground
     
    OrcBarbarianGuy

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Ponyville
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Prestige Classes


    Text in parenthesis after the PrC name is a quick summary. For example, "Arcane Archer (Archer/Mage hybrid)". "Mage" will be used to refer to Arcane, "Priest" will be used to refer to Divine. Also lists Basic stats for easy reference (HD/Skills/Bab/Casting (if any)).
    Each entry will start with the total number of levels in the PrC, and the earliest level you could enter the class (barring shenanigans of course).
    Reqs: has notable Requirements for entry. Minor requirements and "flavor" requirements will be ignored.
    Abilities will follow the same format as the Base Class section.

    Agent of the Grave (Necromancer) d8, 4S, 1/2 Bab, 4/5 Any Caster
    Spoiler
    Show
    5 level PrC, earliest Divine at 6, Arcane at 8 (+1 Spontaneous)
    Reqs: 3rd level Divine spells OR 4th level Arcane spells, must be Evil
    1) Cha instead of Con to HP
    2) Can use 'mind-affecting' spells on Undead


    Aldori Swordlord (Dueling/Intimidate fighter) d10, 2S, Full Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:4 Feats, 1 Skill at 5 ranks, 3 skills at 3 ranks


    Arcane Archer (Archer/Mage hybrid) d10, 4S, Full Bab, 7/10 Arcane
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 8
    Reqs: 6 Bab, 1st level Arcane spells
    1) Enhance Arrows > all non-magical Arrows you shoot become +1
    2) Imbue Arrow > attach 'area' spells to a fired Arrow
    3) Enhance Arrows > all non-magical Arrows you shoot gain your choice of Flaming/Frost/Shock


    Arclord of Nex (Arcane Crafter?) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Arcane
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:3 Feats, 4 Skills at 5 Ranks, 3rd level Casting, Arcane School class feature


    Arcane Trickster (Rogue/Mage hybrid) d6, 4S, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Arcane
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 7 (+1 Spontaneous)
    Reqs: 2nd level Arcane spells, 2d6 Sneak attack, non-Lawful
    1) Ranged Legerdemain > Disable Device at 30ft.
    2) Sneak Attack


    Aspis Agent (Trap/Dungeon something...) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:Whip Prof., Trap Sense, 7 Skills at 5 ranks
    1) Trapfinding
    2) Agency Secrets > Bluster > No penalty to Intimidate vs. Larger opponents and Larger opponents do not get a bonus to Intimidate vs. you


    Assassin (Rogue that likes killing people) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: Must be Evil
    1) Sneak Attack, Death Attack, Poison Use
    2) Uncanny Dodge
    3) Sneak Attack


    Balanced Scale of Abadar (Divine, Treasure Obsessed) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, 5/6 Divine
    Spoiler
    Show
    6 level PrC, earliest 6 (+1 Spontaneous)
    Reqs: Must worship Abadar, 3rd level Divine spells
    1) Bypass Ward > Temporary Trapfinding


    Battle Herald (Cavalier/Bard hybrid) d10, 4S, Full Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: Challenge, and Inspire Courage abilities, 3 Skills at 5
    1) Voice of Authority > stacks with Cavalier for Tactician ability, Inspiring Command > stacks with Bard for Inspire Courage, can give other benefits


    Bellflower Tiller (Team-focus rogue) d8, 6S, 3/4 Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:Chaotic Good, 2 Teamwork feats, Sneak Attack 2d6, 3 Skills at 5 ranks


    Blackfire Adept () d6, 4S, 1/2 Bab, 7/10 Any Caster
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:Non-Good, 2 feats, 2 Skills at 5 ranks, be able to cast Summon Monster III


    Bloatmage (Blood Mage) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Arcane
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6 (+1 Spontaneous)
    Reqs: 3rd level Arcane spells, Bloatmage Initiate feat
    1) Blood Pool > spend Blood Points instead of Spell Slots


    Brightness Seeker (Seeks Enlightenment) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    5 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: Elf, Iron Will feat
    2) Channel Past Incarnation > various bonuses (Swim/Flight/Darkvision/etc...) can be changed each day, Tranquility > +10 Save vs. Fear


    Brother of the Seal (Monk) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:Lawful, Imp. Unarmed Strike, Stunning Fist, Flurry of Blows, 1 Skill 5 ranks
    1+) Stacks with Monk for Flurry of Blows, Stunning Fist, and Unarmed Damage
    2) Trapfinding


    Champion of Irori (Monk/Paladin hybrid) d8, 4S, Full Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:Lawful Good, Worship Irori, Smite Evil, Still Mind, 1 Skill 5 ranks
    1) Stacks with Monk for AC, Flurry of Blows, Stunning Fist, and Unarmed Damage, Stacks with Paladin for Smite Evil/Chaos damage, can use Smite Evil to Smite Chaos instead
    2) Ki Pool > can spend to Lay on Hands or Smite Evil, Stacks with Paladin for Lay on Hands power, Pursuit of Knowledge > Bardic Knowledge


    Chevalier (Knight) d10, 4S, Full Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    3 level PrC, earliest 7
    Reqs: 6 Bab, must be Good, must succeed in a difficult challenge
    1) Aura of Courage > Immune Fear, nearby allies gain +4 Save vs. Fear
    2) Controlled Charge > No penalty to AC when Charging
    3) Poison Immunity


    Cyphermage (Knowledge/Scroll Mage) d6, 4S, 1/2 Bab, Full Arcane
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: Cypher Magic feat, 3 skills at 5, Arcane caster
    All levels) Cypher Lore > various bonuses, most related to enhancing Spell Scrolls


    Daggermark Poisoner (Poison-focused rogue) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:4 Skills at 5 ranks, Poison Use ability


    Daivrat (Genie Friend) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, 9/10 Any Caster
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 8
    Reqs: Spell Focus feat, 2 skills at 7, 1 skill at 5, must NOT be Evil, 3rd level spells
    2) Spell Fetch > use 1 spell per day that you normally couldn't cast (there is a spell level limit, and it uses a higher level slot, but you can prepare/cast it as many times as you want/are able)


    Dawnflower Dissident () d8, 2S, 3/4 Bab, 10/10 Divine
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:Worship Sarenrae, Dervish Dance feat, 4 Skills at 5 ranks, be able to cast Daylight as Divine


    Demoniac (Demon Worshiper) d8, 2S, 3/4 Bab, 9/10 Any Caster (does not "need" casting to enter)
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 8
    Reqs: 3 skills at 7, 2 Feats, must be Chaotic Evil
    1) Demonic Mark > cast 1 spell/day without spending a slot
    2) Demonic Boon > earlier access to Demonic Obedience (feat) Boon bonuses (1st level spell 3/day, OR 2nd level spell 2/day, OR 3rd level spell 1/day)


    Diabolist (Devil Worshiper) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, Full Casting (does not "need" casting to enter)
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest with UMD at 6, Divine at 8, Arcane at 10 (+1 Spontaneous)
    Reqs: 2 skills at 5, 1 skill at 3, must be within 1 step of Lawful Evil, must have Conjured a Devil (typically 4th level Divine, or 5th level Arcane)
    2) Channel Hellfire > alter spells to deal Hellfire damage (1/2 fire, 1/2 'unholy') instead of normal type, can do this Cha/day
    3) Augment Summoning feat


    Divine Scion (Deity's Chosen One) d8, 2S, 3/4 Bab, Full Divine
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: Iron Will, Weapon Focus feats, 3 skills at 5, any Divine Caster
    1) Can take (Greater) Weapon Focus/Specialization without levels in Fighter
    3) Domain Specialization > various Spell-like abilities, and either +4 to a Skill, or +2 to a Save


    Dragon Disciple (Dragon Mage) d12, 2S, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Arcane
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: 1 skill at 5, Spontaneous Arcane Caster > must either have or take the Sorcerer's Draconic Bloodline
    1) Blood of Dragons > stacks with Sorcerer levels for Bloodline abilities, +1 Natural Armor
    2) +2 Str, Bloodline Feat
    4) +2 Str, +1 Natural Armor


    Duelist (Light Weapon/Mobility Warrior) d10, 4S, Full Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 7
    Reqs: Bab 6, 3 feats
    1) Int-to-AC (limited), Precise Strike > +1 Precision damage each Duelist level
    2) +2 Initiative, Parry > use your attacks to attempt to block attacks
    3) Enhanced Mobility > +4 AC when moving out of Threatened spaces


    Eldritch Knight (Fighter/Mage hybrid) d10, 2S, Full Bab, 9/10 Arcane
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 7
    Reqs: 3rd level Arcane spells, all Martial Weapon prof.
    1) Bonus Combat feat, levels stack to qualify for Fighter/Caster feats


    Envoy of Balance (Neutral Caster) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, Full Any Caster
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: Neutral Alignment, 2 Skills at 5 Ranks, one of three Feats, 3rd level spells, Neutral deity if Cleric
    2) Planar Parity> Summoned creatures can partially ignore Protection from (alignment) spells, and/or Neutral Summons gain a template.
    Spiritual Equilibrium> levels stack with Cleric for Channeling, can Spontaneously cast Cure and/or Inflict Spells


    Evangelist (Deity Worshipper) d8, 6S, 3/4 Bab, Full Stacking with any other class for class features!
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: Must worship a Deity, Deific Obedience feat, any one of the following: 5 Bab, 1 skill at 5 ranks, 3rd level spells
    1) Skilled > Any 2 skills become class skills
    2) Aligned Class > Choose any 1 class, this _completely_ stacks with it for _everything_
    3) Divine Boon


