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    Yeah, sorry about that. There's just too much information flying around and people who were drawn in by the Kickstarter don't always read the message board (and vice versa).
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    I hope being on twitter doesn't mean Mr B spends forever on Twitter til he starts focusing more on that and less on his work. Other celebrities have fallen this way (Stephen Fry, Stephen Moffat, Little Kuriboh).

    Seeing makes me wonder what Twitter account. He uses too many words.

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    Since apparently I'm the only one who doesn't know: who is Neil Gaiman? And why is his opinion so worthwhile?
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    Don't feel too bad, I don't know who he is either....

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    Don't feel too bad, I don't know who he is either....
    The TL;DR is that he's a famous writer, having written stuff like Sandman, American Gods and Coraline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunken Valley View Post
    I hope being on twitter doesn't mean Mr B spends forever on Twitter til he starts focusing more on that and less on his work.
    Somehow I don't think that will happen.
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    For the Twitter-resenters, you don't have to sign up for an account, you can just bookmark Rich's page and check it every now and again (or put it into an RSS feed if you use that). You don't have to be logged in to read it.

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    Twitter...

    <gloomy clouds of doomity-doom that loom and balloon melodramatically (darn, no 'oom') get inserted here>

    I've been avoiding that 'cos I know what a chatterbox I am. I'm bad enough as it is. I really don't need any more incentive to waste time.

    Pass. For the time being.
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    GeekNights podcast does an episode on Order of the Stick!

    I met these guys at a con and I've been listening ever since. Rym runs one heck of a good convention game!
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    Really good article about OotS and the Kickstarter drive over at Tor.com:

    http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/03/kic...r-of-the-stick
    (h/t John F. MacMichael from the comments section of the latest update)

    Nice way to end it, I think:

    Cory Doctorow cautions, over at Boing Boing, that this isn’t some sort of herald of the end of business models as we know it. The success of self-publishing superstars like Rich Burlew is more equivalent to winning the lottery or becoming a rockstar. A fair enough point, but the difference, I would argue, is that this isn’t random chance, or studio-driven. If this is gambling, it is poker, not the lotto. There are elements of luck and marketing at play, but there is also something else. There is the — pardon me if I get a little sappy — the interplay between a creator and his audience at work. The play, as a crazy Danish guy once said, is the thing. The Order of the Stick made a million dollars, and that is pretty cool. Rich Burlew had more than his 1000 true fans, and when the time came to cash in his chips, they came through.
    As seen in the quoted paragraph above, there was another look at the drive from Boing Boing:

    http://boingboing.net/2012/03/13/int...of-the-st.html

    Mostly it's a recap of the interview with Singularity Hub, but Corey also chimes in with some thoughts of the whole thing.
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    Thanks, these have all been added.
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    Thanks, these have all been added.
    The new Boing Boing link is messed up.

    Here is is corrected:

    Boing Boing (3/13/2012)
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    Hmmm: Cory's piece for Tor.com is interesting. I got the distinct impression he's bumped into Sarah's views, but can't pin it down to an individual quote. And, taken them on board, to boot. The poker analogy certainly holds more water than the lottery one does, IMO.

    Maybe for start-up strips, the lotto works. But not for OotS. And, Erfworld, too.

    Plus, I loved the idea of Belkar nicking off with the Arkenstone. To be honest, I think he'd have quite a job hiding that from Haley
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    Hmmm: Cory's piece for Tor.com is interesting. I got the distinct impression he's bumped into Sarah's views, but can't pin it down to an individual quote. And, taken them on board, to boot. The poker analogy certainly holds more water than the lottery one does, IMO.
    The article over at Tor and the one at Boing Boing were written by different people. Apologies if I didn't make that clear.
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    The article over at Tor and the one at Boing Boing were written by different people. Apologies if I didn't make that clear.
    Uh -- that's totally my bad, and nothing to do with you, Porthos, old chum. I got mixed up.

    Mordicai's article for Tor is what I meant. Although he did reference Cory's: which is where my muddle happened. Doh!

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    Well, this is interesting.

    The Order of the Stick had a small mention on a program for The Voice of Russia, which is the Russian government's international radio broadcasting service:

    The internet helps the homeless, the less fortunate and the creative

    Broadcast on March 14th, 2012 15:16 Moscow Time, which would be 7:16am EDT.

    It was only mentioned in a list of all of the super successful Kickstarter projects in the last couple of months, and no details about the strip were given. But, really, this is like being mentioned on Voice of America or the BBC World Service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Porthos View Post
    Well, this is interesting.

    The Order of the Stick had a small mention on a program for The Voice of Russia, which is the Russian government's international radio broadcasting service:

    The internet helps the homeless, the less fortunate and the creative

    Broadcast on March 14th, 2012 15:16 Moscow Time, which would be 7:16am EDT.

