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2012-02-01, 01:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Quadstalt! (3.5 silly idea)
The next logical step up from tristalt...
Imagine the potential! A fighter/rogue/mage/cleric is an adevnturing party all by themselves!
However, for the sake of what little balance remains, there have to be some restrictions:
1.) You may not have more than two classes that can cast arcane or divine magic.
2.) You may not gain more than 3 bonus feats in a level due to class features.
3.) No prestige classes/multiclassing. You have enough classes already, so stop being greedy.
4.) Alignment wise, strike a balance between the two classes.
Example: A Paladin/Rogue MUST be Neutral Good, as that is a balance between Lawful and Chaotic.
Any other suggestions/patches/critiqiues of this stupidly overpowered system?"Power only truly exists at the end of your hand."
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2012-02-01, 01:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Quadstalt! (3.5 silly idea)
Rogues can already be Lawful Good. Why do you have to strike a balance between Chaotic and Lawful for a rogue/paladin?
What about druid/paladins? Druids must be Neutral, Paladins must be Lawful Good. Can a paladin/druid, then, be Lawful Neutral? (A paladin gets Smite Evil and Detect Evil. Would he retain these if he wasn't Good?)Last edited by NeoSeraphi; 2012-02-01 at 01:10 PM.
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2012-02-01, 01:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Quadstalt! (3.5 silly idea)
*facepalm*
Sorry, still thinking in ADAD terms. My apologies.
Your example works better."Power only truly exists at the end of your hand."
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2012-02-01, 02:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-01, 02:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Why stop at four? There are 48 base classes in 3.5 barring variants and ACFs, so a Quadragenoctostalt character could play all the classes.
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2012-02-01, 02:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Quadstalt! (3.5 silly idea)
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Why not indeed?
Except, you know, for trying to kill the DM when he tries to keep track of all the spells, feats, class abilities, animals, powers and such like that one character can possess.
Actually, that doesn't sound too bad..."Power only truly exists at the end of your hand."
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2012-02-01, 08:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-01, 11:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Beg the DM to let me swap Evo and Necro from the Wiz/Sor list (for both classes) for all the Conjuration (Healing) spells.
Let me multiclass one side, and I'll replace Qinggong with Rogue 2/Zen Archer 3/Swashbuckler 3/Soulknife 9/Soulbow 3.
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2012-02-01, 11:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-02, 12:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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This would actually be pretty legit if there was a shortage of players. As in, one player and one DM.
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2012-02-02, 06:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-02, 06:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-02, 08:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-02, 09:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Quadstalt! (3.5 silly idea)
I played with a group the hypothesized that a Gelstalt/Tristalt/Quadstalt PC is of equal power to a PC (well designed and optimized) of their level +1/+2/+3 respectively. The power scale needed to be shifted slightly for the tri and quad stalts based on the tier of class they played, but in general I think that they were correct. Our games were certainly fun. Lots of options. The Action Economy is what kept everything balanced.
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2012-02-02, 09:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Quadstalt! (3.5 silly idea)
I'd use Pathfinder for this, and build a Fighter/Paladin/Cavalier/Barbarian. As a GM, I don't use alignment, so the Paladin and Barbarian can in fact mesh. There are mount specialized archetypes for Fighters, Paladins, and Barbarians, and I will take them.
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2012-02-02, 10:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-03, 12:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-03, 07:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by KKL
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2012-02-03, 07:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-03, 08:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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I think the real question is, at what point does an N-stalt have so much on its plate already, that becoming N+1-stalt provides negligible to zero benefit. Everything else is just creeping one's way towards omnistalt.
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Quadstalt: the day balance
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