    Exalted (High Holy Man) d8, 2S, 3/4 Bab, 10/10 Divine
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: Deific Obedience feat, Skill Focus (Know: Religion) feat, worship a deity, 2 Skills at 5 ranks, 3rd level Divine spells
    1) Divine Brand > Permanent Holy Symbol Tattoo, Scholar > Add any one Knowledge skill as a Class skill
    2) +2 Sacred/Profane to Fort Saves and Stabilization checks
    3) Divine Boon


    Field Agent (Wayfinder Rogue) d8, 6S, 3/4 Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: Skill Focus (any), 1 skill at 5, must own a Wayfinder
    1) Choice of 'Field Agent Training', notable options: Eidetic Memory > Bardic Knowledge, Greater Casting > +1 Caster, Rogue Talent, Skill Specialization > Any skill become Class Skill, gets +1/2 class level bonus, Trapfinding
    Choice of Wayfinder Upgrade
    2) Bonus Feat (Skill Focus or Teamwork)
    3) Field Agent Training


    Genie Binder (uh...Caster who...Binds...Genies....) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, Full Casting
    Spoiler
    Show
    5 level PrC, earliest 12 (+1 Spontaneous)
    Reqs: 3 feats, 1 skill at 11, cast Planar Ally/Binding, can NOT be good
    1) Lesser Elemental Seal > can create a Seal that lasts 1 hour and provides a Touched creature a bonus. You can make [Genie Binder level]+Cha Seals/day, only 1 Seal can be active at a time (there are other uses, but the Creature one is the most Dip-worthy)
    Seal of Air > touched creature has Electricity Resist 10 and Feather fall
    2) Seal of Earth > touched creature has Acid Resist 10 and Barkskin
    3) Seal of Fire > touched creature has Fire Resist 10 and weapons gain Flaming
    4) Seal of Water > touched creature has Cold Resist 10 and Water Breathing


    Golden Legionnaire () d10, 2S, Full Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:Any Good, Heavy Armor prof. 2 Skills at 5 ranks 5 Bab
    2) Stand Still bonus feat, +1/2 Class level to CMB when using Stand Still


    Gray Gardener (Inquititor PrC // Rogue/Priest hybrid) d8, 6S, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Divine
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:Combat Reflexes, 2 Skills at 5, 4 Skills at 2, 2nd level Divine
    2) Harsh Judgment > similar to Inquisitor Judgment, and Stacks for certain bonuses


    Green Faith Acolyte (Druid-ish PrC) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab, 10/10 Divine
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:Partial Neutral, 3 Skills at 5 ranks, 3rd level Divine, Green Faith Acolyte feat


    Halfling Opportunist (Rogue-like Risk Taker) d8, 6S, 3/4 Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    5 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: Defensive Combat Training feat, 2 skills at 5, must be a Halfling
    1) Exploitative Maneuver > make a Combat maneuver check to lessen an opponents roll to gain an equal bonus on your next roll, Trap Spotter > automatic chance to find traps within 10ft.
    2) +1 all saves, Sneak Attack, Trap Spotter range +10ft.


    Harrower (Deck of Cards Divination Caster) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, Full Any Caster
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6 (+1 Spontaneous)
    Reqs: 2 Skills at 5, cast 3rd level spells, Harrowed feat, must NOT be True Neutral
    1) Blessing of the Harrow > all Allies gain +1 [random] for 24 Hours, bonus can be to Attack rolls, AC, Damage, Skill checks, Saving Throws, or Caster level/Concentration


    Hellknight (Anti-Chaos Paladin) d10, 2S, Full Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: 5 Bab, 1 Skill 5, Heavy Armor prof., must be Lawful, Must slay a Devil (?) with HD greater than yours (pretty sure this should be "Demon")
    1) Detect Chaos, Smite Chaos
    2) Hellknight Armor > Reduced penalties when wearing Hellknight Plate armor
    3) Discipline > Various, +2 Will Save on limited effects
    3S) Disipline of Fearsomeness > Any creature you Intimidate becomes Frightened instead of Shaken


    Hellknight Signifier (Warrior/Caster hybrid) d8, 2S, 3/4 Bab, 10/10 Any Casting
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:Lawful, Medium Armor Prof., Arcane Armor Training OR Warrior Priest feat, 2 Skills at 5 ranks, 3rd level spells
    1) Stacks with divine caster for various Domain/Mystery bonuses
    3) Armor Check Penalty reduced by 1, Arcane Spell Failure reduced by 5%


    Holy Vindicator (Paladin minus Alignment) d10, 2S, Full Bab, 3/4 Divine Casting
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6 as Paladin, 7 otherwise
    Reqs: 5 bab, 1 skill at 5, Channel Energy, Alignment/Elemental Channel feat, 1st level Divine spells
    1) stacks with any class for Channel Energy dice
    2) Stigmata > +1 bonus [various], Immune to Bleed (from other sources)
    3) Faith Healing > Self-cast Cure spells heal Self as if Empowered


    Horizon Walker (Terrain Master/Traveler) d10, 6S, Full Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 7
    Reqs: 1 skill at 6, Endurance feat
    1) Favored Terrain
    2) Favored Terrain, Terrain Mastery > various effects
    3) Terrain Dominance > various effects


    Inheritor's Crusader (Prestige Paladin) d10, 2S, Full Bab, Full Casting (Cleric or Paladin only)
    Spoiler
    Show
    3 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: Worship Iomedae, Iron Will, 2 skills at 5, Channel Energy, must be Lawful Good
    1) Aura of Great Courage > same as Aura of Courage, stacks to increase radius
    2) Destroyer of Tyranny > Channel/Lay on Hands grants additional Saving throw vs. Charm or Compulsion
    3) Sword Against Injustice > more Flavor than generally useful, but interesting


    Inner Sea Pirate (would you believe....Pirate?) ?8d?, 6S, 3/4 Bab (HD not listed, assuming 'rogue' HD)
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: 3 skills at 5, must NOT be Lawful
    1) Sneak Attack
    ?2&3?) Pirate Trick > similar to Rogue Talents
    (text vs. table issue. Table says Pirate trick at 2 & 3, text says Pirate Trick at 4/7/10, given that the class has NO FEATURES other than Sneak Attack and Pirate Tricks, I'm going with the Table on this one)


    Justicar (Embodiment of the Law) d8, 4S, Full Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    3 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: Persuasive feat, 1 skill 5, must be Lawful
    2) Sure Shot > Cha-to-hit and +X damage with Crossbow, can use X/day where X is Justicar level
    3) Oathmark > more Flavor than generally useful, but interesting


    Knight of Ozem (Anti-Undead knight) d10, 4S, Full Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:Worship Iomedae, Heavy Armor+Shield Prof., 1 Skill at 5 Ranks, Longsword Prof.
    3) Favored Enemy > Undead only


    Lantern Bearer (Anti-Darkness) d10, 4S, Full Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:Good, Elf/Half-Elf, 5 Bab, 2 Skills at 5 Ranks, Longbow and 1 other Martial prof.
    1) Spell-Like Abilities
    2) Bitter Armament > Metal Weapons count as Cold Iron for overcoming DR, Favored Enemy > Limited choices


    Liberator (Anti-Slavery Warrior) d10, 2S, Full Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: 3 feats, 2 skills at 3, must NOT be Lawful
    1) Poison Resist 2, To the Rescue > grant allies bonus on to-hit and saves vs. Fear
    3) Bonus feat (short list), Silent Sunder > Sunder/breaking stuff is done quieter


    Lion Blade (Bardic Assassin in Plain Sight) d8, 6S, 3/4 Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 7
    Reqs: Inspired Competence, 2d6 Sneak Attack, 2 skills at 5, 3 skills at 3, 3 feats, must be partially Neutral
    1) Master of Disguise > reduced Disguise penalties, Move with Crowd > treat crowds as normal terrain for movement
    2) +1d6 Sneak Attack, Slowing Strike > deal less Sneak Attack damage to reduce targets speed
    3) Hide in Plain Sight


    Living Monolith (Stoneblessed Warrior) d8, 2S, 3/4 Bab* 9/10 Any Casting*
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: 5 Bab, Endurance and Iron Will feats
    1) Soul Stone > +2 various Saves, can Enlarge Person (self only) as a Swift action 3/day (caster level=character level)
    Ib Stone/Ka Stone > If Ib Stone chosen, then all levels except the first count for casting, if Ka Stone chosen then Full Bab while Enlarged, and gain Toughness feat
    2) Stone Blood > automatically stabilizes when below 0 hp, immune to bleed effects (damage and ability damage)
    3) Fortified Flesh > DR 1/- and 10% immunity to Critical Hits

    *Originally printed with Full Bab and no spellcasting option


    Low Templar (Crusader with Looser Morals) d10, 2S, Full Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: Mounted Combat and Weapon Focus feats, 2 skills at 5
    1) Flag of Convenience > reduced Leadership penalties, faster Follower acquisition, and some minor skill check bonuses
    2) Dirty Fighting > no Improvised Weapon penalties, +2 on Combat Maneuver checks, can inflict Status condition instead of Critical damage
    3) Sneak Attack


