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2012-03-31, 07:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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"My Hobby: Replacing your soap with gravy" by rtg0922, Doll and Clint "Rawhide" Eastwood by Sneak
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Then prepare to have your mind blown...
GRAVITATIONAL WAVES.
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As others have mentioned, wave-particle duality (and waviness in general, especially with regards to forces [EM, gravity, etc.]) is a fundamental part of modern science. Everything has WPD, even macroscopic objects, however, the wavelengths of macroscopic objects are much to small in comparison to their physical size for this to be observed/meaningful.
Example: The wavelength of an object that masses 100 kg (say, an adult human) and is moving at 5 m/s (a meh running speed), has a wavelength of 1.32*10^-36 m, or ~10^36 times smaller than said human. Contrast this to an electron moving at 5 m/s (not going to happen, but it is useful for comparison), the wavelength is 1.45*10^-4 m, which is ~10^11 times larger than the classical radius of an electron. So we can observe wave properties for an electron, but not a human.
More fun with the dual slit experiment: if you dim the light down a lot, so that you know that only one photon is going through the experiment apparatus over some time, you still get a wave pattern if one collects data for a long period of time. However, each individual photon hits a single spot on the collection screen as if it were a particle (like a BB hitting a wall) but the locations where it can hit are determined by the probabilities due to the wave (due to the photon interfering with itself)! So a location where wave interferrence would cancel out (leaving a dark spot in a bright light experiment) will never have a "hit," and it is more likely for the hit to occur in a area where the wave interference adds up. You can never be sure where the photon will hit, only where it won't hit.
And the dual slit experiment has been done with stuff much larger than electrons: 60 Carbon buckyballs have been used in a dual slit experiment, and they did indeed show wave properties, despite their size.
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2012-04-03, 08:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Okay, so I have a sort of odd question. In some works of fiction magic interferes with "technology". I put technology in quotes because it seems a bit random what counts as "technology". Anyways, a thought occurred to me, but I don't know enough physics to know if it would work. A magnetic field interferes with electronics, correct? So could we say that that magic produces an electromagnetic field, or even works on electromagnetic principles? If so, what effects would a field capable of interfering with electronics have in general? For example, would it have other effects besides interfering with electronics?
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2012-04-03, 09:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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I dare say it should interfere with compasses. But if you're looking for a scientific explanation for it, I'd say magnetism isn't the best one. Magnetic fields don't mess with technology in the way that magic does in certain fictional works - or at least, the strength of a magnetic field required for one to do such would be so enormous that a wizard would have other problems beside messing up someone's computer. Static electricity is less problematic; for one thing, it's directly harmful to a variety of technical components (magnets aren't, it's just that hard drives use magnets to store data, so other magnets would interfere, of course), but more importantly, you don't need a bolt of lightning to do it.
I prefer any explanation that involves quantum mechanics though, though. In any universe with science as we know it, magic must involve laws physics that are fundamentally different from that we understand. Assuming we haven't gotten everything in physics wrong, there must be entirely separate forces that we haven't discovered, and these forces must involve likewise undiscovered subatomic particles. And how they would react with any other system that involves the delicate manipulation of subatomic particles - e.g. all electronics - I can't say, since we haven't discovered these particles. But it's probably not something good.Last edited by JCarter426; 2012-04-03 at 09:36 PM.
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On the other hand, if you're looking for a semi-scientific to pseudo-scientific explanation, much fringe science associates forms of magnetism with the supernatural. Take for instance E.V.P., certain interpretations of ghosts, a couple of takes on psychics, religious experiences, and life itself.
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Given that "technology" seems to almost always include guns, and the magnet needed to screw up gunpowder ignition is going to cause much bigger problems than messing with "technology" (we're talking about something that is pressing the electrons of every atom towards the nucleus, or stripping them away) it doesn't seem to work.
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It would probably be easier to assume that an intense magical field warps the values of some physical constants in such a way that things stop working...of course, you then have to figure out how a living being remains that way inside such a field! In short, let's just say a wizard did it.
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Well, I was thinking it wouldn't include guns. At least, I can't imagine how it could. Guns, or at least some guns, aren't terribly complicated devices (I mean to say that the principle behind them is fairly basic, not that they are easy to engineer). I can't imagine how you would interfere with guns without interfering with almost everything.
That would be easier, yes, but it would also defeat the purpose of me asking.
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Mythbusters tried to build that thing Kirk had made, and theirs didn't work at all.
Not to say it can't be done, but it's certainly not as easy as Kirk makes it look like.We are not standing on the shoulders of giants, but on very tall tower of other dwarves.
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Of course not. Kirk missed a step. It involves wine and urine (don't ask).
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I've heard something like that in the past.
The idea was that urine supposedly contains a high concentration of oxygen. If you mixed some blackpowder, urinated on it, and formed it into cakes, then the increased oxygen content would cause it to burn faster, thus more intensely.
I've never tried to verify that though.Last edited by Grinner; 2012-04-04 at 01:52 PM.
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Looking on information how to make fascinating and realistic fantasy castles, I found this series on engineering on youtube.
It's on a very basic level and rather brief on most topics, but if you don't have any previous knowledge except for what you figured out by playing with wood blocks, sticks, and mud, I find it a very easy introduction. Didn't think it's possible to understand the basic principle of buckling without an advanced degree in physics.
But all those questions like "How do towers topple without being pushed over", "How tall can you stack bricks until the lowest brick at the bottom gets crushed by the weight", or "could you make multi-story buildings with floors made from stone beams without them snapping" (to which the answer is "not in a practical way") are all really not that difficult when someone explains to you the very basics of structural engineering.We are not standing on the shoulders of giants, but on very tall tower of other dwarves.
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It's the nitrates in urine, although human urine is far from the best source. Pig urine is much better, and guano is even better, which is the reason why the bird guano cliffs in Chile were considered one of the most important MILITARY resources in the world during WWI. Being cut off from this source was the single reason Germany developed artificial means of making nitrates in bulk.
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How do you keep a fool busy? Turn upside down for answer.
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I've discovered that all animals with sensitive electrolocation live in water? Is this because water conducts electricity more efficiently or is there something else going on? Or is it just chance playing me for a fool?
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