    It was only mentioned in a list of all of the super successful Kickstarter projects in the last couple of months, and no details about the strip were given. But, really, this is like being mentioned on Voice of America or the BBC World Service.
    Sounds like a backhanded compliment to me but still, a mention is a mention.
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    Nice! I'm not going to put it in the list because it doesn't really do anything but drop the comic's name in a list of recently successful KS drives. It's not really about OOTS.
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    Nice! I'm not going to put it in the list because it doesn't really do anything but drop the comic's name in a list of recently successful KS drives. It's not really about OOTS.
    A dutch paper also briefly mentioned you when talking about kickstarter at http://www.deondernemer.nl/economie/...-echt-wel.html
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    Uh. Although not specifically about the Drive... this... is certainly a contender for the "weirdest context to be mentioned in" prize... http://www.cartoonbrew.com/.

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    Kickstarter Blog did a nice statistical analysis of the impact of OOTS and Double Fine using data that only they could see: http://www.kickstarter.com/blog/blockbuster-effects
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    Linked from http://twitter.com/#!/RichBurlew -- OOTS shows up as an example of the use of a diverse cast.

    http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/04/a-m...ns-and-dragons

    This link also helped me parse Rich's previous tweet about "diverse backgrounds" in the Kickstarter project called Prismatic Art Collection. "Why do I care whether the artwork shows the heroes standing in front of a sky or a forest? Ohhhhhh."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Gamera View Post
    This link also helped me parse Rich's previous tweet about "diverse backgrounds" in the Kickstarter project called Prismatic Art Collection. "Why do I care whether the artwork shows the heroes standing in front of a sky or a forest? Ohhhhhh."
    Look, just because the game originated by depicting cool and temperate climates does not mean that we can't depict warmer terrains like deserts and jungles. Fantasy art does not have to only show the landscape types found in northern Europe in order for gamers to identify with it!
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    Look, just because the game originated by depicting cool and temperate climates does not mean that we can't depict warmer terrains like deserts and jungles. Fantasy art does not have to only show the landscape types found in northern Europe in order for gamers to identify with it!
    And, you know... Moors only stuck to North Africa, anyway. And, Rome didn't ship people of all different types of skins all over at all, before that, either. Uh-uh. Nope. Not at all. Neither of these could possibly have had any effect anywhere in Europe for several hundred years, forgetting other points of contact on top of them. Nah. Never.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    Look, just because the game originated by depicting cool and temperate climates does not mean that we can't depict warmer terrains like deserts and jungles. Fantasy art does not have to only show the landscape types found in northern Europe in order for gamers to identify with it!
    Oh, I definitely agree. And it's so much fun also planning out the native flora and fauna, how people would adapt to living in different biomes, and how different biomes transition to each other. Seriously, any worldbuilder needs a good ecology textbook.
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    I think your right Coffee…..I've been focusing on the cities and people….but there is also wilderness too…..which I haven't…..hrm…..might have to read up on such things someday.
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    And Coffee, I am thinking about tapping into other asian cultures that are ignored by people who tried to make Asian themed D&D adventures. Like Hui, Uyghur, and Central Asian culture (You know mountains, mixture of middle east and asian structure, and wool hats).
    But I thought D&D core game is based on your imagination (as in you can make your own non white country and non white race (well human actually)).
    Edit: I already edited out the need for WRPG's diverse race (Since Elderscrolls is not the only game with non white race (Redguard), I found out that guild wars have asian country).
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    The project looks... interesting. I'm not an RPGer myself, so I don't know to what extent other races are under-represented, but I'm willing to accept everyone's word for it. It's about time RPG games shook off the 'white and nerdy' tag (and can instead be 'multicultural and nerdy' ).

    As an aside, t209, surely the fact that there's one non-white race in the Elder Scrolls games, and we can't even tell what they're meant to be, is a problem?

    I don't know as much about the games and backstory as you and others do, but does anyone else think that their lack of cultural background makes them seem more like a general catch-all for non-white players?

    (Correct me where I'm wrong, as I'm sure I am ).

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    Actually, I'm going to suggest that if anyone wants to discuss the article or its broader implications in any depth (without veering into politics), they do so in a new thread in the Roleplaying Games forum. I'd like to keep this thread fairly focused on just pointing out media mentions. Thanks.
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    I guess this qualifies: MTV Geek did a comic strip about my Kickstarter here, though I can't say I care for the characterization that I have money to burn. It's all being spent on the project or reinvesting in the business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    I guess this qualifies: MTV Geek did a comic strip about my Kickstarter here, though I can't say I care for the characterization that I have money to burn. It's all being spent on the project or reinvesting in the business.
    Yeah, I detect hints of jealousy in that article for what they (wrongly) perceive to be the outcome of the Kickstarter Drive. Stuff like "Then you might think 'what the #^@% would I spend all that money on, since I don’t need anywhere near that to make a comic book.' And again, you’d be right." I don't think they looked long at the drive page before just running with their assumptions.
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