    Loremaster (Knowledge/Divination Caster) d6, 4S, 1/2 Bab, Full Casting
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 8
    Reqs: 2 skills at 7, Skill Focus (Knowledge) and 3 Metamagic/Item Creation feats, 3rd level spells, must know 7 different Divination spells
    1) Secret > various, based on Loremaster Level + Int mod
    2) Lore > same as Bardic Knowledge
    3) Secret > various


    Magaambyan Arcanist (Arch-Wizard) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Arcane
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:Good, 2 feats, 3 Skills at 5 ranks, 3rd level prepared spells
    1-10) Halcyon Magic > Add 1 Druid spell per Class level to your Spell List, it must be at least 2 spell levels less than your highest spell level, but is otherwise added without any 'level adjustment penalty'
    2) Virtuous Spells > Good descriptor spells are cast at +1 Caster level, Evil spells require two spell slots
    3) Lasting Goodness > Good descriptor spells with a duration are extended a number of rounds equal to Class level


    Mammoth Rider (Rider of Big Creature) d12, 4S, Full Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 10
    Reqs:6 Bab, 2 Skills at 9 ranks, 1 at 5, Animal Companion or Mount with effective level of 6
    1) Gigantic Steed > Animal Companion becomes Huge (STR/CON/Size bonuses)


    Master Chymist (Mutagen Focused Alchemist) d10, 2S, Full Bab, 7/10 Extracts
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 8
    Reqs: 3rd level Extracts, Feral/Infuse Mutagen Discovery
    Normally this is where I'd put the bonuses. But this has got to be one of the LEAST accessible PrC's ever. The ONLY way to enter is through 7 levels of Alchemist. If you've invested in Alchemist, take a look, if not, you aren't getting anything here.


    Master Spy (Deception Rogue) d8, 6S, 3/4 Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 8
    Reqs: 2 feats, 2 skills at 7, 2 skills at 5
    1) Sneak Attack, Art of Deception > adds Master Spy level to Bluff/Disguise/Sense Motive checks, extra bonuses to Disguise
    2) Mask Alignment > detect as an Alignment of choice


    Mystery Cultist (Divine Worshiper) d8, 2S, 3/4 Bab, 9/10 Any Casting (does not need casting to enter)
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 8
    Reqs: Knowledge (Religion) at 7, Celestial Obedience feat, Good alignment, worship an Empyreal Lord
    2) Glorious Aura> Level=rounds/day gains a Sacred bonus to CHA, and can Frighten nearby creatures.
    3) Celestial Boon > you gain your deities First Boon


    Mystic Theurge (Arcane/Divine hybrid) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, Full Arcane AND Divine Casting
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 7
    Reqs: 2 skills at 3, 2nd level Arcane AND Divine casting
    1) Combined Spells > can prepare 1st level X spells in 2nd level Y slots
    3) Combined Spells > can prepare 2nd level X spells in 3rd level Y slots


    Nature Warden (Harmony with Nature) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Divine Casting
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 7 (6 with the right Archetypes)
    Reqs: +4 Bab, 4 skills at 5, Animal Companion, Favored Terrain, Wild Empathy, 2nd level Divine
    2) Mystic Harmony > AC bonus in Favored Terrains
    4) Silverclaw > Animal Companion, and Summon Nature's Ally creatures gain DR X/Silver, their attacks count as Silver for bypassing purposes


    Noble Scion (Aristocrat) d8, 6S, 3/4 Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:Noble Scion or Skill Focus feat, 1 Skill at 5 ranks, 3 Skills at 2 ranks, be a Noble
    1+) Affluent > gains 750*Class level in Gold each level
    2) Greater Leadership > Leadership feat, and Cohort may be up to 1 level lower


    Pain Taster (Pain Obsessed Warrior) d10, 2S, Full Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    5 level PrC, earliest 7
    Reqs: +6 Bab, 3 feats, Intimidate 5, DC 15 Fort OR DC 20 Will save or DIE
    1) +1 Con if entered by Will Save, Whip prof. can deal Lethal damage with Whips, Disciple of Pain > +2 bonus to Stat of choice
    2) DR 1/-, Cruelty > Sneak attack when using a Slashing weapon, +1d6 on every attack with a Whip
    3) Uncanny Dodge


    Pathfinder Chronicler (Explorer of Knowledge) d8, 8S, 3/4 Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: 2 skills 5, 1 skill 3
    1) Bardic Knowledge, Deep Pockets > can carry "unspecified items"
    3) Bardic Performance > stacks with similar (at Level -2), doesn't gain anything to 'perform' though?


    Pathfinder Delver (Adventure Seeker) d8, 8S, 3/4 Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: 2 skills at 5, 2 skills at 4
    1) Bardic Knowledge, Trapfinding
    2) Surefooted > no movement penalties on naturally Difficult Terrain
    3) Guardbreaker > gain Favored Enemy bonus vs. Constructs/Oozes/Undead equal to your Trap Sense bonus


    Pathfinder Savant (Magic Knowledge Seeker) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, 6/7 Any Casting
    Spoiler
    Show
    7 levl PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: 2 feats, 3 skills at 5, 2nd level spells
    1) Adept Activation/Master Scholar > can always take 10 on Use Magic Device/Spellcraft/Knowledge (Arcana) checks
    2) Esoteric Magic > add ANY 1 spell to your class list
    3) Esoteric Magic, Scroll Master > use your caster level when activating a Scroll


    Pit Fighter (Performance Combat Expert) d10, 2S, Full Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:Non-Lawful, Dazzling Display feat, 1 Skill at 5 ranks, 1 Skill at 3 ranks, Orc Ferocity OR Rage ability
    1) Poor Equipment > Swift action to ignore Broken condition of 1 item for duration of encounter, Showmanship > can treat any combat as if it were a Performance Combat


    Prophet of Kalistrade () d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab, Class Unique Casting (Cha-Based, max 4th level spells)
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:Lawful Neutral, 2 Skills at 5 ranks
    1) Auspicious Display > can wear Non-Magical jewelry to get AC/Save bonuses


    Purity Legion Enforcer (Anti-Divine Warrior) d10, 4S, Full Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: Lawful, Godless Healing feat, 1 skill at 5, 1 skill at 4, can not worship a deity, cannot cast Divine spells
    1) Aura Sense > Detect [alignment] at will, Nonbeliever > 1/2 class level to saves vs. Divine spells, must always Save vs. Divine
    2) Divine Detective > Detect Magic at will, various situational Skill bonuses
    3) Improved Godless Healing > +1/day use, +1d8 healing per use


    Rage Prophet (Barbarian/Oracle hybrid) d10, 4S, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Divine casting
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 7
    Reqs: +5 Bab, Moment of Clarity Rage power, Oracle's Curse feature, 1 skill at 5
    1) Savage Seer > level stacks with Barb/Oracle for Rage Power/Curse/Revelation power
    2) Raging Healer > can Cure self while Raging
    3) Indomitable Caster > add Con bonus to Concentration checks


    Razmiran Priest (Mage with Divine powers) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Arcane
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:Non-Good, False Casting feat, 2 Skills at 5 ranks, 3rd level Arcane


    Red Mantis Assassin (Rogue w/Minor Spells) d8, 6S, 3/4 Bab, Class Unique Casting (Cha-Based, max 4th level spells)
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: 4 feats, 3 skills at 5, must be Lawful Evil
    1) Sneak Attack, Weapon Specialization (Sawtooth Sabre)
    3) Red Shroud > X/day Class/Rounds gain Fast Healing X, X=Con Mod


    Riftwarden (Planar Protector) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Any Caster
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:Non-Evil, 2 Skills at 5 ranks, 2 feats, cast Magic Circle against Evil
    1) Planar Guide > Choice of Favored Enemy (Outsider Sub-type only), Favored Terrain (Non-Material plane), or Terrain Mastery (as Horizon Walker)


    Shadowdancer (Stealth/Sneaky Rogue) d8, 6S, 3/4 Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: 3 feats, 1 skill at 5
    1) Hide in Plain Sight
    2) Uncanny Dodge, Evasion
    3) Rogue Talent, Summon Shadow > Summon a Shadow based on your stats (same Bab/Saves, 1/2 your HP, etc...)


    Shackles Pirate (would you believe....Pirate?) d8, 8S, 3/4 Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: 2d6 Sneak Attack, 3 skills at 5, must NOT be Lawful
    1) Quick Appraise > does NOTHING
    3) Sneak Attack


    Shieldmarshal (Gunslinging Lawman) d10, 4S, Full Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:2 feat, 5 Skills at 5 ranks, Grit Pool, 2 Firearm Profs.
    1) Legal Judgment > functions similar to Inquisitor Judgments, but does NOT Stack
    2) Danger Sense > +1/2 Class Level to Initiative and can always act in the Surprise Round, Gunmarshal +1/2 level for learning Gunslinger Deeds


    Skyseeker () d10, 4S, Full Bab, 7/10 Divine
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:2 Skills at 5 ranks, Favored Enemy, 2nd level Divine spells, Dwarf Racial train OR Adopted Social Trait feat
    2) Rune-Carved Armor > Armor Bonus added to Touch-AC (limited)
    4) Dwarven Armor Training > Gain Heavy armor Prof. and can use Ranger abilities while wearing Heavy Armor


    Sleepless Detective (Detective) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:Alertness feat, 3 Skills at 5 ranks


    Souldrinker d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, 8/10 Any Casting (does not "need" casting to enter)
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: 2 skills 5 ranks, Worship one of the Four Horsemen, must be Neutral Evil
    2) Energy Drain > can make a Touch Attack to inflict a Negative Level and gain 5 temp HP, Soul Pool > various uses, need to use Energy Drain to use
    4) Lesser Oblivion > Immunities based on worshipped Horseman


    Spherewalker (Far Traveler, Caster) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab, Full Any Casting (does not "need" casting to enter)
    Spoiler
    Show
    5 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: must worship Desna, +5 bab, 2 feats
    1+) Spells > If entered with non-casting class(es), you still gain 1 spell slot each level
    2) Efficient Sleep > +4 Save vs. Sleep, only need 4 hours of sleep/day
    3) Dream Link > form a (semi-)Permanent Telepathic Bond


    Stalwart Defender (Defensive "Rager") d12, 2S, Full Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 8
    Reqs: +7 Bab, 3 feats
    1) +1 AC (Dodge Bonus), Defensive Stance > almost identical to Rage, but cannot move while active
    3) Uncanny Dodge


    Steel Falcon (Anti-Slavery Military) d10, 4S, Full Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    5 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: 2 skills at 5, 2 skills at 2, Iron Will, must be Good
    1) Heart of Freedom > +4 Save vs. Charm/Compulsion, Enemy of Slavers > +2 (attack/damage/skills) vs. Slavers


    Storm Kindler (Storm Caster) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Any Caster
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 7
    Reqs:Partial Neutral, worship Gozreh, Storm Lashed feat, 2 Skill at 6 ranks, 2nd level spells
    1) Resist Electicity and Sonic 5


    Student of War (Int/Knowledge Warrior) d10, 6S, Full Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: +5 Bab, 3 feats, 2 skills at 4
    1) Know Your Enemy > Make a Knowledge check to gain a selectable +1 bonus against that enemy
    2) Bonus Combat feat, Mind over Metal > when wearing armor/shield you can get Int-to-AC (instead of Dex)


    Tattooed Mystic (Tattoo Caster) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, 7/10 Any Caster
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:Varisian Tattoo feat, 2 Skills at 5 ranks, 2nd level spells


    Thuvian Alchemist (Arcane/Alchemical Priest) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, Full Arcane Casting or Extracts
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: Brew Potion feat, 4 skills at 5, 2nd level Arcane/Extracts
    1) Healing Solution > Full Round action to convert Spell Slots/Extract Slots into Cure Infusions
    2) Natural Discovery
    3) Bomb Advancement, Curative Enhancement (think Paladin Mercies)


    Ulfen Guard (Raging Bodyguard) d10, 4S, Full Bab
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs: 5 Bab, 1 skill at 5, 2 other minor skills, "Northern Human Descent"
    1) Rage, Guard Dedication > Various
    2) Guarded Thoughts > +5 to Save vs. Charm/Compulsion to attack 'chosen ally'
    3) Guard Dedication


    Umbral Court Agent (Darkness Caster) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Any Caster
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 8
    Reqs:Lawful Evil, Worship Zon-Kuthon, Deceitful feat, 2 Skills at 7 ranks, 1 Skill at 5 ranks, 2nd level spells
    1) Darkness Domain abilities, Tenebrous Spell feat, can apply the Tenebrous Spell feat without increasing spell level/casting time
    2) Darkvision 60ft. (or +30ft. to existing)


    Veiled Illusionist (Illusionist Caster) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Any Caster
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:Spell Focus (Illusion) feat, 2 Skills at 5 ranks, 2nd level spells, know at least 3 Illusion spells


    Winter Witch (Cold-focused Witch) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, 9/10 Witch casting
    Spoiler
    Show
    10 level PrC, earliest 6
    Reqs:2 Skills at 5 ranks, 3rd level spells, know 3+ spells with Cold descriptor, have a Patron, and the Ice Magic ability (i.e. must have Winter Witch archetype)
    1) Stacks with Witch for Familiar, and ALL Hex-related abilities
    3) Unnatural Cold > targets only use 1/2 of their Cold Resistance vs. your Cold damage spells
    Last edited by grarrrg; 2014-07-07 at 12:55 AM.

  3. - Top - End - #3
    Troll in the Playground
     
    OrcBarbarianGuy

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Ponyville
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Dip-Helper Feats
    These are feats that either make a dip more powerful, minimize losses for going outside your main class, or just require multiple classes to even qualify for the feat.
    Spoiler
    Show

    Boon Companion: You are counted as (up to) 4 levels higher for purposes of your Animal Companion/Familiar/Mount

    Channeling Scourge: Inquisitor levels count as Cleric levels for purposes of Channel Energy

    Crusader's Flurry: Treat Deity's Favored Weapon as a Monk weapon (you can Flurry with it)

    Defensive Combat Training: Use your HD instead of Bab for CMD (more useful if NOT using Fractional Bab)

    Dispelling Critical: Cast Dispel Magic as a Swift Action on a Critical attack

    Eldritch Heritage (Improved/Greater): Grants you Bloodline Abilities (without needing levels in Sorcerer)

    Fire Music: Can change Bard spells to deal Fire damage, and/or Summon Monsters with Fire Damage/Resist

    Monastic Legacy: Levels in Non-Monk count as 1/2 level of Monk for Unarmed Strike damage

    Shaping Focus: Counted as (up to) 4 levels higher for purposes of Druid Wildshape ability

    Shapeshifting Hunter: Druid/Ranger levels stack for Favored Enemy and Wildshape

    Theurgy: Sacrifice Arcane/Divine spell slot to gain a bonus when casting a Divine/Arcane spell


    Unarmed Strikes While not inherently requiring a Dip/Multi-class, most of them are vastly improved by it (i.e. Bab/lack thereof).

    Adder Strike: Add Poison to Unarmed Strikes
    Crusader's Fist: Add Lay On Hands/Touch of Corruption to Unarmed Strikes
    Dispelling Fist: Cast Dispel Magic as a Swift Action on Unarmed Strike
    Domain Strike: Add Domain power to Unarmed Strike
    Feral Combat Training: Treat Natural Attacks as Unarmed Strikes
    Hex Strike: Inflict a Hex with Unarmed Strike
    Knockout Artist: Deal extra damage when making a Nonlethal Unarmed Sneak Attack
    Nightmare Fist/Weaver/Striker: Combine Unarmed Strikes with spells for bonuses
    Revelation Strike: Add a Revelation to Unarmed Strike
    School Strike: Add Wizard School ability to Unarmed Strike
    Sorcerous Strike: Add Bloodline ability to Unarmed Strike



    Common Ability Quick Reference
    Bardic Knowledge (bonus on Knowledge checks, can use untrained Knowledges)
    Spoiler
    Show
    Bard 1
    Cleric 1A

    Champion of Irori
    Field Agent 1
    Loremaster 2
    Master Spy 3 (limited)
    Pathfinder Chronicler 1
    Pathfinder Delver 1


    Bonus Feats (fixed)
    Spoiler
    Show
    Alchemist 1, Brew Potion, Throw Anything
    Bard 1A, Arcane Strike, OR Scribe Scroll, OR Improved Counterspell, OR Dawnflower Dervish
    Bard 2A, Combat Casting
    Cavalier 1A, Mounted Combat
    Cavalier 1A, Firearm prof., Gunsmithing
    Fighter 1, 2, & 3A (see Fighter Section)
    Gunslinger 1, Firearm prof., Gunsmithing
    Gunslinger 1A, Rapid Reload (Mustket)
    Magus 1A, 1-Exotic Weapon prof. & Weapon Focus OR Tower Shield prof. OR 1 limited Exotic Weapon prof. & Combat Expertise & Dodge OR Quarterstaff Master
    Monk...see Monk section, too many to (want to) list them all
    Oracle 1A, Weapon Focus
    Paladin 1A, Precise Shot
    Paladin 1A, Firearm prof., Gunsmithing
    Paladin 1A, Improved Unarmed Strike
    Ranger 3, Endurance
    Ranger 2A, Firearm prof., Amateur Gunslinger
    Rogue 1A, Sea Legs
    Sorcerer 1, Eschew Materials
    Summoner 2A, Augment Summoning
    Wizard 1, Scribe Scroll
    Wizard 1A, Siege Engineer
    Wizard 1A, Firearm prof., Gunsmithing


    Bonus Feats (choice)
    Spoiler
    Show
    Alchemist 2A, short list(s) of various feats
    Bard 2, Teamwork Feat (Negotiator)
    Cavalier 1 Teamwork Feat
    Cavalier 1A, short list of Combat feats
    Cleric 1A, short list of Combat feats
    Fighter 1, 1A, 2, 2A, All Combat Feats, optional: Performance, Skill Focus, Teamwork (see Fighter Section)
    Inquisitor 3, Teamwork Feat
    Monk...again, see Monk section, too many to (want to) list them all
    Paladin 3A, Teamwork Feat
    Ranger 2, short list of Combat feats
    Rogue 2 (by way of Rogue Talent), various, mostly Combat
    Wizard 3S, Item Creation or Metamagic

    Field Agent 2, Skill Focus, or Teamwork
    Ulfen Guard 1, 3, Combat Feat


    Casting (PrC's that advance casting)
    Spoiler
    Show
    Arcane (sorted by minimum lost casting levels)
    Spoiler
    Show
    No Lost Casting
    *Arcane Trickster, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Casting (Sandman Archetype Bard only, otherwise +2 lost Casting)
    Arclord of Nex, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Casting
    Bloatmage, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Casting
    Cyphermage, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Casting
    Diabolist, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Casting
    Envoy of Balance, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Casting
    Genie Binder, 1/2 Bab, 5/5 Casting
    Harrower, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Casting
    Hellknight Signifier, 3/4 Bab, 10/10 Casting (must have Medium Armor Prof., if you would rather Dip than spend 2 feats, this drops to 1 Lost Casting)
    Loremaster, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Casting
    Magaambyan Arcanist, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Casting
    Spherewalker, 3/4 Bab, 5/5 Casting
    Thuvian Alchemist, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Casting
    Veiled Illusionist, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Casting

    1 Lost Casting (no Casting on 1st level of PrC)
    Agent of the Grave, 1/2 Bab, 4/5 Casting
    Arcane Archer, Full Bab, 7/10 Casting (if taken to level 4 or less)
    Blackfire Adept, 1/2 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if taken to level 4 or less)
    Daivrat, 1/2 Bab, 9/10 Casting
    Demoniac, 3/4 Bab, 9/10 Casting
    **Dragon Disciple, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if taken to level 4 or less)
    ***Eldritch Knight, Full Bab, 9/10 Casting (only for Magus entry)
    Evangelist, 3/4 Bab, 9/10 Casting
    ****Living Monolith, 3/4 Bab, 9/10 Casting
    Mystery Cultist, 3/4 Bab, 9/10 Casting
    Pathfinder Savant, 1/2 Bab, 6/7 Casting
    Razmiran Priest, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if taken to level 4 or less)
    Riftwarden, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if taken to level 4 or less)
    Souldrinker, 1/2 Bab, 8/10 Casting (if taken to level 5 or less)
    Storm Kindler, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if taken to level 4 or less)
    Tattooed Mystic, 1/2 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if taken to level 4 or less)
    Umbral Court Agent, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if taken to level 4 or less)
    Winter Witch, 1/2 Bab, 9/10 Casting (Winter Witch archetype-Only)

    2 Lost Casting
    Arcane Archer, Full Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 5-to-8 levels are taken)
    Arcane Trickster, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Casting (lost casting due to Pre-Req of 2d6 Sneak Attack)
    Blackfire Adept, 1/2 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 5-to-8 levels are taken)
    **Dragon Disciple, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 5-to-8 levels are taken)
    Eldritch Knight, Full Bab, 9/10 Casting (lost casting due to Pre-Req of All Martial Weapon prof.)
    Razmiran Priest, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 5-to-8 levels are taken)
    Riftwarden, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 5-to-8 levels are taken)
    Souldrinker, 1/2 Bab, 8/10 Casting (if taken to level 6 or more)
    Storm Kindler, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 5-to-8 levels are taken)
    Tattooed Mystic, 1/2 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 5-8 levels are taken)
    Umbral Court Agent, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 5-to-8 levels are taken)

    3 Lost Casting
    Arcane Archer, Full Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 9+ levels are taken)
    Blackfire Adept, 1/2 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 9+ levels are taken)
    **Dragon Disciple, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 9+ levels are taken)
    Mystic Theurge, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Casting (lost casting due to Pre-Req of 2nd level Divine Casting)
    Razmiran Priest, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 9+ levels are taken)
    Riftwarden, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 9+ levels are taken)
    Storm Kindler, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 9+ levels are taken)
    Tattooed Mystic, 1/2 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 9+ levels are taken)
    Umbral Court Agent, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 9+ levels are taken)

    *Sandman Archetype Bard is the only Arcane Base class that can qualify for Arcane Trickster without multiclassing
    **Dragon Disciple requires 1st level Spontaneous Casting as a Pre-Req, but can be used to advance Prepared Casting, in this case add +1 lost Casting.
    ***Magus is the only Arcane Base class that can qualify for Eldritch Knight without multiclassing.
    ****Living Monolith only has casting in the People of the Sands reprint of the class.


    Divine (sorted by minimum lost casting levels)
    Spoiler
    Show
    No Lost Casting
    Dawnflower Dissident, 3/4 Bab, 10/10 Casting
    Diabolist, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Casting
    Divine Scion, 3/4 Bab, 10/10 Casting
    Envoy of Balance, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Casting
    Exalted, 3/4 Bab, 10/10 Casting
    Genie Binder, 1/2 Bab, 5/5 Casting
    Green Faith Acolyte, 3/4 Bab, 10/10 Casting
    Harrower, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Casting
    Hellknight Signifier, 3/4 Bab, 10/10 Casting
    Inheritor's Crusader, Full Bab, 3/3 Casting (Cleric/Paladin only)
    Loremaster, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Casting
    Spherewalker, 3/4 Bab, 5/5 Casting
    Veiled Illusionist, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Casting

    1 Lost Casting (no Casting on 1st level of PrC)
    Agent of the Grave, 1/2 Bab, 4/5 Casting
    Balanced Scale of Abadar, 1/2 Bab, 5/6 Casting
    Blackfire Adept, 1/2 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if taken to level 4 or less)
    Daivrat, 1/2 Bab, 9/10 Casting
    Demoniac, 3/4 Bab, 9/10 Casting
    Evangelist, 3/4 Bab, 9/10 Casting
    Gray Gardener, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if taken to level 4 or less)
    Holy Vindicator, Full Bab, 7/10 Casting (if taken to level 4 or less)
    *Living Monolith, 3/4 Bab, 9/10 Casting
    Mystery Cultist, 3/4 Bab, 9/10 Casting
    **Nature Warden, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if taken to level 4 or less)
    Pathfinder Savant, 1/2 Bab, 6/7 Casting
    Riftwarden, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if taken to level 4 or less)
    Souldrinker, 1/2 Bab, 8/10 Casting (if taken to level 5 or less)
    Storm Kindler, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if taken to level 4 or less)
    Tattooed Mystic, 1/2 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if taken to level 4 or less)
    Umbral Court Agent, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if taken to level 4 or less)

    2 Lost Casting
    Blackfire Adept, 1/2 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 5-to-8 levels are taken)
    Gray Gardener, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 5-to-8 levels are taken)
    Holy Vindicator, Full Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 5-to-8 levels are taken)
    **Nature Warden, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 5-to-8 levels are taken)
    Riftwarden, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 5-to-8 levels are taken)
    Souldrinker, 1/2 Bab, 8/10 Casting (if taken to level 6 or more)
    ***Skyseeker, Full Bab, 7/10 Casting (if taken to level 4 or less, needs Favored Enemy)
    Storm Kindler, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 5-to-8 levels are taken)
    Tattooed Mystic, 1/2 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 5-8 levels are taken)
    Umbral Court Agent, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 5-to-8 levels are taken)

    3+ Lost Casting
    Blackfire Adept, 1/2 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 9+ levels are taken)
    Gray Gardener, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 9+ levels are taken)
    Holy Vindicator, Full Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 9+ levels are taken)
    Mystic Theurge, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Casting (lost casting due to Pre-Req of 2nd level Arcane Casting)
    **Nature Warden, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 9+ levels are taken)
    Rage Prophet, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (lost casting due to Pre-Req of 'Moment of Clairity' Rage power)
    Riftwarden, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 9+ levels are taken)
    ***Skyseeker, Full Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 5+ levels are taken, needs Favored Enemy)
    Storm Kindler, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 9+ levels are taken)
    Tattooed Mystic, 1/2 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 9+ levels are taken)
    Umbral Court Agent, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Casting (if 9+ levels are taken)

    *Living Monolith only has casting in the People of the Sands reprint of the class.
    **Nature Warden can be entered by a single-classed Druid with the World Walker Archetype (grants Favored Terrain at Druid 3). Alternate options for Favored Terrain are 1 level of Horizon Walker (+1 lost casting), 1 level of Warden Ranger (archetype, +1 lost casting) or 3 levels of Ranger (+3 lost casting)
    ***Skyseeker can be entered by a single-classed Ranger, in this case, reduce the lost Casting levels by 1


    Special
    Aspis Agent, can gain +1 to Bard or Inquisitor Casting at 2nd level
    Field Agent, 3/4 Bab, +1 Any Casting, can only be taken once (can be taken at 1st level)
    Master Chymist, Full Bab, 7/10 Extracts (Alchemist Casting)
    Thuvian Alchemist, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Extracts
    Noble Scion, can gain +1 spellcasting at 5th and 9th


    Domain
    Spoiler
    Show
    Cleric 1 (usually gets 2 Domains, some archetypes only get 1)
    Druid 1 (optional, limited choices)
    Inquisitor 1
    Paladin 4 (Sacred Servant)
    Hellknight 3 (optional, limited choices)

    Domains with non-power/non-spell bonuses:
    Animal: class skill: Knowledge (Nature)
    >Feather (Animal Sub-domain): class skill: Fly, when you cast a spell that grants Flight, your maneuverability increases by 1 step.
    Darkness: Blind-Fight feat
    Glory: Channel Energy save DC +2
    Knowledge: class skills: All Knowledge skills
    Protection: +1 all Saves
    Rune: Scribe Scroll feat
    Travel: +10ft. movement
    Trickery: class skills: Bluff, Disguise, Stealth
    Void: +2 to Saves vs. Mind-affecting

    Animal/Nature Domains
    Various: A 'matching' Familiar (Eagle Domain > Hawk, Frog Domain > Toad, etc...)
    Cave: Darkvision 60ft. (1hr. 3+Wis/day yourself, 1min. 3+Wis/day ally)
    Plains: Increased duration/speed on Summon spells, if summoning certain creatures
    Wolf: Improved Trip feat

    Inquisitions: (generally can be taken in place of a Domain, deity matching required for some)
    Black Powder: Firearm prof, Gunsmithing feat
    Conversion: Wis instead of Cha on Bluff/Diplomacy/Intimidate
    Heresy: Wis instead of Cha on Bluff/Intimidate
    Oblivion: 10ft. Aura, you/ally add your Wis to Stabilization checks
    Persistence: Step Up feat
    Spellkiller: Disruptive feat
    Torture: +2 on Intimidate checks


    Initiative
    Spoiler
    Show
    +# Bonus
    Cleric 1A, +1/2 level and always act in Surprise round (Divine Strategist)
    Druid 3A, +2 (or more) in Favored Terrain (World Walker)
    Fighter 2A, +1, +1 every 4 levels after (Tactician)
    Gunslinger 3, +2
    Inquisitor 2, +Wis
    Monk 1A, +1/2 level and always act in Surprise round (Sohei)
    Oracle 1S, Roll twice, take best, can always act in the Surprise round at 7th, Roll thrice take best at level 11 (Battle or Time)
    Oracle 1S, +4, but requires 10 minutes prep time (Juju or Nature)
    Paladin 2A, +Cha, spend Smite Evil or Lay-on-Hands to act in Surprise round (Sword of Valor)
    Ranger 1A, 3, +2 (or more) in Favored Terrain (Warden gets Favored Terrain at level 1)
    Summoner 1A, +? Only if using Synthesist to get a higher Dex score
    *Wizard 1S, +1/2 level and always act in Surprise round (Divination specialization)

    Duelist 2, +2, +4 at 8th level
    Shieldmarshal 2, +1/2 level and always act in Surprise round

    *Unlike the other "+1/2 level" classes, the Divination Wizard has a "minimum +1" clause


    Sneak Attack (+d6 on flank)
    Spoiler
    Show
    Brawler, Low Templar, Pain Taster, and Slayer have Full Bab
    Arcane Trickster has 1/2 Bab
    All other options have 3/4 Bab
    Rogue and Ninja cannot be taken together
    Vivisectionist Alchemist stacks with other classes (so Vivisectionist 1/Rogue 1 would only have 1d6 Sneak total, as a 2nd level Rogue)

    Ninja 1, every 2 levels (max 10d6)
    Rogue 1, every 2 levels (max 10d6)
    Slayer 3, every 3 levels (max 6d6)

    Alchemist 1A, every 2 levels (max 10d6) (Vivisectionist)
    Bard 5A, every 5 levels (max 4d6) (Sandman)
    Brawler 1A, uneven progression (max 5d6 at level 20) (Snakebite Striker)
    Brawler 1A, uneven progression (max 4d6 at level 15) (Strangler)
    Druid 4A, no progression (max 1d6) (Nature Fang)
    Magus 1A, every 4 levels (max 5d6) (Greensting Slayer), must spend Arcane Pool
    Crocodile Domain 6, every 5 levels (max 3d6) (Nature Domain, so typically Druids-only)

    Aspis Agent 3, every 3 levels (max 3d6)
    Assassin 1, every 2 levels (max 5d6)
    Arcane Trickster 2, every 2 levels (max 5d6), need 2d6 Sneak to enter
    Bellflower Tiller 3, every 3 levels (max 3d6), need 2d6 Sneak to enter
    Daggermark Poisoner 5, every 5 levels (max 2d6)
    Field Agent 3 (max 1d6) can only be gained once, at either 3, 6, or 9
    Gray Gardener 1, every 4 levels (max 3d6)
    Halfling Opportunist 2, every 2 levels (max 2d6)
    Inner Sea Pirate 1, every 3 levels (max 4d6)
    Lion Blade 2, every 4 levels (max 3d6), need 2d6 Sneak to enter
    Low Templar 3, every 5 levels (max 2d6)
    Master Spy 1, every 3 levels (max 4d6)
    Noble Scion 5 & 9, optional (max 2d6)
    Pain Taster (2 level version) 2, every 2 levels (max 2d6), only with Slashing weapons or Whips
    Pain Taster (10 level version) 2, every 2 levels (max 5d6), only with Whips
    Red Mantis Assassin 1, every 3 levels (max 4d6)
    Shackles Pirate 3, every 3 levels (max 3d6), need 2d6 Sneak to enter
    Sleepless Detective 1, every 3 levels (max 4d6)


    Trapfinding (anything with "Disarm Magical Traps")
    Spoiler
    Show
    Alchemist 1A (Crypt Breaker)
    Alchemist 2A (Trap Breaker)
    Bard 1A (Sandman)
    Bard 2A (at least 3 archetypes)
    Oracle 1A (Seeker)
    Ranger 1A (Trapper), or 3A (Urban Ranger)
    Rogue 1
    Sorcerer 1A (Seeker)

    Aspis Agent 1
    Balanced Scale of Abadar 1, only Temporarily disables Magic traps
    Brother of the Seal 2
    Cyphermage 1?, Can only detect "writing" based traps, can detect them with Perception or Knowledge (Arcana), can disable them with Disable Device or Spellcraft
    Field Agent 1, optional (can also be taken at 3, 6 or 9)
    Pathfinder Delver 1

    And for the sake of completeness, you don't even NEED to dip for "disarm magical traps", as you can get that through a Trait. "Trap Finder" gives a +1 bonus to Disable Device, and makes it always a class skill as well [Pathfinder Player Companion: People of the Sands]


    Uncanny Dodge
    Spoiler
    Show
    1st numbers are Uncanny Dodge, 2nd numbers are Improved Uncanny Dodge. Multiple instances of Uncanny Dodge 'stack' to become Improved Uncanny Dodge. If you have Uncanny Dodge from multiple classes, then your levels in those classes stack for the effect of Improved Uncanny Dodge.
    Barbarian 2 - 5
    Bard 2A (does not gain Imp. Uncanny Dodge)
    Ninja 4 - 8
    Ranger 2A (does not gain Imp. Uncanny Dodge)
    Rogue 4 - 8

    Assassin 2 - 5
    Pain Taster 3 (does not gain Imp. Uncanny Dodge)
    Shadowdancer 2 - 5
    Stalwart Defender 3 - 7
    Ulfen Guard 1 - 3 (class option, can be taken at any odd level)



    Sources: Sources for Archetypes will not be listed due to space reasons. Feel free to reference the PFSRD, or post a reply to this thread.

    Core:
    Spoiler
    Show

    Barbarian
    Bard
    Cleric
    Druid
    Fighter
    Monk
    Paladin
    Ranger
    Rogue
    Sorcerer
    Wizard

    Arcane Archer
    Arcane Trickster
    Assassin
    Dragon Disciple
    Duelist
    Eldritch Knight
    Loremaster
    Mystic Theurge
    Pathfinder Chronicler
    Shadowdancer


    Advanced Players Guide:
    Spoiler
    Show
    Alchemist
    Antipaladin
    Cavalier
    Inquisitor
    Oracle
    Summoner
    Witch

    Battle Herald
    Holy Vindicator
    Horizon Walker
    Master Chymist
    Master Spy
    Nature Warden
    Rage Prophet
    Stalwart Defender


    Ultimate Magic:
    Spoiler
    Show
    Magus


    Ultimate Combat:
    Spoiler
    Show
    Gunslinger
    Ninja
    Samurai


    Other:
    Spoiler
    Show
    Agent of the Grave; Pathfinder Adventure Path #45: Broken Moon
    Balanced Scale of Abadar; Pathfinder Chronicles: Dark Markets, A Guide to Katapesh
    Bloatmage; Pathfinder Chronicles: City of Strangers
    Brightness Seeker; Pathfinder Companion: Elves of Golarion
    Chevalier; Pathfinder 14: Children of the Void
    Cyphermage; Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Inner Sea Magic
    Daivrat; Pathfinder Companion: Qadira, Gateway to the East
    Demoniac; Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Lords of Chaos; Book of the Damned, Vol. 2
    Diabolist; Pathfinder Chronicles: Princes of Darkness, Book of the Damned Vol. 1
    Divine Scion; Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Inner Sea Magic
    Envoy of Balance; Pathfinder Player Companion: Champions of Balance
    Evangelist; Pathfinder Campagin Setting: Inner Sea Gods
    Field Agent; Pathfinder Player Companion: Pathfinder Society Primer
    Genie Binder; Pathfinder Adventure Path Volume #22: The End of Eternity
    Halfling Opportunist; Pathfinder Player Companion: Halflings of Golarion
    Harrower; Pathfinder Campaign Setting: The Inner Sea World Guide
    Hellknight; Pathfinder Campaign Setting: The Inner Sea World Guide
    Inheritor's Crusader; Pathfinder Adventure Path Volume #26: The Sixfold Trial
    Justicar; Pathfinder 8: Seven Days to the Grave
    Liberator; Pathfinder Companion: Second Darkness Player's Guide
    Lion Blade; Pathfinder Companion: Taldor, Echoes of Glory
    Living Monolith; Pathfinder Companion: Osirion, Land of Pharaohs
    Living Monolith, reprinted; Pathfinder Player Companion: People of the Sands
    Low Templar; Pathfinder Campaign Setting: The Inner Sea World Guide
    Pain Taster; Pathfinder 15: The Armageddon Echo
    Pathfinder Delver; Pathfinder Chronicles: Seekers of Secrets
    Pathfinder Savant; Pathfinder Chronicles: Seekers of Secrets
    Pure Legion Enforcer, Ulfen Guard: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Inner Sea Combat
    Red Mantis Assassin; Pathfinder Campaign Setting: The Inner Sea World Guide
    Shackles Pirate; Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting
    Souldrinker; Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Horsemen of the Apocalypse: Book of the Damned, Vol. 3
    Spherewalker; Pathfinder 2: The Skinsaw Murders
    Steel Falcon; Pathfinder Companion: Andoran, Spirit of Liberty
    Pathfinder Chronicles: Seekers of Secrets
    Last edited by grarrrg; 2014-10-31 at 10:33 AM.

  4. - Top - End - #4
    Pixie in the Playground
     
    Jagu's Avatar

    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Gender
    Female

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Barbarian rage features are also character-level-dependant, not Barbarian-level-dependant. So Barbarian2 into fighter3 then barbarian 4 into Cavalier1 then barbarian 6 nets you Pounce and a NA bonus while raging, then you continue down Cavalier.

  5. - Top - End - #5
    Colossus in the Playground
     
    Coidzor's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Samurai Casino
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Interesting to know about Barbarians, that.

    Nifty idea you had grarrg. Nice to look over.
    Quote Originally Posted by Keld Denar View Post
    +3 Girlfriend is totally unoptimized. You are better off with a +1 Keen Witty girlfriend and then appling Greater Magic Make-up to increase her enhancement bonus.
    Homebrew
    To Do: Reboot and finish Riptide

  6. - Top - End - #6
    Ettin in the Playground
     
    Cieyrin's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Quote Originally Posted by Coidzor View Post
    Interesting to know about Barbarians, that.

    Nifty idea you had grarrg. Nice to look over.
    Not just true of Barbarians, lots of classes just check level, not class level, you just have to look at the wording.
    Rule of Cool Contributor and Goon

    Goblin Cannon Crew avatar by Vrythas.
    Spoiler
    Show

    Gnome Gun Mage avatar by NEO|Phyte
    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletmanalive View Post
    Damn you Cieyrin! Cieyrin!!!!!read as Khaaaaan!

    My badges! :D
    My Homebrew
    The Gunslinger's Handbook
    Archetype Combo List!

  7. - Top - End - #7
    Troll in the Playground
     
    OrcBarbarianGuy

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Ponyville
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cieyrin View Post
    Not just true of Barbarians, lots of classes just check level, not class level, you just have to look at the wording.
    As for whether "Character level, not Class level" is intentional or not is up to debate. The folks at Paizo have botched before.....


    Speaking of debating... I have 3 posts to work with, and I'm trying to decide if the guide should go

    Base Class
    Prestige Class
    Common Abilities

    Or

    Common Abilities
    Base Class
    Prestige Class


    Either way the Common Abilities section will be brief and refer you to the in depth sections.
    Last edited by grarrrg; 2012-01-29 at 12:00 PM.

  8. - Top - End - #8
    Ettin in the Playground
     
    Cieyrin's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Quote Originally Posted by grarrrg View Post
    As for whether its intentional or not is up to debate...
    I don't put much stock into Paizo's ability to proofread their own material these days...
    Rule of Cool Contributor and Goon

    Goblin Cannon Crew avatar by Vrythas.
    Spoiler
    Show

    Gnome Gun Mage avatar by NEO|Phyte
    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletmanalive View Post
    Damn you Cieyrin! Cieyrin!!!!!read as Khaaaaan!

    My badges! :D
    My Homebrew
    The Gunslinger's Handbook
    Archetype Combo List!

  9. - Top - End - #9
    Colossus in the Playground
     
    Coidzor's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Samurai Casino
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cieyrin View Post
    Not just true of Barbarians, lots of classes just check level, not class level, you just have to look at the wording.
    Hmm, too bad this isn't enough to counteract Paizo's rabid anti-multiclassing policy... or at least I haven't heard of any combos worthwhile enough to do so yet...
    Quote Originally Posted by Keld Denar View Post
    +3 Girlfriend is totally unoptimized. You are better off with a +1 Keen Witty girlfriend and then appling Greater Magic Make-up to increase her enhancement bonus.
    Homebrew
    To Do: Reboot and finish Riptide

  10. - Top - End - #10
    Ettin in the Playground
     
    Cieyrin's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Quote Originally Posted by Coidzor View Post
    Hmm, too bad this isn't enough to counteract Paizo's rabid anti-multiclassing policy... or at least I haven't heard of any combos worthwhile enough to do so yet...
    I'm not sure what's anti-multiclassing, other than prestige classes not giving full saves anymore. They don't have WotC's multiclass XP penalty, for one, the Favored Class benefit rewards you for staying in class, with Half-Elves being able to do 2 classes and maintaining the Favored Class bonus.
    Rule of Cool Contributor and Goon

    Goblin Cannon Crew avatar by Vrythas.
    Spoiler
    Show

    Gnome Gun Mage avatar by NEO|Phyte
    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletmanalive View Post
    Damn you Cieyrin! Cieyrin!!!!!read as Khaaaaan!

    My badges! :D
    My Homebrew
    The Gunslinger's Handbook
    Archetype Combo List!

  11. - Top - End - #11
    Orc in the Playground
     
    RogueGuy

    Join Date
    Apr 2011

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cieyrin View Post
    Not just true of Barbarians, lots of classes just check level, not class level, you just have to look at the wording.
    There's an implied "class" before "level" in any "level" that's talked about in a class description.

    Class abilities that refer to level always refer to your level in that class unless stated otherwise.
    (Source)

  12. - Top - End - #12
    Ogre in the Playground
     
    Blisstake's Avatar

    Join Date
    Mar 2011

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Quote Originally Posted by Coidzor View Post
    Hmm, too bad this isn't enough to counteract Paizo's rabid anti-multiclassing policy... or at least I haven't heard of any combos worthwhile enough to do so yet...
    Multiclassing isn't a horrible option, but it's true that there are less incentives to take dips, which was extremely common in 3.5. Certain classes however, still remain excellent choices, such as Paladin 2 (even better now, since 1 smite/day can actually make a huge difference) and Fighter 2.
    Avatar by A Rainy Knight

  13. - Top - End - #13
    Ettin in the Playground
     
    Cieyrin's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Quote Originally Posted by jmelesky View Post
    There's an implied "class" before "level" in any "level" that's talked about in a class description.

    (Source)
    If they'd roll that out in the Errata or FAQ as opposed to having to go forum roving, I'd be so much happier.
    Rule of Cool Contributor and Goon

    Goblin Cannon Crew avatar by Vrythas.
    Spoiler
    Show

    Gnome Gun Mage avatar by NEO|Phyte
    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletmanalive View Post
    Damn you Cieyrin! Cieyrin!!!!!read as Khaaaaan!

    My badges! :D
    My Homebrew
    The Gunslinger's Handbook
    Archetype Combo List!

  14. - Top - End - #14
    Ogre in the Playground
     
    Arbane's Avatar

    Join Date
    May 2010

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cieyrin View Post
    I'm not sure what's anti-multiclassing, other than prestige classes not giving full saves anymore. They don't have WotC's multiclass XP penalty, for one, the Favored Class benefit rewards you for staying in class, with Half-Elves being able to do 2 classes and maintaining the Favored Class bonus.
    Also,it looks like most Prestige Classes don't advance any base-class features except spellcasting - one of several reasons the Rage Prophet didn't look worth it. (No new Rage powers, no new Revelations...)
    Last edited by Arbane; 2012-01-29 at 02:40 PM.
    Imagine if all real-world conversations were like internet D&D conversations...
    Protip: DnD is an incredibly social game played by some of the most socially inept people on the planet - Lev

  15. - Top - End - #15
    Colossus in the Playground
     
    Coidzor's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Samurai Casino
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cieyrin View Post
    I'm not sure what's anti-multiclassing, other than prestige classes not giving full saves anymore. They don't have WotC's multiclass XP penalty, for one, the Favored Class benefit rewards you for staying in class, with Half-Elves being able to do 2 classes and maintaining the Favored Class bonus.
    Everything I've read on the subject from Paizo and from people discussing Paizo has been that they personally dislike the concept of multiclassing, which is part of why they developed the archetype system and have made rumblings about ceasing to make PrCs in favor of only archetypes from now on.

    They actually put in a multiclassing penalty that wouldn't just be ignored for one, by disadvantaging you for not staying in the box in comparison with those who do.
    Quote Originally Posted by Keld Denar View Post
    +3 Girlfriend is totally unoptimized. You are better off with a +1 Keen Witty girlfriend and then appling Greater Magic Make-up to increase her enhancement bonus.
    Homebrew
    To Do: Reboot and finish Riptide

  16. - Top - End - #16
    Troll in the Playground
     
    OrcBarbarianGuy

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Ponyville
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Quote Originally Posted by Coidzor View Post
    They actually put in a multiclassing penalty that wouldn't just be ignored for one, by disadvantaging you for not staying in the box in comparison with those who do.
    This is actually a stealth smart way to discourage Multi-classing, by changing a negative into a positive.

    3.5 gave you Penalties for taking more than 1 class, largely consisted of XP deduction.
    PF rewards you for staying in the same class, partly through the revamped Favored Class bonus. You can ONLY get the Favored bonus(es) if you stay in the ONE class chosen.

  17. - Top - End - #17
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Starbuck_II's Avatar

    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Enterprise, Alabama
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Ranger has trapper for level 1 Trapfinding

  18. - Top - End - #18
    Troll in the Playground
     
    OrcBarbarianGuy

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Ponyville
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck_II View Post
    Ranger has trapper for level 1 Trapfinding
    I'm filling in the Quick reference as I do the main entries.
    It's easier that way.

  19. - Top - End - #19
    Barbarian in the Playground
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Denmark
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    About your writeup for the Magus:

    *Note: Spell Combat and Spellstrike specify a spell "from the Magus spell list". This either means any spell that a Magus could conceivably cast (abusable!), OR any spell that YOU could cast as a Magus (not worth dipping!). Check with your DM*
    It's clearly the latter, this is also evident when you look at the Broad Study Arcana, which specifically allows you to bypass the restriction. And that discovery requires 6 Magus levels, making Magus a somewhat less attractive dip.

  20. - Top - End - #20
    Bugbear in the Playground
     
    Daemon

    Join Date
    Dec 2010

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Quote Originally Posted by Corlindale View Post
    About your writeup for the Magus:



    It's clearly the latter, this is also evident when you look at the Broad Study Arcana, which specifically allows you to bypass the restriction. And that discovery requires 6 Magus levels, making Magus a somewhat less attractive dip.
    I always interpreted that as you being able to cast, 'any spell on the magus' spell list.'
    Last edited by Curious; 2012-01-29 at 03:55 PM.
    Prestige Bard, updated for Pathfinder.

    Revamped Spell Resistance system, for use with Spell Points/Psionics.

  21. - Top - End - #21
    Troll in the Playground
     
    OrcBarbarianGuy

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Ponyville
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Quote Originally Posted by Corlindale View Post
    It's clearly the latter, this is also evident when you look at the Broad Study Arcana, which specifically allows you to bypass the restriction. And that discovery requires 6 Magus levels, making Magus a somewhat less attractive dip.
    Still doesn't help.
    Broad study "...while casting or using spells from the spell list of that class..."
    It uses the same terminology, specifically calling out "spell list".

    Part of the reason for this is that you may have a Scroll/Wand/etc... of a Magus spell and you should be allowed to use those with your Magus abilities.

    The problem comes in when there are spells on your list that are also on another classes list. Broad Study is mainly for spells another class has that you DON'T have as a Magus.

  22. - Top - End - #22
    Troll in the Playground
     
    OrcBarbarianGuy

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Ponyville
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    All base classes have been covered.
    Please let me know if I missed anything.

    Prestige... will be interesting...

  23. - Top - End - #23
    Firbolg in the Playground
     
    stack's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jun 2011

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    There is a feat that lets you use character level as druid level for animal companions if you have the expert trained feature (cavalier 4). This would give you a full-power mount for multy-classing into anything else. Might be nice for a mounted fighter/barb/monk/etc.

    Horse Master
    Last edited by stack; 2012-02-21 at 11:43 AM.
    Check out these DSP projects:
    Akashic Mysteries (Incarnum-esque)
    Channeling Unleashed
    (I am not affiliated with either, just trying to get them more exposure.)

  24. - Top - End - #24
    Bugbear in the Playground
     
    Daemon

    Join Date
    Aug 2010

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    The ninja dip is pretty significantly different from the rogue dip. Ki pool is a whole package of abilities and is potentially a very significant dip for nova ability since it can be used to get an extra attack on a full attack with a two-level dip.

  25. - Top - End - #25
    Troll in the Playground
     
    OrcBarbarianGuy

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Ponyville
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Quote Originally Posted by Benly View Post
    The ninja dip is pretty significantly different from the rogue dip. Ki pool is a whole package of abilities and is potentially a very significant dip for nova ability since it can be used to get an extra attack on a full attack with a two-level dip.
    Rebuttal:
    Rogue Talent is a whole package of abilities and is potentially a very significant dip.

    Revelation is a whole package of abilities and is potentially a very significant dip.

    MONK is a whole package of ANYTHING EVER and IS a very significant dip.

    tl;dr
    Elaborating on Ki Pool is the least of my worries.....
    Last edited by grarrrg; 2012-01-31 at 08:04 PM.

  26. - Top - End - #26
    Bugbear in the Playground
     
    Daemon

    Join Date
    Aug 2010

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Quote Originally Posted by grarrrg View Post
    Rebuttal:
    Rogue Talent is a whole package of abilities and is potentially a very significant dip.

    Revelation is a whole package of abilities and is potentially a very significant dip.

    MONK is a whole package of ANYTHING EVER and IS a very significant dip.

    tl;dr
    Elaborating on Ki Pool is the least of my worries.....
    I should clarify: I believe that this makes it more distinct from rogue than the classification as a rogue dip would indicate. I didn't mean "Ninja is more important than any other dip, ever!" The other subclasses change relatively little in the first few levels compared to their base class, whereas a two-level ninja dip brings a much different benefit to a build than a two-level rogue dip does.

  27. - Top - End - #27
    Orc in the Playground
     
    WolfInSheepsClothing

    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Are you going to write down all specifics? I mean as in dip in cleric can grant these domains and thus these bonusses?

    Which is really a lot of work, but would be incredibly helpful.

  28. - Top - End - #28
    Troll in the Playground
     
    OrcBarbarianGuy

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Ponyville
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Quote Originally Posted by mikau013 View Post
    Are you going to write down all specifics? I mean as in dip in cleric can grant these domains and thus these bonusses?

    Which is really a lot of work, but would be incredibly helpful.
    Domains are (briefly) covered in the Quick Reference section.

    And I am attempting to be as specific as necessary. This means two things;
    Time constraints are one. For example, I'm not going to type out EVERY single Rogue Talent, it would bloat the guide, and waste my time. I will probably throw a link to the PFSRD Rogue Talent page though, and/or point out some widely useful ones (like using a Rogue Talent to take a Combat Feat). Also, this is the first pass through, I do plan to go back and 'tweak' some areas.

    Secondly, I'm staying within my general guidelines for "dippy-ness".
    Small bonuses will mostly be ignored, such as "+1 to Will saves vs. Fear". Only larger/widely useful bonuses will be listed.
    1/day (or less) use abilities will be ignored, unless they are very useful.
    An example would be the vast majority of 1st level Domain Powers, most either grant a bonus of "1/2 Cleric level" or only last "1/2 Cleric level rounds". For the sake of Dipping, these bonuses aren't worth mentioning, as 1/2 of a 3 level Cleric is still only 1.

  29. - Top - End - #29
    Troll in the Playground
     
    OrcBarbarianGuy

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Ponyville
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    The Feat Master (a build)

    How many feats can we cram onto a single level 20 character?
    We will ignore ALL Weapon/Armor/Shield feats. Just from leveling there will be +10 feats, these will be added at the end. Numbers in () at the end of a line are the running total.

    Start with a Human, Bonus Feat (1)
    Alchemist 1, Brew Potion, Throw Anything, (3)
    Bard/Arcane Duelist 2, Arcane Strike, Combat Casting (5)
    Cavalier/Musketeer 1, Teamwork Feat, Gunsmithing Feat (7)
    Cleric 1, Blind-Fight, Disruptive (from Domains) (9)
    Fighter/Unbreakable 2, Diehard, Endurance, Bonus Combat (11)
    Gunslinger/Mustket Master 1, Gunsmithing, Rapid Reload (Musket) (13)
    Magus/Spire Defender 1, Combat Expertise, Dodge (15)
    Monk/Zen Archer 3, Bonus Combat X2, Improved Unarmed Strike, Perfect Strike, Weapon Focus, Point Blank Master (21)
    Oracle 1, Weapon Focus (22)
    Paladin/Holy Gun 1, Amateur Gunslinger, Gunsmithing (24)
    Ranger 3, Bonus Combat, Endurance (26)
    Rogue/Pirate 1, Sea Legs (27)
    Sorcerer 1, Eschew Materials (28)
    Wizard 1, Scribe Scroll (29)

    That's 20 levels, adding in the general 10 we have 39 feats.
    Granted we have Weapon Focus twice, but that's ok, it's weapon specific anyway. We also have Gunsmithing _3_ times though...

    And for the sake of completeness:
    Druid 1, can take a Domain/Inquisition and grab something.

  30. - Top - End - #30
    Colossus in the Playground
     
    Coidzor's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Samurai Casino
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Pathfinder: Dipping for Fun and Profit (mostly Profit)

    Quote Originally Posted by grarrrg View Post
    Domains are (briefly) covered in the Quick Reference section.

    And I am attempting to be as specific as necessary. This means two things;
    Time constraints are one. For example, I'm not going to type out EVERY single Rogue Talent, it would bloat the guide, and waste my time. I will probably throw a link to the PFSRD Rogue Talent page though, and/or point out some widely useful ones (like using a Rogue Talent to take a Combat Feat).
    Much better to hit the especial highlights from such things, especially with regards to longevity of the ability's usefulness.
    Quote Originally Posted by Keld Denar View Post
    +3 Girlfriend is totally unoptimized. You are better off with a +1 Keen Witty girlfriend and then appling Greater Magic Make-up to increase her enhancement bonus.
    Homebrew
    To Do: Reboot and finish Riptide

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •